British Hindu fundamentalists exposed


by Sunny
11th May, 2009 at 8:47 am    

Lastr week Radio 4 ran this documentary:

Navdip Dhariwal investigates the rise of Hindu fundamentalism in Britain. Hindutva – the belief that India should exclusively follow the laws and principles of the majority Hindu faith – has been evolving and developing on the sub-continent for many decades.

Navdip explores the history of the Hindu right wing in India and its power and influence within Hindu communities outside India. She asks why increasing numbers of Hindus are being drawn to the fundamentalist agenda, which some regard as anti-Muslim and anti-Christian. Her investigation leads her to British Hindus who are giving seemingly charitable donations that are, in reality, ending up in the coffers of the Hindu right.

You can listen to the doc from here. I’ll write more on this later…


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  1. munir — on 11th May, 2009 at 12:16 pm  

    This is a welcome development but some of the language is mealy-mouthed- “some regard as anti-Muslim and anti-Christian” – what the people who spew anti-Muslim and Christian hatred and organise genocidal pogroms and mosque destructions might be regarded as anti-Muslim/Christian – no never! Id recommend people to visit sites like HinduUnity and see what genodical stuff is posted on the forums there.

    Next people will be regarding the Nazis as anti-Jewish or gypsy.

    And the notion that British Hindus are giving money to extremist Hindu organistaions and are not aware that this money is reaching…extremist Hindu organistaions is pretty debatable. The BJP helped establish itself in the disapora by launching a campiagn for people to send bricks to build a temple on the Babri mosque they destroyed.

  2. qidniz — on 11th May, 2009 at 2:58 pm  

    Bloody awful. Not only is this Dhariwal nitwit clueless and incompetent, unable to pose interesting questions, but most of the interviewees’ statements were just as useless. The only one with some insightful things to say was Lord Desai, but that was hardly enough.

    The point of this doc, of course, was to reinforce some stereotypes (Narendra Modi = BJP = RSS = Gandhi killers = Evil Incarnate) carried in Dhariwal’s ignorant voice overs and “commentary” (she can’t even pronounce Bharatiya properly, FFS). To that end I suppose this load of pap was serviceable.

  3. Sunny — on 11th May, 2009 at 5:29 pm  

    Narendra Modi = BJP = RSS = Gandhi killers = Evil Incarnate

    It comes as no surprise at all that you think the RSS are lovely bunch of people.

  4. qidniz — on 11th May, 2009 at 5:30 pm  

    It comes as no surprise at all that you think the RSS are lovely bunch of people.

    PPOSTFU.

  5. inders — on 12th May, 2009 at 10:25 pm  

    I’m seriously, seriously disappointed that qidniz (or one of his number) was only comment number 3.

    I only clicked into this article to see that kind of comment as number 1.

    They’re slacking.

  6. Shamit — on 13th May, 2009 at 7:59 am  

    Qidniz — you need to get your head examined.

    Narendra Modi is a fucking criminal — and in any other country the federal Government would have stepped in during the riots in 1992 — sacked the son of a bitch and charged him with mal feasence and non feasence with criminal conspiracy. Big word for you I know.

    The Government at the Centre was BJP led (and sadly led by the only statesman BJP has ever produced Vajpayee) and the then PM was not allowed by those fuckers in RSS and BJP – not to take action against Modi. A big big electoral debacle and with Vajpayee out of the scene the credibility of the party is at its lowest ebb.

    While all of BJP is definitely not evil incarnate as long as it continues to highlight assholes and criminals like Modil as heir apparent the mother fuckers deserve to be called evil incarnate.

    You have in various threads even backed BNP trolls on this site and therefore your credibility is at its lowest ebb on this blog mate. And, you have continuously have mentioned that this blog and its commentators are wrong to put it mildly. If we are so wrong about everything, why the hell do you come on this site. As far as I know no one has forced you or paid you to do so — or are you being paid by some right wing Hinduvta group to come an convert us lot to your hateful ways.

    I am hindu and I am proud of my religion — there is no compulsion in Hinduism — and before you start talking for the Hindus do some reading. And I hate it when idiots like RSS and Modil hijack my religion for their evil agendas.

    Get it — or you too thick to do so?

  7. qidniz — on 13th May, 2009 at 9:10 am  

    you need to get your head examined

    I will take your invitation to a slanging match under advisement.

    Narendra Modi is a fucking criminal — and in any other country the federal Government would have stepped in during the riots in 1992 — sacked the son of a bitch

    You mean 2002, surely. (Chimanbhai Patel was the CM of Gujarat in 1992, Modi wasn’t even in Gujarat then.) As for sacking him, that wasn’t possible, sadly. On the political front, he should have resigned. His failure to do so is the major reason for suspecting his culpability. Proving it has been another matter entirely.

