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    Holocaust Museum shooting brings out the unbalanced


    by Rumbold on 14th June, 2009 at 8:57 am    

    Richard Bartholomew has chosen his top three unhinged responses to the shooting. Gold goes to Morton H. Pomerantz, though I think it should have gone to this effort by Debbie Schlussel (which won silver):

    Mr. Von Brunn has been on this planet for 89 years, and he didn’t feel comfortable shooting up a Holocaust museum until now–this new era of “tolerance,” in which we must tolerate the most extremist Muslim behaviors and sentiments.”



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    1. Sarah — on 14th June, 2009 at 9:10 am  

      Nick Cohen probably deserves a biscuit for his “it was the liberals done it” effort:

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jun/14/james-von-brunn-far-right

      in which he sensationally reveals that the man who attacked a Holocaust museum was a longtime subscriber to 9/11 conspiracy theories and therefore allied to the left. Because the people Cohen *thinks* a murderer is associated with are much more important than the people was *actually* associating with.

    2. Random Guy — on 14th June, 2009 at 9:52 am  

      Its disgusting how far these media commentators will go to correlate this incident with “Islamic Extremism”. Shocking and expected.

    3. marvin — on 14th June, 2009 at 9:52 am  

      He hates neo-cons, Bill Reilly, is anti Iraq war, is a 9/11 truther, hates the Jewish lobby and it’s sucking up to Israel.

      Convention says that if somebody hates people on the collectivism of race, then they are therefore on the far-right. Yet this makes no sense in the Revolutionary Court of France.

      The guy is no way trying to maintain a status quo, he is not a conservative - far from it - he is violent revolutionary, he wants to over throw the government. He would be sitting firmly on the left of the court.

      The point is people who are trying to say this guy is only far-right are trying desperately to distance themselves form him, because the of the nominal similarities.

      National Socialists borrow much from the far-left, about the workers, against greedy corporations, ant-capitalism, against Zionists etc. Yet because they are racist they are simply far-right!

      The fact is these neo-fascists are neither left nor right.

    4. marvin — on 14th June, 2009 at 10:03 am  

      Its disgusting how far these media commentators will go to correlate this incident with “Islamic Extremism”. Shocking and expected.

      Why on earth is it shocking? What planet are you living on? In this era, the majority of attacks on Jews are by Islamist extremists. Everybody knows this.

      Of course everybody was waiting initially to find out the man’s identity; was this a nazi or an Islamic extremist?

      Turns out his was a nazi. But they have much in common. Perhaps that’s why the Aryan Nations offered their hand of friendship to Al-Qaeda

    5. Ravi Naik — on 14th June, 2009 at 10:10 am  

      Debbie Schlussel

      Rumbold, Debbie Schlussel is a complete lunatic who sees an Islamic terrorist in every Muslim or situation she disapproves of, including the election of Obama.

      But the irony… well, you can’t make this up.

    6. Tim Hall — on 14th June, 2009 at 11:25 am  

      Remember that all hardline ideologues (be they Fascists, Trots, Randroids or Fundies) see the world in stark black and white terms. So everyone but them and their allies are ‘the enemy’, and they assume all their opponents are allied against them.

    7. Rumbold — on 14th June, 2009 at 12:21 pm  

      Marvin:

      “The fact is these neo-fascists are neither left nor right.”

      Agreed. And the sooner we stop worrying about defining them the sooner we can get to grips with them. Who cares what someone is classed as? You either agree with them or you don’t.

      Thanks for that Ravi. She clearly has form.

    8. Chris Baldwin — on 14th June, 2009 at 4:29 pm  

      “National Socialists borrow much from the far-left, about the workers, against greedy corporations, ant-capitalism”

      That’s why they banned trade unionism and let the corporations use slave labour…

    9. Adnan — on 15th June, 2009 at 10:08 am  

      “He hates neo-cons, Bill Reilly, is anti Iraq war, is a 9/11 truther, hates the Jewish lobby and it’s sucking up to Israel.”

