A BNP march in my honour


by Sunny
25th September, 2005 at 3:39 pm    

Well this has never happened before – a BNP march just in my honour. The story I posted last week about Pakistani guys targetting white girls in Keighley has been picked up by them, and now they’re planning a march on 5th November.

Writing about the programme on the website Asians in Media, Sunny Hundal revealed that the police unit to investigate these disgusting racist crimes was closed down as soon as the media spotlight cast on the issue by last year’s Channel 4 ‘Edge of the City’ programme (that Chief Constable Cramphorn had postponed until after the European Elections, lest it benefit the BNP) had shifted away. He went on to describe the way in which “many, including the local community leaders (useless themselves in this), say the police are too afraid to tackle the issue – too politically correct and unwilling to disturb racial and religious sensibilities…. This is political correctness gone mad.”

Well, I didn’t exactly say that but the BNP has never let facts get in the way of a good story. In case you are confused, I also published the story on my higher-profile mag Asians in Media.

No doubt some will accuse me of stoking racism and providing the BNP some fuel, but I should point out they still hate me for constantly making fun of them and comparing them to Hizb ut-Tahrir. I still think I was right in raising the issue, like the poor Ann Cryer, and maybe we’ll find out why the police is doing nothing in West Yorkshire.


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  1. Opinionated Voice

    [...] Apparently, the BNP and their advocates are currently crying because the Government banned their protest. Previously reported at Pickled Politics, the BNP were to march against men targeting young white girls in Yorkshire for group sex and prostitution, which many of the perpetrators were reported to be British born Pakistani men. I’m all for protesting against child molesters, but not when its instigated by the likes of the racist BNP that are evidently prepared to misuse the suffering of the victims to further their own agenda (How sad are they?). Tony Blair obviously agrees with me, not that we’d agree on much else! [...]




  1. Rohin — on 25th September, 2005 at 3:47 pm  

    Stardom at last eh Sunny? Maybe they’ll have banners with your face on. No no – effigies! You KNOW you’ve made it in life when people make effigies of you.

    I didn’t comment on the Pakistani grooming post (that makes it sound like it was about hairdressers) because I didn’t know what to say. I found it a very difficult story to take on board for several reasons. I know you weren’t trying to stoke any fires or provide anyone with ammo, but it’s hard to avoid sounding like you’ve either gone on the defensive or you’re an Uncle Tom.

  2. inders — on 25th September, 2005 at 3:51 pm  

    Whats uncle tom about completely being against the expliotation of young girls ?

  3. Sunny — on 25th September, 2005 at 3:56 pm  

    The problem, as I saw it, was that by sweeping it under the carpet we help increase segregation within those communities because many may accuse all Pakistani boys of such activities.
    It was also to highlight the uselessness of the police and ‘community leaders’.

    But most of all it was about the abused young girls. I don’t care what their race is, and I don’t care about being ‘sensitive’ on issues when young lives are at stake… assuming there is a problem here that is being swept under the carpet.

  4. Sunny — on 25th September, 2005 at 3:58 pm  

    But lol – burning effigies are the way to go.

    I’m not sure who’s gonna burn my effigies though, the BNP or those who will inevitably accuse me of stoking fires of racism.

  5. David T — on 25th September, 2005 at 5:13 pm  

    Bastards!

    Well I’m sympathetic – but we all know that the BNP has spent the last 10 years trying to make itself media friendly, and hide its true racist face. Part of its strategy has been to form alliances with ethnic minority groups, including the madder fringe of Sikh politics. And now they’ve quoted you.

    But nobody is fooled by this. Its the equivalent of the racists who say “Some of my best friends are asians”. They’re name checking you for precisely the same cynical reason. You’re not to blame.

    And comfort yourself with this thought: at least the Guardian isn’t writing pieces which suggest that the BNP have some progressive ideas underneath it all, and although somewhat misguided, people who we ought to be listening to and learning from…

    Shall we have a counter demonstration then?

  6. Rohin — on 25th September, 2005 at 5:28 pm  

    Inders, of course there’s nothing Uncle Tom about criticising this disgusting behaviour. If that’s how it sounded, it’s just a reflection of my unclear English.

