Iraqi rapist may stay

Generalizing from my own experience:

1) People under attack seek allies. Whites being attacked by non whites first turn to the government, which tells them that they are confused and that immigrants are actually nice people. Then they turn to BNP.

2) Stupid people are poor people. Poor people do not live in Ivory tower but near near immigrants. They are the the first to benefit from the “peace” known as Islam.

I’m not saying racists are irredeemable. I was at uni with a couple of boarding school boys who were really into Skrewdriver and other far right nonsense at the time they arrived at uni. When I asked them about this in our final year they were totally embarrassed and apologetic – the uni experience had changed them. Similar changes happened with some (not all) of the more working class lads I’ve worked with in casual summer jobs. My mum and dad – like most first generation asians who arrived in the 60s/70s – were pretty racist towards white, black and muslim people when they first arrived – but no longer.

By the way, I should have said more visibility and engagement and less isolation by Asian communities should be part of any strategy to undermine the BNP – so I’d agree with you that much about the downsides of multiculturalism, although I wouldn’t condemn it wholesale in the way you seem to. (See France and its minorities trying to be little Brown Frenchmen embarrassed even to discuss their backgrounds to see what happens without some kind of multiculturalism.)

Jai – Isn’t this claim about UK turning into the 51st state a bit old hat? They’ve been saying it ever since the country was overrun with insatiable appetite for jazz and Hollywood in the 1930s. 70 years later the US and UK are if anything more different than they were back then (what with Hispanic influence over there and asian influence over here). US food (McDonalds) and music is less popular now than it used to be. UK media and public is now much more critical of the US than perhaps at any time in the past 70 years. I bet people will still be trotting out the “we’re becoming too american” line 70 years from now (unless by then it’s changed to “we’re becoming too Chinese/Indian” – depending on who’s the global cultural hegemon by then…)

That’s the ironic thing — in reality, the UK is basically turning into the 51st State of the US (culturally). I don’t see the country as a whole becoming a mini-India or mini-Pakistan, even if certain parts of it seem that way. There aren’t actually that many of us here compared to the 60+ million indigenous population.

It’s a case of the BNP playing upon people’s fears, especially as the visibility of Asians is greater than the actual numbers. I guess it’s a little like Sikhs in India (small population but much higher profile).

I would be careful in labelling people ‘racists’ just because they vote for the BNP. Racism is a serious social disease, where people – for instance – get anxious just to sit or see people that are dark-skinned.

But for a lot of people, it’s a culture thing. If they perceive that their town is becoming increasingly more ethnic, they become more unconfortable. As I said before, I believe that multiculturism as is implemented in the UK makes people more complacent to integrate.

I think in part, multiculturism has served both the Right and the Left quite well. The Right never wanted other communities to integrate with their own society. Each community for its own. And the Left – guilty because of the colonisation and the sort – feels that communities should live here as they would live in their own countries.

And I fear that this mentality is what the BNP needs to get this message across: that Britain is losing its cultural identity. And they don’t even need to go to the ‘race’ route.

Yes we’ve got to tackle the problems of social infrastructure, housing, transport etc – but because they are worth doing in themselves, not as a strategy to stop the BNP. Our strategy to stop the BNP should be to point out the stupidity of their supposed arguments, the even greater stupidity of most of their candidates, and to make clear that those who vote for racist parties must expect to be labeled as racists themselves.

I believe most BNP supporters will move away from their racism if given access to the right information, rather than the BNP/ Daily Mail xenophobic propoganda. My own experience tends to support this hopeful analysis. (And it seems from the Cohen article that even BNP councillors can be made to see sense and quit their odious party.)

But enough of this root causes nonsense. It doesn’t work for Islamist suicide murderers. And it doesn’t work for white racists either.

This comment has the dubious honour of being either blatant wrong or blatant obvious depending on what he means by ‘multiracial’ communities.

Obviously no racist crime can be commited if the society is all-white or all-black, which shows how irrelevant crime is when linked with race. On the other hand, Russia is predominantly white and you keep hearing about racist murders/attacks against foreign students very frequently.

Again, who says racist people are stupid?

Do you really expect me to fall for this rubbish? They concentrated hard on a few areas by spreading tons of lies abnd so they got a few dimwits to vote for them. They would never get anywhere nationally. Their arses would be sued out of existence for lying first.

Rather than forming their own political party, this failed bunch of weirdos

Right…. and I’m supposed to take a BNP supporter seriously? Anyone can form a political party… even a bunch of half-witted imbeciles. As the BNP clearly show.

Racist attacks only happen in multiracial communities,

Haha! That’s like saying “crime only takes place in places where there’s money”. Try and exercise that brain a bit more please so you can come out with a coherent argument.

a government that gave us racist attacks in the first place,

They gave us racist attacks? Is that in a legislation or through some mass-hypnotic exercise?