    (And if you want to know — why am I asking, obviously you don’t, but anyway — I personally do think he was culpable, but that doesn’t count for anything.)

    and charged him with mal feasence and non feasence with criminal conspiracy. Big word for you I know.

    Feasance, my dear boy. Do keep up.

    While all of BJP is definitely not evil incarnate as long as it continues to highlight assholes and criminals like Modil as heir apparent the mother fuckers deserve to be called evil incarnate.

    No one is touting Modi as “heir apparent” except anti-BJP scaremongers, for precisely the reason you give: to tar the entire BJP with the same brush. Modi is very convenient in that regard. Geddit?

    Modi in fact has never been a contender at the national level. His “popularity” is only in Gujarat. The man on the inside fast track had always been Mahajan, until he got shot. Since then, the most widely respected leader, with very good reason, has been Jaitley.

    f we are so wrong about everything, why the hell do you come on this site.

    To see first hand how the idiots think, of course. D’oh!

    before you start talking for the Hindus do some reading. And I hate it when idiots like RSS and Modil hijack my religion for their evil agendas.

    Calm down. Nothing has been hijacked.

    And read Sita Ram Goel. He was, btw, a severe critic of the RSS (and the BJP) but something tells me you not only didn’t know that, you’re already primed to disbelieve it, having read who knows what else. It’s only a measure of your ignorance.

  8. Shamit — on 13th May, 2009 at 10:08 am  

    Qidniz — Unfortunately, I have a few meetings this morning but I would be back to respond to you –

    And thanks for calling us idiots — that leaves me free to be as unkind as I could be in my response.

    But before I go, he could have been sacked by imposing Presidential Rule in the State citing breakdown of law and order — but as usual, you are not very well aware of the Indian Constitution are you —

    Why do I need to read Sita Ram Goel to know that RSS and the lot Modi is backed by have hijacked hinduism and its true sense of tolerance. Also, it is under the BJP government in Karnataka that assholes like Ram Sena have come about..

    So your arguments are flawed once again but what do you expect from someone who is clearly Asian but backs BNP trolls on this site. Stupid or what?

  9. qidniz — on 13th May, 2009 at 11:26 am  

    he could have been sacked by imposing Presidential Rule in the State citing breakdown of law and order — but as usual, you are not very well aware of the Indian Constitution are you —

    Better read up on Art. 356, son. Technically, it all starts with the governor of the state. You cannot have President’s rule without a compliant Governor. Bhandari (btw, a BJP man) didn’t move a muscle the whole time.

    Further, just the CM of a state can’t be sacked. His entire government has to go, with President’s rule. A BJP government in the center was not about to sack its entire governing apparatus in a state. (That’s why, in the event, it was better for Modi to have resigned.)

    Finally, the Ahmedabad riots were over in 2-3 days. At the point where a breakdown (of the needed kind) could have been diagnosed, law and order had already been restored. (The subsequent sporadic violence across the state for the next several months was of a different kind.)

    Trust me, you are clueless.

    Why do I need to read Sita Ram Goel to know that RSS and the lot Modi is backed by have hijacked hinduism and its true sense of tolerance.

    To find out that there is much more to Hinduphile politics than Modi or the RSS.

  10. Vikrant — on 13th May, 2009 at 11:58 am  

    before you start talking for the Hindus do some reading. And I hate it when idiots like RSS and Modil hijack my religion for their evil agendas.

    Shamit,

    I doubt it is actually possible to hijack Hinduism! Hindutva is a essentially a political movement, Savarkar (a beef eater btw) defined Hindus as people who trace their cultural (read religious) values to classical India.

    Face it a whole lot of Indians have valid reasons to support BJP, and they are not facists! BJP remains the only political party out there with a democratic internal structure as opposed to Congress which has already declared the ill educated Gandhi scion as heir apparent.

    Modi in fact has never been a contender at the national level. His “popularity” is only in Gujarat. The man on the inside fast track had always been Mahajan, until he got shot. Since then, the most widely respected leader, with very good reason, has been Jaitley.

    I doubt whether Jaitley will ever lead BJP. Modi has grown immensely in power and stature within India over last 5 years. But i doubt BJP would ever risk letting Modi be the PM candidate. They will probably lose all their allies and a lot of right of centre vote.

  11. Vikrant — on 13th May, 2009 at 12:05 pm  

    And read Sita Ram Goel. He was, btw, a severe critic of the RSS (and the BJP) but something tells me you not only didn’t know that, you’re already primed to disbelieve it, having read who knows what else. It’s only a measure of your ignorance.

