BNP compares immigration to genocide


by Rumbold
23rd April, 2009 at 1:58 pm    

A leaked BNP document orders BNP members not to refer to “British Asians” (or other such groups), as the correct term clearly is “racial foreigners.” When defending it, Nick Griffin argued that immigration has caused a “bloodless genocide”, which presumably means that the Anglo-Saxon members of the BNP are guilty of genocide as well. Although nothing in the document was too much of a surprise, it once again helps to undermine the BNP’s image that they like to project; that of good, honest, no-nonsense stout British yeomen. Rather they are a (fairly) media-savvy group of unpleasant racists.


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  1. platinum786 — on 23rd April, 2009 at 2:19 pm  

    It was odd to see that they’d gone back to racism, when currently they were supposed to be focusing their efforts on Muslims.

  2. douglas clark — on 23rd April, 2009 at 2:48 pm  

    I see the BNP are adopting the tactics of Humpty Dumpty:

    ‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,’ it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.’

  3. Chris Baldwin — on 23rd April, 2009 at 2:50 pm  

    It’s amusing that the BNP, those scourges of ‘political correctness’ are now telling people what terms they should and should not use to refer to ethnic minorities.

  4. asquith — on 23rd April, 2009 at 2:51 pm  
  5. Shamit — on 23rd April, 2009 at 3:02 pm  

    what would be scary is if they win any seats in the European Elections?

    The far right groups are winning seats and some cases entire elections in almost all European countries. That has become almost a trend now.

    But not surprisingly, when these far right groups enter into legitimate political institutions, they are found out rather quickly and usually end up losing the next election often.

    So may be them getting into political institutions and being shown to be exactly what they are would in a way strengthen our society and democracy.

  6. Jai — on 23rd April, 2009 at 3:11 pm  

    The BBC article via the link makes it clear that Griffin is intent on using the term “British” to interchangeably mean both “nationality” and “ethnicity”.

    Leaving aside the matter of Griffin’s somewhat dubious understanding of the ethnic makeup of white Brits from a historical and anthropological perspective, he’s obviously absolutely determined to make Britain a historical and future place of residence for white people only (as per his own understanding of the concept). I’d actually call it an obsession, and not a very healthy one at that.

    “Racial foreigner”, eh. He actually means “foreign to Europe”, not just the British Isles.

    Incidentally, someone may wish to educate Griffin on the history of Indo-Iranian-Europeans and the migration of the tribes concerned in antiquity (followed by more recent movements of these groups’ descendents during the past 1000-2000 years), since he mistakenly seems to think he possesses sufficient knowledge to start shooting his mouth off about “indigenous” people, “racial foreigners” and whatnot.

  7. Alex — on 23rd April, 2009 at 3:38 pm  

    It’s his use of the term “genocide” that worries me. I’ve noticed it elsewhere too. But at least we know the BNP are racist now.

  8. Shafiq — on 23rd April, 2009 at 5:17 pm  

    I wonder whether in Nick Griffin’s world, Americans are Americans? Or what would happen to mixed-race children?

  9. Cabalamat — on 23rd April, 2009 at 5:30 pm  

    @1: “It was odd to see that they’d gone back to racism, when currently they were supposed to be focusing their efforts on Muslims.”

    I suspect there are those in the BNP who would like to cut out the racism and transform the BNP into a party against unassimilated Muslims.

    @9: “I wonder whether in Nick Griffin’s world, Americans are Americans? Or what would happen to mixed-race children?”

    The BNP’s constitution says all mixed-race people count as foreigners and should be kicked out of Britain. I’ve no idea what Griffin’s view on Americans is.

