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    Immigrants don’t jump the housing queue


    by Rumbold on 7th July, 2009 at 9:16 am    

    The Equality and Human Rights Commission has confirmed that there is no evidence to support the idea that immigrants are getting preferential treatment when it comes to the allocation of council housing:

    “The report - based on figures from the 2007 Labour Force Survey - was carried out by the centre-left Institute for Public Policy Research think tank.

    According to the study, 64% of people who arrived in the UK within the last five years live in private rented accommodation. Just 11% of new arrivals get help with housing - almost all of them asylum seekers.

    But after five years, when many immigrants are able to get residency and become entitled to government help, one in six live in social housing - exactly the same proportion as those who were born in Britain.”

    I hope that this has an impact, as it is being widely reported.



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    1. thelocalgovernmentofficer — on 7th July, 2009 at 9:28 am  

      I think the notion of a ‘queue’ causes a lot of problems.

      If 11% of new arrivals are going straight into social housing, then they are ‘jumping the queue’. They might really really need to jump the queue because there’s no way they can live anywhere else as they don’t have the right to work, but they are still newly arrived at the queue, and going to the front of it.

      Similarly someone in situation x who has been in the country for five years is ‘jumping the queue’ if they get housed when someone who is in situation marginally-better-than-x who has been on the waiting list ofr six years doesn’t.

      The reason that sounds strange is that the housing queue isn’t a queue at all in the sense most (well, alright, some) people understand say a Tesco queue - it’s more of a throng from among whom the cashier occasionally picks someone to get served who looks like they have lots of shopping and seems to be getting tired.

      For as long as we say “it’s a queue”, then the complaint “but I was here first” will resonate, however much research the IPPR and CEHR do.

    2. Jennifer Smith — on 7th July, 2009 at 9:44 am  

      If they arrive with kids in tow, they get social housing and all the benefits the UK can offer.

      Whether the figures are correct or not, the perception of people living in housing estates will not be affected by this report.

      Young english couples with children who have been on the list for years (I know of three) watch as the housing around them in their home towns get filled with immigrants and they are told they don’t have enough points.

      What are you going to do to convince them? People look at these reports and assume they are a lie without evening reading them. Everyone knows this government are a bunch of compulsive liars, so why believe this report?

      It will be interesting to see what MigrationwatchUK says about it.

    3. Leon — on 7th July, 2009 at 9:59 am  

      The term jumping the queue is a nonsense, housing is allocated on need (there’s a point system in place), you can’t ‘jump it’, you get housing because you deserve it based on your circumstance.

      Well, at least that’s the theory, it may not be perfect (what is?) but the real issue here is the policy of selling off housing stock thus increasing the waiting list and sharpening the views of those who aren’t as vulnerable.

    4. Immigrants don’t jump the housing queue | Free Political Forum — on 7th July, 2009 at 10:14 am  

      [...] Original post by Rumbold [...]

    5. cjcjc — on 7th July, 2009 at 10:16 am  

      Whether or not you call it a “queue”, social housing going to “new arrivals” is by definition housing which is not going to “natives”.

      It’s good that the EHRC has busted the myth that immigrants benefit disproportionately, but the above still stands.

    6. Jennifer Smith — on 7th July, 2009 at 10:31 am  

      Equality and Human Rights Commission is a Government Quango!

      The independent research, which was undertaken for the Commission by the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR), found that social housing policies are targeting those in most need including the homeless, the elderly and families with children.

      Public Policy Research (IPPR) is another quango funded by The Department for International Development (another quango), Amnesty International (fake charity) and the Economic and Social Research Council (another quango), amongst others!

      And you expect us to believe these figures? Dream on, we are not all as stupid as the government would like us to be, sorry!

    7. Cyburn — on 7th July, 2009 at 10:45 am  

      The DM and BNP will say this is all lies as usual.

    8. Carmenego — on 7th July, 2009 at 10:45 am  

      Haha! “Amnesty international (fake charity)”

      Thanks Jen, I haven’t laughed that much since, like, yesterday.

      Hmmm… Migrationwatch, the gold standard of objective statistical analysis?

    9. Miriam Binder — on 7th July, 2009 at 10:46 am  

      Isn’t it telling how predictable the responses to the findings are. None so deaf as those who will not hear.