      The US Far Right have their own reasons for this - they have their shadowy World Government conspiracy theories so this does not make him Left-wing.

      He is not being called racist because he is of the Right, it’s because of his associations and actions.

      “The guy is no way trying to maintain a status quo, he is not a conservative - far from it - he is violent revolutionary, he wants to over throw the government. He would be sitting firmly on the left of the court.”

      No he wouldn’t, it depends upon what he’d do after his revolution succeeded. Just like violent Islamists who would impose a very “conservative” set of rules.

    10. Imran Khan — on 15th June, 2009 at 3:21 pm  

      Marvin - “Why on earth is it shocking? What planet are you living on? In this era, the majority of attacks on Jews are by Islamist extremists. Everybody knows this.”

      Thats nonsense and I wonder what planet you live on??

      The Jewish/Muslim Tensions are caused by the failure to resolve the issue of Israel and Palestine. The majority of attacks are therefore in the region.

      Most attacks on Jews worldwide are due to anti-semitism and not Israel/Palestine.

      Most Jewish Organisations such as the CST report this but obviously you don’t want to listen.

      The causes of anti-semitism run deep and this attack is not due to the issues of the Middle East, it is due to people with an established and deep seated hatred of Jews and this is a growing problem in America which if you knew your facts you would know. Organisations which cover anti-semitism in the USA report on this widely and I suggest you actually read what they say.

      You can’t make every attack on a Jewish Person into an Islamist thing no matter how hard you try and that is exactly what the right wing commentators so worship so much are trying to do.

      It is a pathetic and distorted attempt to blame every ill in the world on everyone but themselves. It is the lazy failure of the right wing to address the Israel/Palestine issue that is the major contributor to Jewish/Muslim tensions and it is a blatent lie by the right to imply it is the fault of anyone else. Eight years of neglect and their continuing attempt to continue this neglect highlights the pathetic approach of the right and their weasly words to distort what happened here to reset the agenda is a sign of the depth they stoop to to try and set the agenda. The right wing commentators are a disgrace for again their neglect to address a serious issue and instead are using this sad event for propoganda and to further their own aims.

      They are in no way helping the Jewish Community and it is the failures of the right which contribute to the extremism we are seeing. Defending the right is defending the indefensible and is simply a defense of failure. Until the right can accept responsibility for the fact that much of the worlds extremism is due to their 50 years of policy then we can’t progress.

      By trying to divert the issue you are diverting the real discussions that need to take place due to the emergence of the right in this country and Europe and the threat they are to Jews, Muslims and ethnics.

      If you can’t contribute without resorting to right wing propaganda then stop trying to divert the discussion to protect the right.

    11. Imran Khan — on 15th June, 2009 at 4:58 pm  

      Despite the lazy and devious rhetoric of the right to steer this tragic incident to fit their agenda there are serious issues at play here.

      With the dire economic situation the right has seen a resurgence and this coupled with the financial crisis means that Jews are being blamed for the mess.

      The right is anxious because Israel is being pushed to peace so any incident is being used to blame Islamists and divert from the steps necessary to make peace.

      This in turn diverts us from the very real issues which have caused this killing namely the ongoing antisemitism in the right which is being used to blame the current economic mess on the Jews. The Jewish Organisations which monitor this activity have said that this is now on the increase.

      By not being diverted by the right and Marvin I would like to see a discussion on this and how to address this issue. I see Jewish Museums as doing a good job at outreach and this event proves the need for such outreach.

      I would also like to see the Muslim Community confront the issue head on and remove this falsehood the right keeps labeling them with and build bridges with the Jewish Community.

      What of course this does expose is that the right is using any excuse to continue to pursue their failed agenda. It also proves to all those doubters the value of better community understanding as 50+ years ago such a crime would have barely registered outrage.



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