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    Pointless anti-BNP stunts annoy the hell out of me

    by Sunny on 2nd June, 2009 at 9:05 am    

    The Guardian reports:

    Gordon Brown today joins a series of sports and entertainment stars to urge voters to spurn the British National party in Thursday’s European and local elections.

    In a letter published in today’s Guardian, signed by the Little Britain star Matt Lucas and the Manchester United defender Gary Neville, Brown says that voting for the BNP “is a vote against everything that makes this country great”.

    Firstly, who the hell is going to be convinced to not vote BNP by Gordon Brown? My mother would probably vote BNP if the only alternative was him. Secondly, why is the letter in the Guardian? What percentage of Guardian readers are likely to vote BNP?

    These kind of meaningless stunts by liberal do-gooders annoy the hell out of me. The BNP has become successful because it positions itself as the anti-politics and anti-establishment party. Don’t these people realise that by allying themselves with the despised establishment candidate they actually help the BNP? I wish the Guardian would stop encouraging and printing this crap.

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    1. gareth — on 2nd June, 2009 at 9:23 am  

      Well said sir, but asking the Guardian to be anything other than far left is wasting ones time. The other reason the BNP is so popular is because it is listening to peoples concerns even if it is with a screwed up message! Does anyone really take any notice of millionnaire liberals who go home to there wonderful ivory towers but still like to spout to the working man what they should do?

    2. platinum786 — on 2nd June, 2009 at 10:40 am  

      Did the Guardian fire you or something? You’ve been liberal bashing today. I find the guardian a very good read, some very thought out articles are found in that paper. Have you read the one about Laurent Blanc and management?

      Though I do agree, Gordon Brown should just shut up, the man should not be speaking about anything. The bumbling fool has pretty much handed the country over to the Tories come the next election.

    3. zaffer — on 2nd June, 2009 at 10:46 am  

      I do see your point Sunny, but the fact that Brown is getting off his arse to do something to stop the bnp is a good thing.

      Maybe No.10 approached the Mail and alike?

    4. cjcjc — on 2nd June, 2009 at 10:49 am  

      I saw that letter this morning and thought, well if Gordon Brown and Jimmy Carr are *both* against these BNP people, maybe I should take another look at them…!

      My second thought was, must be a spoof.

      My third thought was, where is Sunny’s name?!!

    5. marvin — on 2nd June, 2009 at 10:51 am  

      Platinum786 I am not surprised that you find the Guardian entirely congenial to you world view. And one day P786 you will realised that you can criticise ‘your own side’ and actually come out the better for it. :P You can hardly call Hundal a liberal basher.

      Good post Sunny, indeed I’m sure this letter stopped hoards of Guardian readers voting BNP! Bit bizarre. And you are right, Gordon Brown saying don’t vote BNP is likely to increase votes.

    6. Ravi Naik — on 2nd June, 2009 at 11:08 am  

      You know what will stop people voting for the BNP?

      Instead of accusing the BNP of being racist, fascist, against BMEs which doesn’t work because a) people are already racist, b) people already empathise with the BNP because they tap their concerns, c) they vote BNP as protest against the estabilishment…

      Why hasn’t anyone sent out flyers about the work done by elected BNP councillors? Even if you are racist, you are less likely to vote for someone who is lazy, incompetent and criminal.

      Most people do not vote along ideological lines, but for someone they perceive to empathise with their concerns and which are competent to do their job. You certainly can attack their competency (or lack of) - yet I have not seen any attack in that front.

    7. Tom — on 2nd June, 2009 at 11:30 am  

      ‘Why hasn’t anyone sent out flyers about the work done by elected BNP councillors?’

      There’s certainly plenty of evidence - printing a few stories off Tory Troll would be a start.

      I still think there aren’t enough racist idiots for the BNP to get very far, not that one should stop opposing them for that reason. The two best weapons against them are voter turnout and ridicule.