    10. Rob — on 7th July, 2009 at 10:49 am  

      But,

      you do get extra points towards a council house if you belong to an ethnic minority!

      Also, I think you will find that immigrants tend to congregate heavily in specific areas. Try telling a white person in Bethnal Green that only 11% of houses are going to immigrants!

      Lies. Damn lies. And statistics!

    11. persephone — on 7th July, 2009 at 10:54 am  

      The BNP say they cannot answers the PP questions because the statistics are not available. But when statistics do become available they are in denial of the statistics.

      Most people in denial normally go to a shrink to resolve their issues.

    12. persephone — on 7th July, 2009 at 11:09 am  

      ” Try telling a white person in Bethnal Green that only 11% of houses are going to immigrants!
      Lies. Damn lies. And statistics!”

      The 11% is a national figure. This argument can also be applied the other way.

      No doubt there are more regions where that figure is also substantially lower than 11%. For example try telling that to a person who lives in Hampshire, Kent, Wales (outside of Cardiff), remote expanses of Scotland & numerous other areas where people would equally scoff at the 11% being too high.

    13. munir — on 7th July, 2009 at 12:12 pm  

      Rob
      “Also, I think you will find that immigrants tend to congregate heavily in specific areas. Try telling a white person in Bethnal Green that only 11% of houses are going to immigrants! ”

      Presumably the white person you had in mind is a bigot who doesnt believe people of Bangladeshi origin can ever be British even if they were born here

      I dont know much about this issue but what do you do if a family of 4 needs housing and they arent indigenous? Would you put a single indegenous person in a 4 bedroom house and house them in a one bedroom house, simply because they are indigenous?

    14. Phil — on 7th July, 2009 at 12:14 pm  

      Going by muy own canteen, it produces disbelief and anger as most of us have experience that they damn well ARE jumping the queue.
      When I saw that lesbian representing the quango responsible for this utter tripe, spouting this crap on BBC news this morning it all made sense.
      More politically correct “invented just that morning” lies.

    15. Phil — on 7th July, 2009 at 12:16 pm  

      Persephone - there is an old saying “Lies, DAMN lies, and Statistics”
      You believe this crap and not your own eyes.
      The BNP are quadrupling their votes every year BECAUSE of lies like this.

    16. Phil — on 7th July, 2009 at 12:18 pm  

      Munir - why should we put up a quarter of the muslim world in Britain ? When so damn many of them refuse to acclimatize, rant about “special treatment” for their intolerant religion and then demand Shariah law - if it’s so bloody important WHY THE HELL ARE THEY HERE IN THE WEST UNINVITED ?

    17. dashenka — on 7th July, 2009 at 12:29 pm  

      munir’s answer. Phil, will be

      if you are not an islmophobe. you should pay muslims for their extra-wives, children and housing))) that’s it

      i don’t believe Rumbold’s report also
      though I am not from Britain, but government will never discover it is faults especially when it is connected with torelancy, especially now

    18. Mr. Feathers — on 7th July, 2009 at 12:42 pm  

      The problem is that the state is involved in provision of housing in the first place.

      Most immigrants, including asylum seekers, can take care of themselves, especially if state restrictions on them (put in place to appease thick BNP twats) are removed, many would be in professional jobs. Those who can’t support themselves shouldn’t be here and wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for welfarism.

      And the white underclass shouldn’t be housed by the taxpayer either. Why spend my taxes to fund their lifestyle? This entitlist mentality should be done away with, they can fend for themselves. If they took responsibility for their lives, stopped having kids they can’t provide for or encourage to get on in life they shouldn’t come crying to the government.

      “Young english couples with children who have been on the list for years” should have thought about that before they had unprotected sex, shouldn’t they? And the same goes for those who come to this country expecting benefits. But if they work and pay taxes, who gives a fuck where they come from?

    19. hantsboy — on 7th July, 2009 at 12:47 pm  

      18.

      But if they work and pay taxes, who gives a fuck where they come from?

      Yeah well. It’s about man’s age old struggle for resources you see so. We are only animals and like those around a disappearing watering hole we’ll fight. Not only other species but among ourselves.
      Got it now ?