Lastly, do I care that MLK might have plagiarised some speeches? No. At least he had good ideals. Too bad I can’t say the same about you.

Let’s say though for arguments sake he really was a cheat and a liar, at least his words ring true.

“Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity”.

If he was a plagiarist then he was conscientiously stupid and sincerely ignorant. The fact that people still worship him, remember him and quote him is scary and yes, dangerous.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1769483,00.html

I see you’re stooping low enough to start quoting Searchlight

Searchlight is a noble and brave journal dedicated to trailing and highlighting Nazi political scum. Have some fun with Nick Cohen in the Observer today – he relates some hilarious examples of the BNP at work in council chambers – including the one who made an interruption in the middle of a debate to ask someone to explain what the word ‘abstain’ meant. Hilarious fuckwits.

“The BNP contested over 350 council wards won only 44 seats… In other places their showing was pitiful.”

Really? BNP candidates achieved a national average of 18.1%, based on the individual candidate’ votes. Compare their 2006 percentage with their 2004 percentage. In most cases there was a huge increase in support:
http://www.bnp.org.uk/election2006/results.php

“The BNP’s success however came primarily from a focus on local housing and transportation issues. Of course they falsely blamed immigrants and asylum seekers but it gives us an indication of likely future direction.”

Wrong. The BNP do not blame immigrants or asylum seekers. They blame the ‘mainstream’ governments. And anyway, how could immigration not exacerbate housing shortages?

“Those gullible enough to fall for the BNP’s lies are unlikely to listen to them anyway.”

And which party’s lies recently got us into an illegal war?

I see you’re stooping low enough to start quoting Searchlight and its bunch of useful idiots at Stop The BNP. Its communist, criminal editor is hardly likely to provide impartial account of the BNP. Rather than forming their own political party, this failed bunch of weirdos try to find meaning in their lives by attacking anyone right-wing of the Greens.

Read “Background notes for editors” at the base of this article.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/columnists/docdiary2.php?docId=10

And this: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/finalconflict/a20-1.html

And while you’re slagging off BNP councillors, take a look at this:
http://www.bnp.org.uk/articles/liars_oct04.htm
or just take a quick look at the ‘achievements’ of some of Blair’s recently booted sidekicks.

The intelligence of some who have come here to tell us why they voted BNP is also hilarious. Apparently if you see racist attacks by non-white criminal gangs then it is all the more reason to vote for a racist party that will do their best to help increase racism. That makes sense! Who said racists were stupid people?

Utter rubbish. Racist attacks only happen in multiracial communities, the kind endorsed by ‘mainstream’ parties which do their best to ignore attacks on whites (which, according to the Home Office, are in the majority). Tell me, under which British governments have racist attacks come about? Real ‘stupidity’ comes in voting for more of the same punishment, ie, a government that gave us racist attacks in the first place, and has done nothing to halt the destruction of white communities by mass non-white immigration.

…but as Martin Luther King once said “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity”.

How ironic, Rakhee, that you should quote MLK on ignorance and stupidity. This liar and academic failure plagiarised huge chunks of his doctoral thesis and even his “dream” speech.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr._-_authorship_issues
Now that really is hilarious!

I bet the sex would be great… ruthlessness and supremacism under the bedsheets.

Can’t beat it!

Anyway, I know some people are worried this marks the ascent of the BNP into respectability and widespread support. It doesn’t. We have been here before:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4968406.stm

As I also said above, the BNP councillors are usually so so comically stupid and bad that they are not going to get far.

Dave – BBC News says they won 27 seats and increased their total to 32. See here. So we’re both wrong.

j0nz – aha. I When I heard his name on radio I mistook him for Muslim. Cheers for correcting that.

Bikhair – Take your point. I plan to do another post on it… if and when that chance arises.

Yusuf and Rohin:
The press has done a lot to expose the BNP’s racism and lies… even the likes of the Sun and Daily Mail constantly bash them (if maybe only to promote their anti-racist credentials so they can bash immigrants later). Rohin has picked this up.

But I want the BNP on TV more so people can hear their rubbish. I actually get annoyed that while white racists are successfully marginalised – Muslim fanatics are actually hunted down for a front-page quote. Whackos like Omar Bakri love the media.

The trick with Nick Griffin is that he is very smart. He plays down his racism on TV and tries his best to come across as a reasonable man who wants the best for Britons. In a way his language and mannerisms are not dis-similar to Hizb ut Tahrir who have also learnt to play the media game and now always do their best to sound very moderate and middle-class.

the more Nick Griffin comes on TV, the more opportunity there is for his mask to slip away. And it will happen. If he continues being moderate, then the upshot is that his core base of hardcore racist supporters will get pissed off and desert him for the more extremist National Front or Stormfront crew. Either way it is win-win for us.