    8. London Muslim — on 2nd June, 2009 at 11:34 am  

      The apathy about both the Euro elections & the BNP threat particularly amongst the Muslim community concerns me.

      As a result, media “stunts” are fine with me if it improves voter turnout amongst BME communities and thus takes the bar for BNP political representation higher.

    9. douglas clark — on 2nd June, 2009 at 11:42 am  

      London Muslim,

      I’d have thought you’d also have to hope the rest of our country sees through them too. This is really not a game where Muslims are on one side and the rest of us are on another. These are evil, pernicious, little shites.

    10. munir — on 2nd June, 2009 at 11:45 am  

      Ravi Naik is right. These stunts and calling the BNP fascists and racists (which they clearly are) or even dwelling on how bad the economy would be if they got in (not really a strong argument at the moment) arent effective

      What is effective is relating to what affects or interests people in their every day lives. Apparently Searchlight’s most succesful leaflet was the England football team one which showed what an England team without its ethnic (mainly black) players would look like. Similiarly mentioning how truly incompetent the BNP has been when on councils is a good tactic.

    11. munir — on 2nd June, 2009 at 11:49 am  

      “And one day P786 you will realised that you can criticise ‘your own side’ and actually come out the better for it. You can hardly call Hundal a liberal basher”

      Yes marvin your criticism of Israel and the Jewish community are so commonplace !

    12. platinum786 — on 2nd June, 2009 at 12:14 pm  

      There was me thinking i transmit sarcasm quite well using the written word. Will have to stick to smileys…

    13. London Muslim — on 2nd June, 2009 at 12:25 pm  


      Completely agree, however, as I’m currently working campaigning predominately within the London Muslim community I was providing an insight into my worrying observation of significant Muslim apathy in London.

      As a result, an article in my blog (http://londonmuslims.blogspot.com/2009/05/third-of-european-muslims-discriminated.html) makes it clear that the Muslim community should join the Anti Racist Movement in order to fight this pernicious evil in our midst.

    14. douglas clark — on 2nd June, 2009 at 12:47 pm  

      London Muslim @ 13,

      Fair enough.

      Apathy is indeed a blight on us all.

      So, whatever you are doing to get out the anti BNP vote is OK with me. Power to your elbow, or summat!

    15. Adnan — on 2nd June, 2009 at 12:49 pm  

      And for his next trick, Sunny will do a posting containing the terms “bleeding heart” and “Moonbats”… :)

    16. Sunny — on 2nd June, 2009 at 1:46 pm  

      lol - I’m not having a go at liberals per se.

      But these sorts of anti-BNP stunts have no impact whatsoever and annoy me.

    17. Ade — on 2nd June, 2009 at 2:27 pm  

      Sunny - you need to sort out whoever does the advertising on your front page.

      Currently running with:

      How I Lightened My Skin With Nur76

      Not exactly appropriate for a progressive website, no?

      Especially after you’ve (rightly) been highlighting newspapers who take the BNP’s filthy lucre.

    18. Sunny — on 2nd June, 2009 at 2:43 pm  

      I don’t have control over those ads!

    19. john grimbits — on 2nd June, 2009 at 2:43 pm  

      vote for a united germanic europa!
      why can i only vote for english parties i want a good germanic europe party! so i have to vote for the BNP instead, rats!!

    20. john grimbits — on 2nd June, 2009 at 2:44 pm  

      there is no self just the Fatherland!

    21. zaffer — on 2nd June, 2009 at 2:48 pm  

      The Mirror today has a fantastic Hope Not Hate 4 page spread. Also, Eddie Izzards interview is spot on:

    22. Shatterface — on 2nd June, 2009 at 4:12 pm  

      The BNP is the anti-Labour party and all these stunts do is drive people who may have good reason to hate the government further into the hands of fascists by making them appear credible.

      I’d like to see the BNP starved of the oxygen of oxygen but in the meantime starving them of publicity would do.

    23. Jai — on 2nd June, 2009 at 5:04 pm  

      I’d like to see the BNP starved of the oxygen of oxygen but in the meantime starving them of publicity would do.