    20. dashenka — on 7th July, 2009 at 1:10 pm  

      so work hard, earn more - to give big houses to some African unemployed single mother with 6 kids, i am impressed

    21. dashenka — on 7th July, 2009 at 1:14 pm  

      immigrants are not motivated enough to think about protected sex - why, if the government will supply them with huge houses for free. why think about work to feed your children? why?

    22. persephone — on 7th July, 2009 at 1:31 pm  

      “The BNP are quadrupling their votes every year BECAUSE of lies like this.”

      Credible evidence of this? Or is this just also damn lies

    23. Carmenego — on 7th July, 2009 at 1:38 pm  

      Are immigrants REALLY getting huge houses for free? My brother works for the local government in the social housing dept, and he said the single biggest issue he comes across is the white working class simply lying on forms to get more money.

      I had to sign on once (although I ended up getting a job before the money came through!) and a few people in my local watering hole (all Caucasian, working class men and women) were giving me tips on how to get more out of the system!

      As far as my own experience extends, it isn’t the immigrants who are a burden on the housing situation, it seems to be the homegrown, workshy, (white) minority.

      Please note that I am not implying that ALL white people are workshy, just the ones over-claiming benefits with no real cause for it.

    24. Random Guy — on 7th July, 2009 at 1:45 pm  

      Interesting post there @ 23, Carmengo.

      “Jennifer Smith” @ 2, can you post some hard evidence to back up your assertions? If not, kindly STFU and leave that kind of thing to the Daily Mail.

    25. munir — on 7th July, 2009 at 2:20 pm  

      dashenka
      “so work hard, earn more – to give big houses to some African unemployed single mother with 6 kids, i am impressed”

      when it should go to a white single mother with 4 who left school at 16 and has never worked a day in her life.

    26. Mr. Feathers — on 7th July, 2009 at 4:15 pm  

      25- Yes, it should according to BNP voters who think giving money to scroungers is ok so long as the money goes to “our own people”.

      Well, I’m white and you’re fucking not one of “my people” if you expect the state to wipe your arse rather than making your own way in life.

      Withdraw the state from housing, pare the welfare state right back to just a CBI for individuals (no child benefit: breeding is a lifestyle choice which I shouldn’t be obliged to pay for). Immigrants will only come here if they can support themselves, and good luck to them if they can. If there are immigrants who just want to claim benefits (and I’ve never met any, the only people I’ve known in this category were fucking throughbread members of the master race) they won’t be able to.

      And people of all races will only have kids they can pay for, rather than thick BNP twats knocking them out so they can game the system.

      I am sick of fuckers blaming other people for their failure in life. They even blame immigration for the fact that their kids fail at school, even if it’s in all-white schools, whereas in fact it’s due to shit parenting and a shit “culture”.

      Can anyone explain why I should pay for the upkeep of BNP voters who racially abuse my wife despite the fact that she contributes to society and they never have or will?

      Excellent post Carmengo. I’m staggered that you manage to be so patient and temperate. I myself can no longer be arsed, watching my (Zimbabwean) wife and her friends be abused was the last straw.

    27. Amrit — on 7th July, 2009 at 8:16 pm  

      Also, I think you will find that immigrants tend to congregate heavily in specific areas

      Yeah, and those ‘indigenous whites’ are EVEN WORSE! They’re only bloody 90% of the British population! They congregate EVERYWHERE!

      Mr. Feathers - You’ve already delivered the most powerful blow you possibly could to BNP supporters by having married a non-white. YOU’VE BETRAYED YOUR RACE (translation: them)! Just bear that in mind whenever your patience begins to fray. :-D

    28. Amrit — on 7th July, 2009 at 8:18 pm  

      hantsboy:

      We are only animals

      Speak for yourself, mate.

    29. Rob — on 7th July, 2009 at 9:35 pm  

      Munir,

      A person of Bangladeshi origin is NOT British, but Bangladeshi.

      If I moved to China, would that make me Chinese?

      If they cannot support themselves in my country, and have no skills that would warrant social housing, I would deport them.

      People fleeing poverty in other nations should realize that a nation is made up of people, and each of them should shoulder the blame for their nation being a third-world cesspool.

      I have no time for economic migrants that think that we should bail them out for the failures of their own countries.

    30. Gareth — on 8th July, 2009 at 7:40 am  

      Is it 100% of BNP members who can’t post links to back up their claims?