    What I meant is as an Asian criticising another Asian, there will always be people such as the BNP who will latch onto your words – somehow if one of their own says it, then we all can say what we like.

    I’m uncomfortable with the race slant that’s been emphasised in this story. These men are nothing to do with me, they live hundreds of miles away and the media has profiled them as Pakistani most of the time – so I could feel pleased that Indians aren’t being tarred with the same brush. But then again what if they were British Indian men – would they be referred to as Indian gangs? I don’t think so, then they’d be Asian gangs. If they were black men – I don’t think their race would have come into it at all.

    I am not for a minute defending their actions. It just sits a bit funny with me that their race is so important – as demonstrated by the BNP’s eagerness to use it as ammo. The police dragging their feet also angers me.

  7. Ali-gator — on 25th September, 2005 at 6:24 pm  

    Durrrrrr !

    Sunny brought it on to himself ! – He’s to balme !
    Lets hope no rioting takes place . .

    He knows BNP read “Asians In Media” from his past encounters, they are probably on his mailing list. Why do you sound so surprised?

    Erm and yes it will supplement the right-wing press and help fuel this continuing saga. . You can just imagine mcb being brought into explain why muslims are raping inncocent photogenic white girls.

    And as for the “poor” Ann Cryer ohh please that bitch need to be kicked out as soon as possible. I have a lot of pity for her constituents who get mud slinged at them every time by her, but they have no one else to turn to and she gets voted back in. It’s like letting someone amputate you, just so you can live.

  8. Old Pickler — on 25th September, 2005 at 6:30 pm  

    Ann Cryer is fantastic. She stood up against forced marriages and ‘arranged’ marriages with uneducated cousins from ‘back home’, and general oppression of girls and women withing the Muslim community. Good for her.

  9. Eric — on 25th September, 2005 at 6:58 pm  

    Sunny,

    Don’t let the racist fascist bastards grind you down, they are responsible for their actions – not you.

  10. Siddhartha — on 25th September, 2005 at 8:50 pm  

    The BNP have used the opinion of fundamentalist Sikh opinion to foment a lot of their anti-Muslim copy for some time now. Given that this sentiment does exist in the Sikh community, its certainly not ‘active mainstream’, if you know what I mean.

    At first I was impressed with the BNP’s subtelty in being able to tap into this sentiment for their own gains. But in a BBC interview [it was with Gavin Estler (sic)], Nick Griffin spoke hysterically of “Muslims raping women and the illegitimate children resulting from rapes would grow up to Muslims in India”. It was unhinged ranting. Worse, it was just plain wrong. He kvetched about Pakistanis raping Bangladeshi women in the 50s! Thats when the penny dropped for me that these people are, ultimately, tossers.

    Glad to hear you got an exposé and a bad tempered march out of it. Two birds with one stone, well done!

  11. Sunny — on 25th September, 2005 at 10:21 pm  

    I like Ann Cryer too, she has done more to help young Muslims in that area than anyone else. That is why she was re-relected with a good majority and Nick Griffin got a kicking in the general election.

  12. Eric — on 25th September, 2005 at 11:00 pm  

    “Muslims raping women and the illegitimate children resulting from rapes would grow up to Muslims in India”.

    How?!

    It’s good to know that the fascists we have are plain stupid, compared to the Third Reich’s scientists and intellects.

  13. Old Pickler — on 25th September, 2005 at 11:37 pm  

    Nick Griffin got a kicking in the general election.

    Ooooch! Bet that hurt!

  14. Brett Lock — on 26th September, 2005 at 12:03 am  

    “Don’t let the racist fascist bastards grind you down, they are responsible for their actions – not you. ”

    Just so!

  15. Sunny — on 26th September, 2005 at 12:09 am  

    Oh no, they’re not grinding me down at all :D

    I love making fun of the BNP and sniping at them. Have done it plenty of times before too.

  16. Eric — on 26th September, 2005 at 12:19 am  

    Look at the doctrinal problems they have with listening to Dolly Parton.

  17. jamal — on 26th September, 2005 at 1:09 am  

    LOL.

