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		<title>By: Rakhee</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/539#comment-21789</link>
		<dc:creator>Rakhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 14:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ - don&#039;t get me started on Tourism again. It&#039;s a waste of time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ &#8211; don&#8217;t get me started on Tourism again. It&#8217;s a waste of time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 14:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not the only one who thinks that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not the only one who thinks that.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/539#comment-21786</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 14:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sunny. I&#039;m going to read Londonstani - the jury&#039;s still out on whether I can be bothered with Tourism as interviews by Dhaliwal make it seems that he has nothing interesting to say for himself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sunny. I&#8217;m going to read Londonstani &#8211; the jury&#8217;s still out on whether I can be bothered with Tourism as interviews by Dhaliwal make it seems that he has nothing interesting to say for himself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 13:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ - see this thread. The review is posted in the comments below:
http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/422</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ &#8211; see this thread. The review is posted in the comments below:<br />
<a href="http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/422" rel="nofollow">http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/422</a></p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 13:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can I find the review of Londonstani that eveyrone&#039;s talking about?

Also the author is talking at the Royal Festival Hall tomorrow:

http://www.rfh.org.uk/main/events/114778.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where can I find the review of Londonstani that eveyrone&#8217;s talking about?</p>
<p>Also the author is talking at the Royal Festival Hall tomorrow:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rfh.org.uk/main/events/114778.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rfh.org.uk/main/events/114778.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 13:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three men convicted of the murder of Isaiah Young Sam in the Lozells riots

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4992966.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three men convicted of the murder of Isaiah Young Sam in the Lozells riots</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4992966.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4992966.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 12:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is good politics.&quot;
The distance between opposition and governemnt benches in the House of Commons  is just enough to make someone have to stop and think between drawing their sword and killing an opponent. Didn&#039;t the Somali parliament have to close recently after MPs started shooting at each other?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is good politics.&#8221;<br />
The distance between opposition and governemnt benches in the House of Commons  is just enough to make someone have to stop and think between drawing their sword and killing an opponent. Didn&#8217;t the Somali parliament have to close recently after MPs started shooting at each other?</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/539#comment-21714</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 09:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Vikrant,

Do you know any yo Mama jokes?
&lt;/i&gt;
Jo Mama is so fat that in her burkha she looks like an overgrown bat!

Oksie i gotta head for school, got some important exams today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Vikrant,</p>
<p>Do you know any yo Mama jokes?<br />
</i><br />
Jo Mama is so fat that in her burkha she looks like an overgrown bat!</p>
<p>Oksie i gotta head for school, got some important exams today.</p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/539#comment-21638</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 20:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jay. Obviously another productive Sunday on my part ;)

Anyway, it&#039;s 9pm, and on a Sunday that means only one thing. Time to check out Kiefer Sutherland doing his thing on Sky One.

Later, y&#039;all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jay. Obviously another productive Sunday on my part <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s 9pm, and on a Sunday that means only one thing. Time to check out Kiefer Sutherland doing his thing on Sky One.</p>
<p>Later, y&#8217;all.</p>
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		<title>By: Rakhee</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/539#comment-21637</link>
		<dc:creator>Rakhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 19:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jay. 

Selena, well put! I tried not to be influenced by his background when reading it but it was that bad that I have to agree with your inference to Liz Jones.

The thing about Tourism is that it didn&#039;t even teach me anything new - there was nothing enlightening about it. Nothing that made me laugh out loud or have any emotional reaction. I cringed at some of the filth in it and thought &#039;what are you trying to prove?&#039;.

Another book I do really want to read is Blood and Sand - story of a journalist who was shot 6 times in the Middle East by al-Qaeda gunmen and is now a paraplegic. 
http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/biography/story/0,,1779676,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jay. </p>
<p>Selena, well put! I tried not to be influenced by his background when reading it but it was that bad that I have to agree with your inference to Liz Jones.</p>
<p>The thing about Tourism is that it didn&#8217;t even teach me anything new &#8211; there was nothing enlightening about it. Nothing that made me laugh out loud or have any emotional reaction. I cringed at some of the filth in it and thought &#8216;what are you trying to prove?&#8217;.</p>
<p>Another book I do really want to read is Blood and Sand &#8211; story of a journalist who was shot 6 times in the Middle East by al-Qaeda gunmen and is now a paraplegic.<br />
<a href="http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/biography/story/0,,1779676,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/biography/story/0,,1779676,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 19:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha

Good one Jai. That one is the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha</p>
<p>Good one Jai. That one is the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/539#comment-21635</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 19:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, last one, I promise.....

Yo mamma&#039;s so fat, she&#039;d qualify as all 4 wives in Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, last one, I promise&#8230;..</p>
<p>Yo mamma&#8217;s so fat, she&#8217;d qualify as all 4 wives in Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Selena</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/539#comment-21633</link>
		<dc:creator>Selena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 19:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rakhee

Nirpal Singh Dhaliwal&#039;s review of Londonstani was so obviously based out of malice and an attempt to cast himself as the only &#039;real&#039; young writer from Southall. He also disses Zadie Smith and any other black or Asian writer who doesnt match up to him as the messiah and saviour of modern British literature, self proclaimed bad boy. Well, as bad and real as you can be married to the most highly paid and famous Bridget Jones style columnist in Fleet Street and chick lit author Liz Jones, with all the media and publishing contacts you get. But we should ignore that for now, because Nirpal is the literary bad boy telling the raw truth etc etc etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rakhee</p>
<p>Nirpal Singh Dhaliwal&#8217;s review of Londonstani was so obviously based out of malice and an attempt to cast himself as the only &#8216;real&#8217; young writer from Southall. He also disses Zadie Smith and any other black or Asian writer who doesnt match up to him as the messiah and saviour of modern British literature, self proclaimed bad boy. Well, as bad and real as you can be married to the most highly paid and famous Bridget Jones style columnist in Fleet Street and chick lit author Liz Jones, with all the media and publishing contacts you get. But we should ignore that for now, because Nirpal is the literary bad boy telling the raw truth etc etc etc</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/539#comment-21632</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 19:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rakhee