      I personally think vouchers (only acccepted with a valid ID) for food/gas/electric etc would be the easiest way to reform the benefits system (and no you can’t use them in the pub).

    31. Carmenego — on 8th July, 2009 at 9:40 am  

      Right back at you Mr Feathers.

      It does piss me off, but I strongly believe in free speech for all, not least because it highlights the iniquities of arseholes. Also, by retaining a calm facade, I limit the risk of getting wrinkles before I’m 30. I’m not gonna wrinkle on their behalf dammit!

      @Rob #29 If you moved to China, and they granted you a Chinese passport, then yes. That would make you Chinese.

      Why is ethnicity such a big deal to some people? Is it the same for hair colour, or height, or left-handedness?

      @Gareth #31 It feels like 100%, but those few that do tend to cherry pick biased/incomplete statistics.

    32. Mr. Feathers — on 8th July, 2009 at 10:41 am  

      Thanks for feedback- I was afraid I seemed too hard on BNP supporters & welfare dependent. I dislike them but I don’t blame them personally, I blame a system that discourages individual effort and responsibility and encourages, not only dependence, but this hateful mentality of there being some kind of war on for who can get most out of the state.

      Re: Amrit’s point, I don’t plan on having kids, so maybe the BNP will view me as just about acceptable. Having said that, I’d move to America if I ever had the faintest suspicion they were anywhere near power.

    33. 1mongrel — on 8th July, 2009 at 10:55 am  

      Mr Feathers (33). Good to see the “Lazy White Chav” stereotype out again, it even seems to have disappeared from The Guardian thesedays. A myth too far (From the Truth) even for them perhaps. ONS is quite clear on the matter, the WWC are up to 3 times more likely to be working than any ethnic minority. Still don’t let the truth get in the way of good multikulti mendacity.

      http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=462&Pos=7&ColRank=2&Rank=144

    34. Jai — on 8th July, 2009 at 11:15 am  

      ONS is quite clear on the matter, the WWC are up to 3 times more likely to be working than any ethnic minority

      Not quite.

      From the same link:

      “The unemployment rate for Indian men (7 per cent) was similar to those for White British or White Irish men.”

      I believe the exact quotes in relation to ‘3 times’ were the following:

      In 2004 Pakistani women had the highest unemployment rates in Great Britain, at 20 per cent. The next highest female rates were among women from the Black African or Mixed ethnic groups (each 12 per cent). These rates were around three times the rates for White British and White Irish women (4 per cent each).

      and

      Among men, those from Black Caribbean, Black African, Bangladeshi and Mixed ethnic groups had the highest unemployment rates (between 13 and 14 per cent). These rates were around three times the rates for White British and White Irish men (5 per cent in each case).

      Still, don’t let the truth and factual accuracy get in the way of BNP propaganda.

    35. Mr. Feathers — on 8th July, 2009 at 11:26 am  

      Not to mention the fact that asylum seekers, many of whom are educated professionals, are expressly forbidden to work by a shite government which is more concerned with gaining the support of cunts than with getting good policies enacted.

      If they really can’t support themselves then of course I don’t think the taxpayer should support them. The only BNP policy I agree with (apart from leaving the EU) is voluntary repatriation. Sometimes it doesn’t work out and people find this isn’t the promised land after all, so having not made their fortune they should go back.

      However, if it weren’t for such shit as the “policy” I described above, they’d have more of a chance.

      Yes, a lot of blacks and Asians are part of the underclass and they too are receiving support for making lifestyle choices they can’t pay for, which is wrong. The problem is the overreach of the welfare state rather than any race, which is why I am anti-racist.

      I have a special hatred of the BNP because of personal circumstances, but if we withdrew state housing and support for large, workless families and had a basic CBI for those who fall through the cracks we’d be better off.

      I am currently a higher rate taxpayer but I have been unemployed before. I might lose my job. If so I’d claim basic unemployment benefit because that is what the welfare state was set up to do and I wouldn’t give a fuck about it if that was all it did.

      If there was a basic CBI then people would know that any work they did would immediately and obviously make them better off so they would work. They would also refrain from having large families with no means of support.

    36. 1mongrel — on 8th July, 2009 at 11:58 am  

      Jai (35) I quite clearly said “Up to”, seems the meaning of this phrase escapes you. The rates for Indians are interesting and discount the “racism” usually offered as an explanation, doubt many British employers can discriminate between a muslim name and a hindu/sikh one. Must be some other reason for their indolence.