    This actually shows how shallow they are. You gave fair views on a subject that should be commented on, regardless of the consequences. Im not surprised the BNP have taken it out of context, I have spoken with them before and all they do is twist anything you say, and then rant on about total rubbish.

    At the end of the day, you are not the one that recommends that all non-white people leave the UK, they are. Same as your not the one thats been arrested for race hate crimes, or mixes with those that have!

  18. Kulvinder — on 26th September, 2005 at 2:50 am  

    Apparently, its the thought that counts.

    Im just saying…

  19. douglas — on 26th September, 2005 at 6:38 am  

    I’m not too good on this cultural reference stuff, But it seems to me that any Nazi who claims that the victims of their ignorant belief systems are in anyway guilty of perpetrating their ridiculous beliefs is a complete and utter tosser. IMVHO, Nazi = bald, stupid, guy.

    Please keep posting things that are critical of the Asian community, and the wider community too. Where else do you hear stuff like this?

    Err, nowhere.

    Respect.

    douglas

  20. David T — on 26th September, 2005 at 8:54 am  

    This does go to show – not that you should never engage with fascist parties – but how firm you need to be in dealing with them.

    In their quest for respectability, they’ll always try to use your words to bolster their own limited credibility.

    But that also gives you an opportunity to hit back. If they want to go round claiming that you’re supporting what they’re doing, or that you’re somehow allies, that gives you a further opportunity to expose their tactics.

  21. aimblog — on 26th September, 2005 at 12:08 pm  

    The BNP are reading AIM now? Have you sent them an email suggesting that they subscribe to the newsletter?

    If it weren’t for Asians, you wouldn’t have taxi drivers, corner shops, indian takeaways and an ability to mis quote and falsely represent. Hurrah!

  22. edward — on 26th September, 2005 at 12:22 pm  

    As I said in the relevant post on Barfi:-

    Ok – two things arising from the link.

    1. What is Jim Lethwaite a doctorate of?

    2. Ged Dodds’ song, White Roses, is sung in a Perry Como style? Seriously? I’ve got to listen to that. I’d love to hear racist crap being spewed out to the tune of Magic Moments.

  23. leon — on 26th September, 2005 at 12:29 pm  

    “This does go to show – not that you should never engage with fascist parties – but how firm you need to be in dealing with them.”

    Indeed.

    “If it weren’t for Asians, you wouldn’t have taxi drivers, corner shops, indian takeaways and an ability to mis quote and falsely represent.”

    Roughly 26% of Doctors in the NHS are Asians and given the state that’s in we’d be fucked without them.

  24. Don — on 26th September, 2005 at 5:30 pm  

    ’1. What is Jim Lethwaite a doctorate of?’

    This from; http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/leedsbradford/2005/05/311250.html

    Dr James Lewthwaite, 52, the cocksure BNP councillor for the Wyke ward, used to run publishing company Shelf Books, specialising in Nazi literature.
    The BNP website claims in large letters on its home page: “We are not racists, Nazis or thugs.”

    But Shelf Books says on its website that it concentrates on the battles of World War Two from the German perspective, titles including Nordic Warriors, Breaking the Chains, and SS-Flak.

    Nordic Warriors profiles the “dedicated fighters for Hitler’s New European Order, whose last days were spent battling to defend the Fuhrer”.

    Also on offer are full-sized polyester Nazi flags emblazoned with a swastika. “Suitable for flying, wall drapes and as a stunning backdrop to your collection,” says its website.

    Other products for sale include hand painted porcelain statues of Adolf Hitler giving a Nazi salute. “All of these items are made in England by masters of their craft,” advises the website.

    Dr Lewthwaite, who trained as an archaeologist at Caius College Cambridge, gained a first degree, a master’s degree and a PhD at the prestige university. Between November 1983 and October 1984 he was a research assistant in the Department of Archaeological Sciences at Bradford University.

  25. Kulvinder — on 27th September, 2005 at 6:38 am  

    he did a degree, a masters and a phd in digging stuff up???!?

  26. David T — on 27th September, 2005 at 2:14 pm  

    They’re not idiots.

    Just fools.

