What is it with Sikhs and jokes? Now all we need is Mangles at the mike.

I suspect that Churchill would possibly buy into other narratives such as British history / tradition being under threat.

Also, a worry is the BNP finding a leader untainted by racist thuggery, or a Nazi background (Holocaust Denial, dressing up in uniforms, links to US Far Right) – a logical progression in a process beginning with changing emphasis to a religious group, moderating their language. However, maybe they won’t be sophisticated enough to do so, or they’ll lose some of their real hard-core support (cited as a possible reason for the membership list leak).

I think the less overt racist approach has helped them.

We really need to see this happen though. I wish I could start a petition to get Paxman to grill not just the BNP,…..about their dodgy aspects. On primetime television. That would be amazing.

I would absolutely love to see a one-hour Newsnight special focusing solely on Paxman taking Griffin completely apart. Griffin got slaughtered by Adam Bolton and William Hague on Sky News on the night of the election, so you can only imagine what Paxman would be able to do to him.

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I’d like to see Nick Griffin stand his ground with Jello Biafra in the room

I’d like to see Hitler-worshipping, Nazi-defending, WW2 RAF-hating Nick Griffin stand his ground with Winston Churchill in the room.

Churchill, for all his faults (especially his attitude towards Indians), was so aggressively hostile towards the Nazis that, during discussions on the matter in December 1944, US leaders actually had to restrain him when it came to his views on what should be done to captured leading Nazis. (Churchill’s original stance involved summary executions via an “Act of Attainder” in order circumvent legal obstacles).

Y’know Amrit its not Nick Griffins fault that he did not get a higher class degree.

It was all those immigrants in their multitudes that attend Cambridge that prevented him from achieving supremacy. All the Cambridge dons were spending all their time teaching remedial classes to the droves of non whites there. The same thing happened to him at the two private schools he attended before University too. Oh and at kindergarten he had to share the climbing frame with a non indigenous kid which ruined his motor skills for life too.

What I would really love to see is this:

Pac-man: Let me get this straight. You think whites are ‘the master race,’ and that Britain would be better off without non-whites.

British Nazi Poppet: Yes.

Pac-man: So, you have a leader who couldn’t even get a second-class degree in History, but you think you’re going to be able to train millions of ‘indigenous whites’ to do significantly different and harder jobs, like surgery? Pharmacy?

British Nazi Poppet: *begins to make like a Ribena berry and go purple with rage*

Pac-man: I’m waiting for an explanation…

We really need to see this happen though. I wish I could start a petition to get Paxman to grill not just the BNP, but ALL the major parties, about their dodgy aspects. On primetime television. That would be amazing.

Brilliant !

Especially this bit:

British Nazi Poppet: Well, obviously we will train indigenous whites to take over those roles…

Pac-man: What if they don’t want to do them? What if they want to become footballers and glamour models?

Love it

hilarious!

Nice one.

Jai has competition now.

Are bat-like?

Ought to be clipped?

Seriously though, I really wish we could see Paxman facing down BNP members: ‘So, you want to deport all non-whites, British or not.’

*squirming BNP member* Er…

Pac-man: Is that not what it said in your manifesto?

British Nazi Poppet: Yes…

Pac-man: So what magic wand will you wave to replace all the, say, Indian doctors? The Filipino nurses?

British Nazi Poppet: Well, obviously we will train indigenous whites to take over those roles…

Pac-man: What if they don’t want to do them? What if they want to become footballers and glamour models?

British Nazi Poppet: …

and so on and so on until GAME OVER! Pac-man will get his ghost (the British Nazi Poppet).

I’ll just head back to my padded cell now.

From reading the BNP manifesto as far as I can tell it appears to be unworkable mish mash of poulist rhetoric drawn from the right and the left in an effort to make themselves look like something more substantial than a single issue white taliban.

Platinum786 was clearly joking. It is not as if Glen Jenvey is on this thread (or is he…?). If we can’t even make jokes, then we might as well give up.

Jai:

I’ll just make my points on this thread, rather than on the other one as well (so as to keep things simple).

I am in general very uncomfortable with the idea of banning groups because of what they might do. For example, Gordon Brown and his cronies have destroyed this country’s economy. A number had links with Britain’s past enemies (Mandelson, Darling etc.). Should the Labour party therefore be banned? No. Should the BNP be banned because of what they might do? Again, no. People, and this includes Al-Muhajiroun, should be free to form their own groups, providing their group’s activities/charter does not break the law. Individuals should be prosecuted for breaking the law.

Munir:

But some people don’t vote on immigration in order to ‘keep out the foreigners’, but because they are worried by what they perceive as the negative aspects of it (such as extra pressure on public services). Deal with those problems, and you leave the BNp with their racism and not much else.

(And no, that’s not a euphemism for anal sex)”

Is this newspeak? Not a euphemism with which I am familiar.

(And no, that’s not a euphemism for anal sex)

I’m afraid you could be right, but in national elections with the current first-past-the-post system, for the BNP to win a seat in Westminister say in 2010 is obviously nigh-on impossible. With all the talk about PR or the forms of the Alternative Vote system for Westminister, surely this is something to take into proper consideration, as Chairwoman has pointed out. If I’m not mistaken the Germans deal with this under their PR system by not granting federal seats to any party that gets less then 5% of the vote at the federal state elections.

Agreed. A key problem with the Labour Party in rural S Yorks (as much of Barnsley and Doncaster Districts actually are), as opposed to Sheffield, is that it is weak in terms of activists due to decades of total dominance.

One of the points missed about FPTP as a voting system by the upper echelons of both Labour and Tory Party leaderships is that it helps attrophies partys as well as voter numbers. Something I see Brown and Cameron have still failed to grasped this arvo.

Regarding having less votes, this could just be due to apathy surely?