    37. munir — on 8th July, 2009 at 12:15 pm  

      Mr Feathers
      “If they really can’t support themselves then of course I don’t think the taxpayer should support them. The only BNP policy I agree with (apart from leaving the EU) is voluntary repatriation. Sometimes it doesn’t work out and people find this isn’t the promised land after all, so having not made their fortune they should go back”

      Think youll find that we already have a system of voluntary repatriation. If people dont like it in the UK they leave (as many white Britons including BNPers do). There are no border police stopping people leaving the country. If they do like it, they stay.

      This exposes the pernicous reality behind sugar coated pharses like “voluntary repatriation” which if the BNP ever got in (which they wouldnt) would be heavy on the second and light on the latter.

    38. Jennifer Smith — on 8th July, 2009 at 1:12 pm  

      Commenting on the Human Rights and Equality Commission report into the allocation of social housing, the Co-Chairmen of the Cross Party Group on Balanced Migration, Frank Field MP and Nicholas Soames MP, said:

      “The elephant in the room is the huge impact of migration on overall demand for housing. The Government has lost control of immigration, and does not have a housing policy to cope with the consequences. Immigration now accounts for nearly 40 per cent of new households. The waiting lists for social housing in England have risen by 60 per cent in six years and now include nearly 5 million people. Looking ahead, official statistics show that we will have to build a new home every five minutes for the next twenty years or so just for future migrants. With public spending under such pressure, the first step must be to reduce this major source of housing demand.”
      Official figures released a fortnight ago showed that the projected number of households in England will rise from 21.52 million (2006) to 25.44 million in 2021. This is a rise of almost 4 million households in 15 years. According to Government forecasts, 70% of the population increase up to 2031 will be due to immigration. The largest single reason for household formation is immigration, which will account for almost 40% of all new household formation in England. More details can be found here

      http://www.balancedmigration.com/pressreleases/Pressreleaseonregionaltrends240609.pdf

      Following the European elections on 4 June, at which two BNP MEPs were elected to the European Parliament for the first time, Migrationwatch commissioned a YouGov poll on behalf of the Cross Party Group. The poll showed that 35 per cent of voters listed immigration as an issue that most influenced their decision, above the NHS, crime, education and the environment.

      Fiddling the figures, as usual!!!!

    39. Carmenego — on 8th July, 2009 at 1:34 pm  

      #39 Jennifer Smith

      So, what they’re saying is that 70% of the whole population of the UK in 2031 will be immigrants?

    40. 1mongrel — on 8th July, 2009 at 1:41 pm  

      Carmanengo (40).

      No 70% of the INCREASE, not the whole. All of these figures refer to NETT Immigration which is in itself disingenuous. 10000 Somalis move to Leicester, 10000 whites leave,result - No Increase but it aint Lecester anymore.

    41. Carmenego — on 8th July, 2009 at 1:55 pm  

      #41 1mangoreel

      Hold on a mo, following your logic, there is no increase in population in Leicester, as 10,000-10,000 is zero.

      Unless the Somalis decide to rename Leicester, I think it’ll still be there. And if they do rename it, I hope it’s something fun like “Bester” coz it’s the best, which is why they all moved there.

      That aside, it is predicted that 70% of the population increase will be made up of people emmigrating to the UK, which leaves 30% actually born here? What if that 30% are from mixed race couples, or British Asians, or British Africans, or British Caribbeans?

      There will LITERALLY be NO WHITES left in the UK!

      Perhaps you could convince some of the British who’ve moved over to Spain to come back so that their presence alone (and possibly sheer numbers) could balance out the figures?

    42. Bill Corr — on 8th July, 2009 at 1:57 pm  

      Civility is a virtue which some posters need, as is the courtesy not to assume that anyone not in step with the Multiculti-Kumbaya immigration policy of Lib-Lab-Con is a knuckle-dragging tatooed fascist beast.

      Britain must NOT become an impoverished multi-ethnic slum or even - a more upmarket vision, this - a large International Airport transit lounge.

      A Harvard scholar, Robert Putnam, has established that multi-ethnic societies are low-trust societies. Dig out his work and the work of scoffers and detractors and judge the issue for yourselves.