  27. Louis Hale — on 1st October, 2005 at 1:09 pm  

    The BNP have refrained from marches since the days of John Tyndall so Sunny is obviously talking rubbish. The BNP don’t need to march to make the public aware of the problems in Keighley. 4000+ votes for Nick Griffin in the General Election shows that the people are only too aware and are looking to the BNP as a viable alternative to the ineffective Labour MP, Anne Cryer.

  28. Essex Druid — on 2nd November, 2005 at 1:28 am  

    Don’t come at me with the nazi tag, my grandfather manned the searchlights for the gunners in the battle of Britain so thank him, and not me for your benefits cheque.

  29. Bertie — on 18th November, 2005 at 10:47 am  

    Hardly a new story, the BNP have been using it for well over a year. All your story did was allow the BNP to quote an ‘asian news’ source, which always delights them.

    The issue was mentioned and argued over a lot on ilkleyrocks during the election. Judging from the keighley newsboards (http://keighley.proboards37.com/index.cgi) it’s been a very hot issue all year.

    As to ‘poor Ann Cryer’, well, she’s played with fire for years, stoking racist sentiment against British Asians to bolster votes in true-blue Ilkley and amongst Keighley whites, and the BNP showing is the result.

    The real issue with the story is not why it’s swept under the carpet but why white gangsters doing exactly the same get no coverage at all. In Keighley, some asian gangs run drugs and girls. WHat a surprise! ELsewhere, whites do. The latter don’t get any coverage for ‘grooming’. Fear of the brown male perhaps?

  30. Mikhail — on 27th November, 2005 at 11:20 pm  

    Yeah right!!! How many of our Russian girls do you think end up in prostitution in Russia and abroad by Russian men?? Very few, I can tell you. Almost all the crime groups consist of Azeri, Chechens and Jews and they are responsible for traffucking our girls like animals. Why? It is easy money making and they have tight communitues with few relations to others. Let’s face it, why is the overrepresenatation of minorities such a taboo for ‘leftish’ people? The link between crime groups of Sicilians and Colombians is widely discussed but when it is about Muslims and Jews in crime, and their vision about women from other communities, many people try to label you as right wing. So be it, the link is much too strong to deny, Israel has 30.000-50.000 Russian women tricked into prostitution and this of course not racism but call a Jew Yid is the end of the world. This disgusting leftish mentality is the true cause of extreme right growth and the contempt of Muslims and Jews for Europeans. I mean, who is stupid enough to defend terrible criminal acts against your own women for not upsetting ‘community relations”? Your are dealing with human beings and you have to defend the people who truly deserve this, girls, children and disabled for instance. If every does this then we will true civilazation for all the people, regardless of ethnicity or religion because we are human beings in the first place.

  31. John Kent — on 17th January, 2006 at 3:21 pm  

    Well said Mikhail!! as the saying goes, if the boot was on the other foot! The only reason why these left wing groups protest against the BNP is because they know if the BNP gets more support, then thier jobs will be in jeopardy, as the UAF is built up of mainly communist union leaders. If the UAF had any real policies and felt that strongly about them they why don’t they stand for election and see how many votes they will get!! Not many i believe. The only way these low life get people to join is by brainwashing young vunrable students, many of which are in thier first year of uni, away from home, and these cockroaches use this to thier advantage, dictiating to them that the BNP is a racist violent organisation. It’s about time these people read the policies of the BNP instead of using scare tactics on students. If anyone has attended a BNP meeting or demo, you would struggle to see these ‘Skinheads’ that are apparently running the party, this is because there are none, you will see people form all age groups and backgrounds, but most of which are the hard working British people who want nothing else but Freedom, True Democracy, Security and to get thier British Identity back!!

  32. Col. Mustafa — on 17th January, 2006 at 3:58 pm  

    “The only reason why these left wing groups protest against the BNP is because they know if the BNP gets more support, then thier jobs will be in jeopardy, as the UAF is built up of mainly communist union leaders.”