      Hehe. Reminds me of Nick Griffin’s recent statement that he was withdrawing from attending the garden party at Buckingham Palace “because he didn’t want to embarass the Queen”.

      My immediate reaction was: “The fact that you’re in this country and have a heartbeat is an embarassment to the Queen, you psychopathic racist idiot”.

    24. Shamit — on 2nd June, 2009 at 5:49 pm  

      How far would the BNP get if it was a strictly only anti-south asian party?

      A: very.

      Damian — I fail to see why? Could you explain please.

    25. Shatterface — on 2nd June, 2009 at 6:09 pm  

      Now they’ve been harassing worshippers at Manchester Cathedral: I think we’re actually witnessing the BNP self-destruct.

      Labour should just step back and watch.

    26. KB Player — on 2nd June, 2009 at 6:43 pm  

      What is effective is relating to what affects or interests people in their every day lives. Apparently Searchlight’s most succesful leaflet was the England football team one which showed what an England team without its ethnic (mainly black) players would look like.

      Yeah, I thought of one with pictures of Kelly Holmes, Lenny Henry, Leona Lewis and the cast of Goodness Gracious Me with the words:- Not White Enough for the UK under the BNP. (Needs updating for a younger generation I should think.)

      However, I’ve thought anyone who votes for the BNP is either an incurable racist or so grossly thick and ignorant that they couldn’t read the leaflet or would know who these people are.

    27. 5cc — on 2nd June, 2009 at 11:05 pm  

      To those wanting criticism of the BNP based on their performance - I’ve had a stab basing things on Richard Barnbrook’s woeful GLA antics to date at Why you shouldn’t vote for the BNP on Thursday.

      I hope you like it. I don’t normally plug myself not nor nuffing. Honest, guv.

    28. billericaydicky — on 3rd June, 2009 at 7:17 am  

      Let me try to clarify a few points here. The endorsements of the Searchlight initiated Hope Not Hate campaign are simply one part of an overall strategy.

      When Griffin shifted the whole direction of the BNP away from street centred activities the anti fascist movement had to do the same. The old ANL was past its sell by date with lollypops and shouting “nazi scum off our streets” when of course the nazis weren’t on the streets any more, certainly not in terms of marching.

      A long hard pook was taken at what to do and several strands were identified. The first was to ditch the old tedious traditional anti fascist leaflets which no one ever actually read.

      was also recognised that what happening in Lancashire was different to what was going on in Barking and Dagenham. The old top down type of organisation based in London couldn’t respond to the way that Griffin and the modernisers had reshaped their movement and it was recognised that there had to a local response.

      From about twenty groups across the country there are now in the region of sixty and they can all be seen on the Hope Not Hate site. Similarly the literature was redesigned so that people would actually read it. The centrepiece of the new design was an eight page tabloid with articles, competitions and a sports page with what the England team would look like in a BNP britain with all the black players removed.

      These papers were also tailored for different parts of the country. We have distributed 50 000 issues of a special Hackney edition which was written by the local campaign and this has been replicated all over the country.

      The use of celebraties is only a part of the campaign and there have been days of action in places like Dagenham were the wards of the do nothing councillors have been mass leafleted.

      The last of the leaflets and papers will go out today and then everything is in the lap of the gods and we wen’t know until Sunday when all of the results are announced at once. If we can hold them from even one seat then next year a lot of their council seats come up for reelection and we will be throwing everything at them in outer East London where sixteen of their seats are.

    29. Hantsboy — on 3rd June, 2009 at 7:35 pm  

      All this talk of BNP reminds me that there is an election tomorrow.
      Must go straight down to the polling station at sparrow fart and vote BNP.
      The bugle calls from distant shires…

    30. The culture we make « Paperhouse — on 9th June, 2009 at 9:52 am  

      [...] is useful, it solidifies purpose, it makes action possible – but it only rises above being a pointless stunt if you make it a prelude to doing [...]

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