Holocaust museum shooter had links to BNP!


by Sunny
11th June, 2009 at 3:33 pm    

About ten years ago Nick Griffin gave a prominent speech in the United States at a American Friends of the British National Party event. In fact you can watch the speech online, and he says in his speech:

There’s a difference between selling out your ideas and selling your ideas. And the BNP isn’t about selling out its ideas, but we are determined to sell them. Basically that means to use saleable words such as freedom, security, identity, democracy. Nobody can criticise them. Nobosy can come at you and attack you on those ideas – they are saleable. Perhaps one day, by being rather more subtle, once we’re in a position where we control the British broadcasting media, then perhaps one day the British people might change their mind and say ‘yes, every last one must go’. Perhaps they will one day. But if you hold that out as your sole aim to start with, you’re not going to get anywhere. So instead of talking about racial purity, we talk about identity.

So we know the BNP hide behind words like ‘identity’ in order to push racial purity – after all their leader admits it. Anyway, it now turns out that the white supremacist and Holocaust Museum terrorist – James von Brunn – attended those meetings too.
The Washington Post reports:

Von Brunn sometimes spoke of having fought for the wrong side in World War II, Blodgett said, and the two men sometimes attended meetings in Arlington County of the American Friends of the British National Party, which raised funds for the British white supremacist group.

Blodgett said that von Brunn never spoke of violent action in their conversations but that “a lot of these people, when they get toward the end of life, they say they’ve wasted all these years hating, and they want to make a statement somehow.”

Still think there’s no link between the BNP and violence?

via Jerome Taylor at the Independent, who has more:

At the time the BNP were forging close links with a variety of US white supremacists and the party’s leader Nick Griffin remains close friends with powerful American neo-Nazis such as David Duke, a former Klu Klux Klan leader and Don Black, another KKK chap who went on to found Stormfront and was placed on the UK’s banned list two months ago.

According to the Post, Von Brunn and Blodgett would regularly attend meetings in Arlington County of the American Friends of the BNP, which raised funds for the British white supremacist group.

The American Friends was wound up by Coterill in 2001 after the Southern Poverty Law Centre, which investigates American white supremacists, started looking into its fundrasing – but the links between the BNP and their sympathisers stateside remain strong.

Remember, a picture of Nick Griffin speaking alongside former KKK leader David Duke was unearthed recently too. Of course, none of the mainstream broadcasting outlets – who are busy condemning people for throwing eggs at poor Nick Griffin – will raise any of thise. Doing research is too much work these days.
If anyone can find a picture of Griffin alongside Von Brunn I’ll treat you to lunch, I promise.


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  1. Ravi Naik — on 11th June, 2009 at 4:14 pm  

    Sunny, I really wish you and other liberals (and moderates and conservatives) with influence in the blogsphere would meet up, and would draft a point by point rebuttal of the talking points of the BNP, and offer the media a guide to combat the BNP rethoric. Go for the dishonest and incoherent angle, and not for the “love not hate” angle. For instance, questions about Nick Griffin – and why is he hanging with David Duke and Don Black? David Duke is a rabid anti-semite who wants Israel to be destroyed, and has connections with Islamists, and Don Black is a white supremacist who believes that non-whites are mud races and leaches in Western countries. Does he agree with them on those issues? If not, why is he standing and smiling among them?

    By the way, we also need numbers. How much are non-whites contributing to Britain? What is the percentage of whites and non-whites that are receiving benefits? etc.

    The BNP must be put in a corner and start answering tough questions, not be allowed to get away with canned answers like: “we love our race that’s why! why is it so wrong!?”.

  2. Ravi Naik — on 11th June, 2009 at 4:19 pm  

    Sunny, I really wish you and other liberals (and moderates and conservatives) with influence in the blogsphere would meet up, and would draft a point by point rebuttal of the talking points of the BNP, and offer the media a guide to combat the BNP rethoric. Go for the dishonest and incoherent angle, and not for the “love not hate” angle. For instance, questions about Nick Griffin – and why is he hanging with David Duke and Don Black? David Duke is a rabid anti-semite who wants Israel to be destroyed, and has connections with Islamists, and Don Black is a white supremacist who believes that non-whites are mud races and leaches in Western countries. Does he agree with them on those issues? If not, why is he standing and smiling among them?

    By the way, we also need numbers. How much are non-whites contributing to Britain? What is the percentage of whites and non-whites that are receiving benefits? etc.

    The BNP must be put in a corner and start answering tough questions, not be allowed to get away with canned answers like: “we love our race that’s why! why is it so wrong!?”.

  3. Jai — on 11th June, 2009 at 4:20 pm  

    In the meantime…..

    Sunny, brilliant work with this article. Well done.

    Of course, none of the mainstream broadcasting outlets – who are busy condemning people for throwing eggs at poor Nick Griffin – will raise any of thise.

    In which case, I suggest you email a URL and/or a hard copy of this PP article and the associated information to every major British newspaper you can think of, along with the BBC, Sky News, CNN, and any other news outlets that come to mind. This information needs to be distributed as widely as possible.

    Considering what happened in the Holocaust museum over in the United States yesterday, I expect CNN and other US-based media organisations in particular will appreciate this.

  4. Sunny — on 11th June, 2009 at 4:33 pm  

    thanks guys.
    Jai – I’m going away for a week later today… drop me a quick email and I’ll mail you with what I cobbled together earlier.

    I think this could / should be in the form of: ‘Top 10 questions journalists should ask of the BNP’.

  5. modernityblog — on 11th June, 2009 at 4:44 pm  

    good post.

  6. Shamit — on 11th June, 2009 at 4:45 pm  

    Sunny

    Good work and excellent article.