    Why does everyone in support of the groups like the BNP sound so fucking clueless?
    Is it like a job description or something, apply here if your stupid enough.
    I understand you have PHD but please leave it at the door.
    So they only protest because if they don’t they won’t have jobs.
    LMAOOOOOOO.
    Yes getting a job is so hard these days and the benefits of being a protester are just so fucking rewarding that people are actually jumping over bridges to become protesters.
    I mean at least try and come up with a valid argument ffs.
    This is why the BNP will always be a joke.

    Now let me predict the future, my name being Mustafa will obviously have a part to play in the reply from Mr Kent who will assume a whole load of bollox about islam and accuse me of raping women and underage children in an attempt to prove that he is right about the shite hes going on about.
    But maybe after writing that he might not and instead think of something else to come to the defence of the BNP.

    “If anyone has attended a BNP meeting or demo, you would struggle to see these ‘Skinheads’ that are apparently running the party, this is because there are none, you will see people form all age groups and backgrounds, but most of which are the hard working British people who want nothing else but Freedom, True Democracy, Security and to get thier British Identity back!!”

    I’d attend a BNP meeting if i knew i was invited in the first place you idiotic fuckwit.
    I might even have the same ideology as you (hehehe) but i wouldn’t be invited to come along and casually talk about it, would i????

    You want freedom and democracy, dunno about you m8 but im pretty free.
    The BNP are free enough to chat shit and get away with it, what else do they want?
    They want thier British identity back, hehehehehehe.

    What the fuck is that?
    Seriously explain.

  33. John Kent — on 17th January, 2006 at 4:11 pm  

    Hmmm. Thats the sort of reply I would of expected from someone of your calibre. So you got no facts for me, nothing of any use to share with me, just a load of foul language disagreeing with what I have said and nothing to back it up!!

    And your last comment ‘They want their British Identity back, hehehehehehe.’ just goes to show the type of people you are, nothing but violent, ignorant, braindead. Now come back when you can supply me with a good argument instead of this drivel!!

  34. Col. Mustafa — on 17th January, 2006 at 4:25 pm  

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Your too dumb to get anything anyway, which is why i resort to insults which did include questions but like the typical BNP member you are, you just ignore.

    “”Why does everyone in support of the groups like the BNP sound so fucking clueless?”"

    You didn’t answer my question now did you?
    Why are you so clueless?

    “I might even have the same ideology as you (hehehe) but i wouldn’t be invited to come along and casually talk about it, would i????”

    Ive already asked, so would i?
    Me being the typical british muslim male that has certain ideologies.

    And again lets see if you can actually answer anything, but what is the true british identity?

    Bear in mind that im extremely bored, which is why im still here.

  35. Col. Mustafa — on 17th January, 2006 at 4:31 pm  

    “And your last comment ‘They want their British Identity back, hehehehehehe.’ just goes to show the type of people you are, nothing but violent, ignorant, braindead. Now come back when you can supply me with a good argument instead of this drivel!!”

    Thats just classic, i ask what the British identity is, and you call me and my type of people (hehehehe) violent, ignorant and braindead.
    LMAOOOOO.

    Your a funny bastard, but sadly those comments you made kind of apply more to you judging by how you responded there.

  36. John Kent — on 17th January, 2006 at 5:40 pm  

    Do you have to use such language, or is that how you talk to people that question your faith??

    I’m not to answer your first question, because I tell you this I know a hell of a lot more than you will ever do!! Judging on how you have to use offensive language to get your point across it seems you are not all that intelligent, perhaps didn’t pay attention in school, so had to use language like this to get attention from others.

    You second question is not too good either, but i’m sure if you would like to attend a BNP meeting they would be happy to make you welcome, it would be interesting to hear you point of view. I would like to visit a mosque one day a hear about your views, maybe I’d need a translator. I don’t think i would be welcome though, would i?

    Your third question, Britain is a christian country with traditional christian traditions. This needs to be retained for the sake of our children and our childrens children. I would say some one with true british identity is someone who has these values, who works hard, is patriotic and has repect for himself and his fellow men.

    I don’t see you as a Britain, with that attitude it just goes to show you have no respect for the place you live, it sad to say this is the attitude of most of the immigrants in this country.

    If islam is the kind loving religion everyone talks about it, why are the people that follow it so god damn ignorant!!