Londonstani isn&#039;t mindblowing, and the rudeboy patois is annoying sometimes. But it has some good things in it and it&#039;s certainly not as bad as Dhaliwal claimed it is. I agree with you about Nirpal he seems to be trying too hard to make out that he is some kind of working class desi tough guy writer telling raw truths about &#039;reality&#039; and the baddest Asian/black writer on the block. I will read it and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rakhee</p>
<p>Londonstani isn&#8217;t mindblowing, and the rudeboy patois is annoying sometimes. But it has some good things in it and it&#8217;s certainly not as bad as Dhaliwal claimed it is. I agree with you about Nirpal he seems to be trying too hard to make out that he is some kind of working class desi tough guy writer telling raw truths about &#8216;reality&#8217; and the baddest Asian/black writer on the block. I will read it and see.</p>
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		<title>By: Rakhee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rakhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 19:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay - I just finished reading Tourism and have to say it did not impress me in the slightest. Have been following Dhaliwal&#039;s articles in the Standard and combined with this book, he comes across as someone who is a. confused with his own identity b. trying too hard and c. disillusioned in thinking he&#039;s cool when he&#039;s clearly not. Maybe I&#039;m being being harsh but Tourism does not even deserve a place on my bookshelf. 

Am about to read Londonstani though, and looking forward to it.

2 articles worth a read in today&#039;s Observer:

Ned Temko on the progress Oldham has made since 2001 riots: http://www.guardian.co.uk/farright/story/0,,1779903,00.html
and &#039;sex for asylum&#039; - disturbing story of immigration official asking for sex from an African rape victim http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,1779772,00.html

ps Vikrant, you&#039;re right about the kheer ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay &#8211; I just finished reading Tourism and have to say it did not impress me in the slightest. Have been following Dhaliwal&#8217;s articles in the Standard and combined with this book, he comes across as someone who is a. confused with his own identity b. trying too hard and c. disillusioned in thinking he&#8217;s cool when he&#8217;s clearly not. Maybe I&#8217;m being being harsh but Tourism does not even deserve a place on my bookshelf. </p>
<p>Am about to read Londonstani though, and looking forward to it.</p>
<p>2 articles worth a read in today&#8217;s Observer:</p>
<p>Ned Temko on the progress Oldham has made since 2001 riots: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/farright/story/0,,1779903,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/farright/story/0,,1779903,00.html</a><br />
and &#8216;sex for asylum&#8217; &#8211; disturbing story of immigration official asking for sex from an African rape victim <a href="http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,1779772,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,1779772,00.html</a></p>
<p>ps Vikrant, you&#8217;re right about the kheer <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Browne</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/539#comment-21621</link>
		<dc:creator>John Browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 16:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...New Scientist not bad either.
TEN page article on time machines &quot;At last, an idea we can test&quot;....

And for religious people &quot;did chimps and humans once merge&quot;?  (I&#039;m sure that explains a few things LOL).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;New Scientist not bad either.<br />
TEN page article on time machines &#8220;At last, an idea we can test&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>And for religious people &#8220;did chimps and humans once merge&#8221;?  (I&#8217;m sure that explains a few things LOL).</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: John Browne</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 15:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recommend people buy this weeks &quot;Big Issue&quot;

Some good revues and articles:

1. Primal Urges
&quot;The scream are back, poised for a summer of straight-up rock&#039;n&#039;roll.

2. Camp It Up
Which Festival suits your needs. Our essential guide will help you (they appear to like Isle Of White festival).

3. A Small Affair
There are some smaller, perfectly formed events away from the mainstream. We check them out.

4. Film Revue: &quot;The King&quot;
A dark slice of Southern Gothic starring Gael Garcia Bernal that&#039;s raising hell amongst born-again Christians and film critics alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend people buy this weeks &#8220;Big Issue&#8221;</p>
<p>Some good revues and articles:</p>
<p>1. Primal Urges<br />
&#8220;The scream are back, poised for a summer of straight-up rock&#8217;n'roll.</p>
<p>2. Camp It Up<br />
Which Festival suits your needs. Our essential guide will help you (they appear to like Isle Of White festival).</p>
<p>3. A Small Affair<br />
There are some smaller, perfectly formed events away from the mainstream. We check them out.</p>
<p>4. Film Revue: &#8220;The King&#8221;<br />
A dark slice of Southern Gothic starring Gael Garcia Bernal that&#8217;s raising hell amongst born-again Christians and film critics alike.</p>
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		<title>By: David T</title>
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		<dc:creator>David T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 15:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It used to be said that dentists top the list of &#039;jobs done by people who committed suicide&quot; 

This is the truth:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010420.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It used to be said that dentists top the list of &#8216;jobs done by people who committed suicide&#8221; </p>
<p>This is the truth:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010420.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010420.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 14:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cow shelter, haha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cow shelter, haha!</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
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		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 14:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do hope that lurking PP dentists will now be drawn into the fray and thus blow their cover. The enemy needs to be identified!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do hope that lurking PP dentists will now be drawn into the fray and thus blow their cover. The enemy needs to be identified!</p>
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