    We have put it up as an announcement and will push it through the feeds: heres the link:

    http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/25613

    If you give us permission, I would like to publish this as a feature item (or a better more detailed version) on the Site and our Weekly newsletter– people in our audience should know this and I think would appreciate.

    **********************************
    Jai

    If you don’t mind us publishing your article as a feature in addition to PP — do drop me an email and send it over please.

    sg AT egovmonitor.com

  7. billericaydicky — on 11th June, 2009 at 4:51 pm  

    All of this has been lifted from Searchlight and in terms of the American stuff from “Homeland” by Nick Ryan who I have been speaking to this afternoon about this and other things.

    You really have got to start doing your research people, all of this has been known and known for years, at least for those us who actually are involved on the ground against the far right.

    I am staggered about the ignorence there is out there, but I suppose I shouldn’t be.

  8. Shamit — on 11th June, 2009 at 5:00 pm  

    Bill

    I am staggered about the ignorence there is out there, but I suppose I shouldn’t be.

    Are you pleased now with your superiority? Glad we could help -

  9. Gez — on 11th June, 2009 at 5:10 pm  

    billericaydicky,

    maybe those of you who have known this for years could do a better job of bradcasting that information? Or do you like being the only one who knows?

    I have known about the Duke connection but this recent link to von Brunn and the shooting brings it all into focus.

    Good work sunny.

  10. 5cc — on 11th June, 2009 at 5:28 pm  

    I’d been thinking of pulling together a very similar list for 5cc. Looking forward to seeing this.

  11. Vikrant — on 11th June, 2009 at 5:28 pm  

    I’m pretty sure i saw that video on a Beeb documentary years ago…

  12. Refresh — on 11th June, 2009 at 6:20 pm  

    Excellent work Sunny.

    Great to see people pulling together. Looking forward to the article Jai.

  13. Clairwil — on 11th June, 2009 at 6:25 pm  

    Good work. Elsewhere have a chuckle at this report from the BNPs Manchester press conference down the pub.

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1120099_bnp_cant_keep_me_out

  14. marvin — on 11th June, 2009 at 7:16 pm  

    Cheers Clairwill

    The party’s manifesto says black and Asian families who have been living in Britain for decades should be offered money as an incentive to leave.

    I was genuinely worried when I heard this. Being Scottish-Pakistani I might only get half the cash.

    LMAO

  15. billaricaydicky — on 11th June, 2009 at 7:46 pm  

    We don’t keep it to ourselves. It is there on the anti fascist websites if you care to look for it.

  16. Shatterface — on 11th June, 2009 at 7:49 pm  

    They’re going to pay you to go back to Scotland?

    Take the money, I would.

  17. Clairwil — on 11th June, 2009 at 8:04 pm  

    @Marvin,
    Highlights for me was this from Nick Griffin on global warming

    ‘They say the icecaps are melting. The ice has melted on Mars and there are no 4x4s there.’

    and this from poor bewildered Mustafa Say in the comments below the article

    ‘Then you describe yourself as “Scotish-Pakistani”, I don’t understand why anyone would desribe themselves in this way, I don’t know what you mean’

    Poor bastard, God help him if he ever goes to America and encounters African-Americans, Italian Americans, Irish-Americans and so on. His brain would explode from sheer bewilderment.

  18. Ravi Naik — on 11th June, 2009 at 9:30 pm  

    Good work. Elsewhere have a chuckle at this report from the BNPs Manchester press conference down the pub.

    Wonderful. :)

  19. Clairwil — on 11th June, 2009 at 10:41 pm  

    Hah! The Manchester News article may be wonderful but this challenge is better and there is a prize up for grabs. A whopping £200!

    All one has to do is refrain from lobbing eggs at Mr Griffin and lob ethnic food instead.

    http://www.bragster.com/dares/312857-pelt-bnp-leader-nick-griffin-with-some-ethnic-food-and-win-200

  20. blemster — on 11th June, 2009 at 11:20 pm  

    Well just read through all this tosh, if you really want to beat the British National Party, you have to focus on the existing parties, if they are taking bungs and living of the workers paying their weekly dues to unions or big corporations etc.
    The British National Party are democratically elected this means some people percieve things different to you, facts are the answer to winning, the British National Party have been using government figures to win thier arguments so it makes it very hard for the lefties to fight their corner, The B.N.P. do have some good policies and some not so good, but so do all parties. I can see the B.N.P. growing in the next 5 years. whether this is for good or bad only history can tell, but i do have faith in them to make a real difference.

  21. Clairwil — on 11th June, 2009 at 11:27 pm  

    Blemster,
    Not all lefies defend the government. I have never voted Labour and cannot imagine doing so in the future. Our Jai has helpfully provided a list of questions for the BNP over policy in the above post. Perhaps you could have a go at answering them with reference to the parts of their manifesto that attracted your vote? Failing that why not tell us more about why you voted for them. Go on educate the lefties.

  22. scratscrotium — on 12th June, 2009 at 2:09 am  

    The thing that makes me really sick is that, sure, I know a few decent white people, but where are the demonstrations proving white people don’t follow this totalitarian ideology to a T?

    Well?

    Frankly, I’ve spoken to many white people in pubs and heard sympathetic voices. . . . .

    Hmmmm….

    I can only assume all white people agree with the premise of the cnut also known as James von Brunn. . .

    Perhaps the Graun will publish the thoughts of a racist supremacist tomorrow under the guise of “rocking the boat”.

    Or perhaps not.

    This is why I gave up blogging a long time ago.

    Too many cnuts, not enough beachfronts…

  23. blah — on 13th June, 2009 at 2:58 pm  

    Why are you blaming the poor old BNP?

    According to Debie Schlussel, the Jewish Zionist writer and Fox News contributor the shooting at the Holocaust musuem by a white supremacist is all the fault of……Muslims

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2009/06/so_what_if_holo.html

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