  37. Vikrant — on 17th January, 2006 at 6:03 pm  

    Britain is a christian country with traditional christian traditions. This needs to be retained for the sake of our children and our childrens children. I would say some one with true british identity is someone who has these values, who works hard, is patriotic and has repect for himself and his fellow men.

    Christianity has been around in Britain for only 1500 years. Oh yea over centuries Christian traditions have become infused with British identity… i for one dont have any qualms about having ‘Jerusalem’ for an anthem….BUT…BNP aint about religion ITS ABOUT SKIN COLOUR… PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Nick Griffin for example would prefer Yovonne Ridley a white Muslim to a Black Christian.

    So 100000 brownies are good enough to die for empire, in ww2 but not good enough to live in UK eh?
    UK is what it is because of the colonies and the enormous wealth we drained from them. We (brownies) have every right for a good life as much as you.

  38. Col. Mustafa — on 17th January, 2006 at 6:50 pm  

    I love the way Kent is actually standing up for the shite that BNP come out with.
    He aint giving up is he.

    I wouldn’t be invited to a BNP meeting, lets get real.
    But if you wanted to visit a mosque out of interest, noone would mind, infact i could arrange it for you.
    Why are you comparing me visiting a BNP meeting to a mosque, unless what you guys do at this meeting is just pray.

    Your assuming i even goto a mosque and also assuming that every muslim gives a shit about their religion.
    You assume so much that i wonder whether you know anything.
    Its basically what the BNP is built on, assumptions.

    “Your third question, Britain is a christian country with traditional christian traditions. This needs to be retained for the sake of our children and our childrens children.”

    Well retain it then, noones stopping you from being more christian are they?
    You wanna be more religious then be it, whats that gotta do with me?

    But as Viks already said its not about that, its just the colour.

    “I would say some one with true british identity is someone who has these values, who works hard, is patriotic and has repect for himself and his fellow men.”

    So all the people in this country that aren’t christian or BRITISH so to speak aren’t working hard to feed thier families, they don’t have respect for themselves when they stand up for what they believe in.
    Is that your saying, that you can only be British if you have these values?
    Cos i tell you straight up that not even half the population of this country go by those rules regardless of religion, colour or race.

    So again what are you going on about, and foremost who are going on about?
    Assumptions again.
    Is anything based on fact with you?

    All is answered here though.

    “I don’t see you as a Britain, with that attitude it just goes to show you have no respect for the place you live, it sad to say this is the attitude of most of the immigrants in this country.

    If islam is the kind loving religion everyone talks about it, why are the people that follow it so god damn ignorant!!”

    Im an immigrant now, again assuming.
    You don’t see me as a Briton, but who are you to see anyone as a Briton?
    I didn’t know i needed recognition to just live my life.
    Thankyou for informing me, when can i expect the form to fill in?
    Again islam gets roped into it, thats all it is with you lot (BNP that is).
    Why do you keep assuming that my life revolves around islam?
    Are you not capable of seeing anything else, did the brainwashing really mess you up that bad?
    Islam this, islam that, bloody hell.

    I haven’t brought up islam once, i just wanted to see how many times you brought it up.
    However in my first post i did predict the future about you bringing up my religion into play just because of my name.
    Guess i was right, but your so thick you carried on anyway.
    Well that was fun.
    Works over so im outta here.

  39. Col. Mustafa — on 17th January, 2006 at 6:57 pm  

    Mr Kent, try reading some of the other topics and articles that are discussed and debated here on a daily basis; maybe your mind might open up abit.
    You actually had to come back to a very old article just to find someone as thick as you so you could relate to them.

    But then again if you did express those retarded backward views on some of the other threads you’d just get laughed out.
    And just to mention not everyone here is a muslim nor brown, plenty of white christians here too.

  40. Don — on 17th January, 2006 at 7:16 pm  

    And atheists, colonel, don’t forget us bloody atheists. So I guess I don’t fit Kent’s criteria either.

  41. Siddharth — on 17th January, 2006 at 8:12 pm  

    Why come this thread suddenly come alive? Hasn’t got something to do with has it? Rarseklart!

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