Nice poem but ridiculous arguments. This is why you need to stop reading the tabloid press.

The reason for California’s budget mess is due to something called the Proposition 13 as well as some archaic legislative rules of order that enable a minority of 35% to block the majority’s will.

The only Governor in recent times that have been able to forge a working majority in the legislature was Pete Wilson – when the legislative leaders actually gavea shit about the state.

Now, unfortunately, that leadership is lacking and parties have become more entrenched in their ideological positions in the legislature satisying the needs of their direct constituents and not really bothering about the state as a whole. That’s why the situation is going from bad to worse for the past 30 years. It has got nothing to do with race or even illegal immigrants that much.

Most ethnic minority groups being funded simply promote sectional interests and the careers of those running the groups. Interesting one you might look at Sunny is an article in today’s copy of The Voice in which Simon Wooley is promoting ” a psychological tool” which can detect “prejudice”. This an absolutely Orwellian nightmare whereby Government departments, local councils and private businesses.

Woolley is quoted as saying that” workplaces would benefit from using the tool called Implicitly because they could root out racists”.

What it seems has happened is that a commercial concern called Hogrefe has invented these tests which it now selling and which is being promoted by an online resources magazine called People Management.

Expect more votes for the BNP if this one gets into the system, let’s try and nip it in the bud first.

I did however state that I think civic groups only belonging to one ethnic/religious minority, or that catered for only one ethnic/religious minority, should be not funded. I said this didn’t apply to the Southall Black Sisters.

Sunny, that’s a rather inconsistent argument – why are the Southall Black Sisters an exception? If you think that that such organisations are useful, then you are pretty much defeating your main argument that organisations that cater one ethnic minority should not be funded.

Seriously, a real left could easily step in instead of the BNP. If we are all infighting whilst the BNP consolidate we only have ourselves to blame.

If you go into some pubs around there it can be a bit of a sorry sight as they seem to lack the dynamism that they once had. In fact, sometimes in places like Depford High Street, inside the pub is the only place you see many white people.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Deptford_Market_south.jpg

I’m not suggesting anything is wrong with this situation (as some people seem to extrapolate that my just saying this is proof of my own BNP feelings. Not so much on this website, but another I was on before).

And actually I find that, (what I just explained) to be a really big obstacle in taking on the far right. Those leftists who are really kean to throw out the ”racist” label at anyone who veers away from their own views on anti-racism.

Yes Ger Francis, I somewhat agree when you say: ”Multicultural Britain is a growing success story.” But let’s not ignore more difficult issues like: what if a majority of the population don’t share that view? And might think that rates of immigration by poor unskilled people in the last 15 years had been too high?
Many end up in some of our inner city areas that already have problems with housing and poverty.

Some people may have seen these short 3 minute films on Channel 4 last year, done by this 17 year old from East London. He came to Britain as a child (from Congo) and he and his mother ended up in some of the capital’s more challenging environments.
Btw, in 2007, of the 27 London teenagers that were killed, I’m pretty sure that 9 of them were of Congolese origin. Have a look at the films if you can.
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/dispatches/i4i+films+by+aj+nakasila/1390347
I spoke about this (and did that link) on another leftist website, but they were having mone of it.
No way were they going to discuss this (with me) I was told by several. And sure enough, questions about my motives were soon raised.
I think that (that) suspicious attitude hinders the fight against racism. It turns people off the left, who can come over as overly pious and narrow minded.

Rather than going after the BNP, I’d much rather see Migration Watch put in the spotlight.

Re postal voting; if we are being totally accurate, it is the Peoples Justice Party who should receive the praise for first really bringing the issue into the public domain. Salma was the first to expose the way it was disenfranchising women and young people in particular. And it was her initiative that got all party agreement calling for a Birmingham opt-out from at the next election:

http://www.thestirrer.co.uk/yaqoob-wins-backing-for-postal-vote-ban-2407081.html

There has been further demographic change since 2001. An analysis of the 2008 electoral register for Sparkbrook (which is a trailing indicator of populace) indicates that 71% of the voters are probably from South Asian background and that approximately 66% of voters are from a Muslim background. However, the voters from a Muslim background are from a large number of different backgrounds – for instance a long established Yemeni community. The area certainly isn’t 90% Pakistani, but it probably isn’t much above 12-5% white these days.

As for Respect being the first party to expose the abuses of the postal voting system, then what, pray was all the kerfluffle in 2003/4 raised by John Hemming about?