      Israel might seem a visible exception, but there the very real external [and internal] threat of Islam and/or secular Arab Nationalism keeps the wagons in a circle.

    43. munir — on 8th July, 2009 at 2:16 pm  

      Bill Corr
      “Civility is a virtue which some posters need, as is the courtesy not to assume that anyone not in step with the Multiculti-Kumbaya immigration policy of Lib-Lab-Con is a knuckle-dragging tatooed fascist beast.”

      People think this of you because you call for the genocide of Britain’s largest non-Christian religious minority. A position incidentally more extreme even than the aforementioned “knuckle-dragging tatooed fascist beast(s).”

    44. Carmenego — on 8th July, 2009 at 2:19 pm  

      Argh, just realised a flaw in my logic:

      “Perhaps you could convince some of the British who’ve moved over to Spain to come back so that their presence alone (and possibly sheer numbers) could balance out the figures?”

      Cos then THEY’D be immigrants too. Won’t somebody please think of the children?

    45. Myths on Immigration « Rupa Huq's Blog — on 8th July, 2009 at 2:35 pm  

      [...] of social housing in the UK. Regular commenter to this blog Rumbold brings us the news at Pickled Politics here. The EHRC found that contrary to popular myth 88% of council properties were allocated to the [...]

    46. 1mongrel — on 8th July, 2009 at 2:35 pm  

      Munir (44).

      Think you mean Ethnic Cleansing, Genocide requires that they be killed, not just paid to move home.

    47. 1mongrel — on 8th July, 2009 at 2:39 pm  

      Carmengo(42),

      I don’t know what name the Somali Men use for our local park, where they sit on the swings brawling, shouting and taking drugs all day. Only that our children cannot go there anymore.

    48. Carmenego — on 8th July, 2009 at 2:55 pm  

      #48 1mengorl

      I suggest you report this to the police if they are causing a disturbance and it is unsafe for your children to play in the local park unsupervised.

      Before you offer the assumption that the PC lefty brigade police force won’t do anything because they’re too busy upholding the rights of these foreign scum, perhaps you should give them a call. And if you’ve called them already, write a letter of complaint to them. And if they didn’t bother responding, write another one and send it by special delivery. And if they still don’t reply, write a letter to your local MP. And still, if nothing is done, perhaps supervise your children when they go to the park to play on the swings.

      It doesn’t matter if it’s Somali men chewing khat, or English chavs shooting heroin in your park. If it is illegal, report it.

      PS Love the link between the notion that Somalis may change the name of Leicester to the fact that they take drugs in childrens play areas.

    49. 1mongrel — on 8th July, 2009 at 3:04 pm  

      Been there, done that, been called a racist for even reporting it. Nothing changes. Incidentally, nowhere did I suggest that Leicester’s name would change(That was you), just that it would no longer be Leicester.

    50. Sunny — on 8th July, 2009 at 3:07 pm  

      Been there, done that, been called a racist for even reporting it. Nothing changes.

      Give your whining a fucking rest will you. The police around here show no problem in harassing youths, especially of Somali origin, if they do anything out of the ordinary. The PC lefty brigade indeed. Some of you people have so much of a chip on your shoulder you should carry around a victim card just so we know not to engage you.

    51. halima — on 8th July, 2009 at 3:16 pm  

      “A Harvard scholar, Robert Putnam, has established that multi-ethnic societies are low-trust societies. Dig out his work and the work of scoffers and detractors and judge the issue for yourselves.”

      Yes, been there, done that and debated with him in person, on why his theories on social capital and trust are not quite what they are made out to be. Quite a few people out there disagree with Putnam.

    52. asquith — on 8th July, 2009 at 3:40 pm  

      45- not to mention the fact that they eat shit food, take all the houses, refuse to learn the language, swan around as if they own the place, etc. etc.

      What about Nick Griffin & his fellow Englishmen in Wales, too?

      This thread is a right laugh. I think some of these commentors need to be introduced to the “Babes of the BNP” to let loose of some of their inhibitions & problems- that is if they’re not in the closet!

    53. Carmenego — on 8th July, 2009 at 3:44 pm  

      http://www.viceland.com/wp/2009/07/babes-of-the-bnp/

      LINK! Phwoooar ;-)

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