    Really? I was always under the impression that Goel’s views were influenced by Golwalkar.

  12. qidniz — on 13th May, 2009 at 12:30 pm  

    I was always under the impression that Goel’s views were influenced by Golwalkar.

    Could you say how (or from where) you got that impression, please? The idea seems to have some currency, but it has no basis whatsoever.

    Goel was first a Communist, during and immediately after his student days. After meeting Ram Swarup (who had gone through a similar phase himself) he became a Gandhian — perhaps more accurately, a post-Gandhian, considering that Gandhi was dead by then. Eventually, he became a critic of most post-independence Gandhians too.

    At some point in the 60s (or perhaps a little later, I’d have to look it up, sorry) when the RSS was coming back out of the wilderness, Goel was invited to write regularly for the RSS rag, the Organiser. This got him involved in the RSS “from the inside”, but it didn’t last long. He became a virulent critic of the RSS.

    Hs basic critique of the RSS was that the organization is anti-intellectual, i.e. all it does is mindless activism. Thus, no coherent ideology, no long term goals, no strategic program, and no social vision.

  13. qidniz — on 13th May, 2009 at 12:43 pm  

    At some point in the 60s (or perhaps a little later, I’d have to look it up, sorry) when the RSS was coming back out of the wilderness, Goel was invited to write regularly for the RSS rag, the Organiser.

    Drat. I knew I should have looked this up. Turns out, it was earlier. Sorry about that.

    Here is a short biography by an unabashed admirer of Goel.

  14. Shamit — on 13th May, 2009 at 1:03 pm  

    Qidniz

    Thank you for that Constitutional lesson in #10. I was actually aware of that..well some nuances which you missed out:

    The Governor serves at the pleasure of the President of the Republic of India who s/he can recall and dismiss at any time..In effect the power lies in the hands of the Prime Minister and that is one blotch in a distinguished career that Vajapyee can’t get rid off. Not imposing President’s rule and putting Army on the streets asap and not after the entire world witnessed the carnage on TV

    *****************************************
    Vikrant

    I am not against BJP per se — I actually like Jaitley and I have actually met the man and I would love for him to be the face for BJP and the PM candidate.

    I like its democratic traditions and its one man one post rule. But I don’t like the Hinduvta group within the BJP which I think costs them votes. And Modi is the representative of that group.

    Unfortunately, with Vajpayee out of the scene — the group that gets maximum exposure is this group which is not very good for the party or for Indian democracy.

    The other blotch which the Vajpayee Government brought it upon itself was releasing the terrorists in 1999 –for which India is still paying. Its considered a soft target.

    ***************************

  15. qidniz — on 13th May, 2009 at 1:36 pm  

    I doubt whether Jaitley will ever lead BJP.

    Fair comment. He has some things going against him. He has never stood for election to the Lok Sabha (although a PM need not be a LS member). And, perhaps more importantly, the RSS has no hold on him. His background is ABVP, not RSS; and his successful (and very lucrative!) career outside politics as a lawyer has made him completely independent.

    However, hardly anything happens in the upper echelons without his input (everyone acknowledges that he is by far the most intellectually competent man in all of Indian politics) and giving him the leadership would be a coming of age for the BJP, finally rid of umbilical ties to the RSS.

    Modi has grown immensely in power and stature within India over last 5 years. But i doubt BJP would ever risk letting Modi be the PM candidate.

    The BJP, unlike the RSS, does not consist entirely of morons. ;)

  16. qidniz — on 14th May, 2009 at 10:35 am  

    Navdip explores the history of the Hindu right wing in India and its power and influence within Hindu communities outside India. [...] Her investigation leads her to British Hindus who are giving seemingly charitable donations that are, in reality, ending up in the coffers of the Hindu right.

    She finds nothing of the sort, of course. But, with careful editing (the credit for which, perhaps, should go to Mohini Patel), she manages to cast her targets as a bunch of incoherent, evasive low-lifes. (Note the hammy segment at about 15:27 where you get to hear Dhariwal announcing herself over an intercom system… to get an interview with someone who — aha! now quite “obviously” — needs to hide behind an intercom system… nudge, wink…)

    Her interviewees with “Indians” (i.e. probable bad guys) were a waste, unless the point was to showcase their generally poor English: C.B. Patel, editor/publisher of a Gujarati newspaper in the UK; Surendra Sharma, head of OFBJP (Overseas Friends of the BJP); Hasmukh Shah, Secretary of the VHP UK; Shantilal Mistry, head of SEWA International. And if the show’s promo blurb about shady dealings with charity money is to be taken seriously, then the critical interviewee clearly was Shantilal Mistry, but he didn’t appear until about 31:54 into the show and then only for about a minute, offering boilerplate denials. What did Dhariwal expect him to say, especially in view of her own introduction that SEWA had been completely exonerated by the Charity Commission of Lord Patel’s complaints?