Towards the end of this-

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/110760/Only-a-fool-would-believe-spending-cuts-are-avoidable

Pakistani’s actually make up 44% and whites 20%:

http://www.birminghameconomy.org.uk/wards/wardspa.htm

C’mon MMS, Harry’s Place is just rabidly anti-Muslim. Sorry, I mean rabidly ‘anti-Islamist’. And Martin Bright, while not as crass and offensive, sings pretty much from the same hymn sheet.

Oh dear, what a shame. You’d better get used to it because a whole new (Old) mathematics is coming to the fore. People are beginning to put numbers on the REAL cost of immigration and it ain’t pretty. The Express put it at 30 Billion for the UK this week. Californian Public Servants getting IOUs instead of wages whilst their expensive Hospitals and Prisons accomodate mainly illegal immigrants. Diversity or Dollars? Crossrail or “Communities”? NHS or WORLDHS?

Time for some Kipling I think-

The Gods of the Copybook Headings

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AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the Devil you know.”

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “The Wages of Sin is Death.”

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

What a load of lying hysterical garbage. Criticising the kind of Islamists Respect associates with (eg Dr Nassem of Birmingham Central Mosque, a past Respect candidate and now noted 7/7 conspiricist) is a public service. To conflate this with being “Islamophobic” is the kind of disgusting propaganda you get from far Left hacks like Ger Francis.

Mind you he’s in a party that has Galloway as leader. What more do you need to know.

No. Just don’t pander to them.

‘For example, what do you say to someone who says that they don’t enjoy being in the kind of highly multi-cultural neighbourhoods that many of our cities now have?’

If people don’t like living in inner-city areas because too many of their neighbours are non-white, I would say that is a good indicator of racial intolerance! Although, in general, support for the fascists tends not to be in the inner-city multi-racial areas, but in the more homogeneous white ones. It is easier to be racist the more desensitised you are from the people who bear the consequences of that racism. The growth areas for the BNP are not in the likes of Elephant and Castle, contrary to what damon might believe. I live in Sparkbrook ward in Birmingham, where the local councillors are Respect and where, if you follow the ‘communalist’ charges levelled against Respect, you would expect to see a growth in BNP support as a reaction. Yet their share of the vote for the last three years has been very poor. Multicultural Britain is a growing success story.

I have not seen the leaflet Chris Williams makes reference to. If Yvonne Ridley was the only Muslim candidate in the race I don’t necessarily see something wrong in bringing it to the attention of Muslim voters. Jewish politicians do this all the time. The Conservative’s in Sparkbrook ran a Bengali candidate a few years ago who made great claim that he was from that specific community. And considering the very low number of councillors from Bengali background in the council, fair enough. Nobody, quite rightly, called them ‘communalist’ for so doing. If we want the term to have any real meaning, as opposed to being a lazy smear, you have to come up with evidence of racial or religious incitement. None of those on this site who throw the term about, especially Sunny, can fulfil this basic criteria for the simple reason that there is no evidence to be found.

Respect was shaped by, and emerged out of, an anti-war movement that emphasised unity and solidarity between Muslims and non-Muslims, not the opposite. (Since I am on the theme, Respect is also the only party in South Birmingham to quite consciously tackle anti-Semitism in the Muslim community. It was a running theme in when Salma chaired the big Birmingham Gaza demo and ditto when George spoke to a 600 strong public meeting in Sparkbrook. More generally, as part of trying to insulate the entire community against the BNP’s racist virus, Salma has issued 10,000 leaflets in her ward with a photo of herself and the late Jewish Holocaust survivor, Leon Greenman, reminding people of where BNP fascist race hatred can lead.)

Finally, I don’t have an issue with open and frank discussion about comments by Muslim leaders:

http://www.thestirrer.co.uk/yaqoob-shows-respect-for-official-77-version-0207091.html

and Respect is the only party to have openly exposed the abuses of the postal vote system inside South Asian communities and the way a whole layer of people are complicit in it:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/may/02/thesecrettosuccess

I do have a problem with an ideological agenda which seeks to demonise any Muslim political figure as a sinister ‘Islamist’ just because they happen to be outspoken on the impact of US/UK foreign policy. This is the method of the Cold War warriors who sought to label anyone critical of American foreign policy as a ‘Red’. In the eyes of this government, neo-con stooges like Harry’ Place, Martin Bright and those who hang on their coat-tails, in essence the only ‘good Muslim’ is one that toes the government line. Not only does this add to a general Islamaphobic climate, it is also more likely to increase the appeal of the genuine ‘extremists’ inside the Muslim community. If, under the guise of ‘preventing extremism’, a culture of ideological fear, intimidation and self censorship become the norm, the issues many Muslims feel strongly about like the impact of the ‘war on terror’, foreign policy, anti-Muslim racism etc, will find other, more underground outlets, to be held in, hosted by people with genuinely reactionary agendas.