    But this apparently was the point: To build up a case with innuendo such that by the time Mistry got to speak, the mendacity would be “clear”.

    This explains her choice of talking heads offering the “expert opinion” content of this show, framed by Lord Desai’s comments on diaspora sentiments and an introductory anti-BJP squib by one Vipul Kalyani, editor of a Gujarati magaazine in the UK. Lord Desai needs no introduction, but the rest are ciphers — well, not quite. You get to hear: Chetan Bhatt, a sociologist at Goldsmiths; Edward Simpson, an anthropologist at SOAS; Nikita Sud, a peri-doctoral associate of some sort at Oxford; and Biju Mathew of Rider University in New Jersey.

    An odd collection, and Dhariwal does not explain how she came to choose them. Which is a pity, because some of the connections could be interesting. Simpson appears as a reviewer/commentator on a number of Sud’s as yet unpublished papers; they clearly know each other. Given that Sud had nothing of substance to say, she was probably recommended by Simpson to Dhariwal, who didn’t know any better anyway. Meanwhile, Simpson was at Goldsmiths before taking up his position at SOAS; so the chances are that he was recommended to Dhariwal by Bhatt. And who is Bhatt?

    Well, remember SEWA International? In 2001, SEWA raised a lot of money for earthquake relief in Gujarat. Lord Adam Patel took part in this too, somewhat oddly in that he is a Muslim while SEWA is a project of the HSS (Hindu Swayamsevak Sangh), but perhaps communal differences were suppressed for a humanitarian cause. But then the riots in 2002 changed everything. There was simply no way for Lord Patel, a Muslim, to have any connection with a Hindu outfit. So he proceeded to publicly and volubly and vehemently dissociate himself from SEWA, and made good on his threat to report SEWA to the Charity Commission. Eventually there was a lengthy investigation.

    Other organizations got into this business too, of exposing the manifold villanies of all these crypto-fascist thieving Hindu organizations, in both the UK and the US. Up sprouted something called “The Campaign to Stop Funding Hate”. Consisting of “reports” and press releases, it was aimed at SEWA in the UK and a similar organization called IDRF in the US. The US campaign, against IDRF, was the work of an outfit called FOIL (Forum of Indian Leftists). The campaign in the UK was run by an organization called Awaaz.

    Here’s the point: Biju Mathew is a co-founder ogf FOIL, and the head of Awaaz, producing the “reports” about SEWA, was Chetan Bhatt.

    So much for disinterested, objective, academic opinion in this crockumentary.

  17. Vikrant — on 14th May, 2009 at 5:44 pm  

    Here’s the point: Biju Mathew is a co-founder ogf FOIL, and the head of Awaaz, producing the “reports” about SEWA, was Chetan Bhatt.

    So much for disinterested, objective, academic opinion in this crockumentary.

    No Teesta Seetalvads? aww…..

  18. qidniz — on 14th May, 2009 at 8:54 pm  

    No Teesta Seetalvads?

    Yeah. That would have been more honest than trying to cast Chetan Bhatt as some sort of academic, offering “professorial” definitions of Hindutva and whatnot.

    Don’t you think it could have been interesting to hear Bhatt on what happened with all those Awaaz reports on SEWA?

  19. qidniz — on 15th May, 2009 at 4:13 am  

    I’ll write more on this later

    If “this” means potential or actual misuse of charity funds, it’s certainly an important issue.

    My advice though: don’t go anywhere near those two pikers, Chetan Bhatt of Awaaz and Biju Mathew of FOIL. Neither has any credibility after their coordinated fiascos with SEWA and IDRF.

    I assume Dhariwal was duped into giving those two clowns a platform. Maybe they’re up to something, but whatever it is, the issues are better served by ignoring brazen fabricators.

  20. Vikrant — on 15th May, 2009 at 4:28 am  

    qidniz,

    You seem to know an awful lot about Hindutva for a British Indian… Did you grow up in India?

  21. Adnan — on 15th May, 2009 at 8:48 am  

    Chetan Batt’s page at Goldsmith’s.

    http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/sociology/staff/bhatt.php

    i.e. he is an academic and a Professor to boot.

  22. qidniz — on 15th May, 2009 at 12:28 pm  

    [Chetan Bhatt] is an academic

    Gee, so is Biju Mathew.

    That doesn’t endow them with auras of truth or reliability, except perhaps for political pamphleteering and how to make stuff up.

    Look up Awaaz versus SEWA, and FOIL/Sabrang versus IDRF. These two are as ugly as the shadowy figures they demonize.

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