  10. damon — on 23rd April, 2009 at 5:44 pm  

    I really don’t think they deserve this much attention (though I do live in London).
    Today I had a coiple of hours to kill before I had a designated 2pm van colection in Canary Wharf.
    You can’t turn up early and park as the jobsworths on the loading bays will just not let you in (an they swab your steering wheel for explosives and have a cocker spaniel sniffer dog go round your vehicle.
    So At noon I was parked up in Whitechapel road (Brick Lane area) for the 20 minutes you are allowed for ‘loading’ – then moved to next to the East London Mosque for another 20 minutes (walking about ‘Altab Ali park’ for a bit – is their a homless alcoholics hostel near by? Some (perhaps) Bulgarian or perhaps Thraceian Turkish guys were doing a bit if that wrestling. A lovely day it was weather wise – but that bit of Whitechapel road (part of the Bangladeshi ‘Banglatown’ is a bit grim too.)

    With still time to spare I went up the back streets I’ve never actually been in before, the maze of streets between Bow and the Isle of Dogs.
    It’s all council estates, and the ammounty of people (men, but mostly women) wearing Bengali style clothing, does make me think ‘wow’ from time to time.
    Being St Georges day, there were also a few ‘England’ flags hanging from estate balconies.
    The BNP hope to profit from this kind of day to day living. I think you just have to tell then to get stuffed.

  11. Jai — on 23rd April, 2009 at 6:06 pm  

    I wonder whether in Nick Griffin’s world, Americans are Americans?

    Technically, the only “real” Americans are Native Americans. Everyone else is descended from immigrants that arrived during the past few hundred years.

    (Okay, actually Native Americans are immigrants to the American continent too, but you have to go back more than 10,000 years for that).

    Maybe Nick Griffin is suggesting that, in terms of being “indigenous”, the position of white Brits is the same as that of Native Americans — but as I mentioned in #6, the numerous waves of migration into the British Isles from mainland Europe during the past millenium and earlier significantly complicates the validity of his claims.

    If one was to call a spade a spade, Griffin actually means “indigenous to Europe”, presumably within the bounds of recorded history, as ancient migrations blow apart that particular claim of being “indigenous” too in relation to many groups.

    Stating the obvious, the guy’s just decided that white Brits are all “indigenous”, everyone else is “racially foreign”, regardless of the accuracy of his claims or the apparently arbitrary nature of the point in history he’s decided is the diving line for people being “local” or “foreign”, and that’s that. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

  12. Jai — on 23rd April, 2009 at 6:19 pm  

    Correction to the last paragraph in my post above:

    the diving line for people being “local” or “foreign”,

    Should say “dividing line”.

  13. Rumbold — on 23rd April, 2009 at 7:41 pm  

    Textual intepretation is very difficult, for the simple reason that we often don’t know the real motives behind an instruction, or a parable. We can speculate, with evidence, on this, but we can’t know definatively.

  14. SE — on 23rd April, 2009 at 7:42 pm  

    What difference does it make? These gora losers are fascist by nature.

  15. SE — on 23rd April, 2009 at 7:57 pm  

    Why change the name back? Damian Grammaticus is a cunt.

  16. Rumbold — on 23rd April, 2009 at 8:00 pm  

    I don’t think usernames like that are appropriate. You can carry on posting under any reasonable name SE.

  17. Golam Murtaza — on 24th April, 2009 at 7:57 am  

    ‘Racial foreigners’ eh? I wonder what that means for the political prospects of Sharif Abdel Gawad. He was a half Greek-Armenian, half English gentleman who stood unsuccessfully as a BNP candidate in council elections in Bradford in May 2006 and again in May 2007. Caused an amusing stir on the Stormfront website at the time. A few racial purists weren’t too impressed with his selection.

  18. damon — on 24th April, 2009 at 9:49 am  

    I wish you could edit your posts the next day – several spelling mistakes in that one I did @10.

    What I was trying to say was that for people who live in those Tower Hamlets council estates who might have BNP like leanings, I can just immagine that this idea of ethnic cleansing having some purchase. In the midst of such a large Bagladeshi population, the old back street pubs with St George’s flags hanging from them that I passed yesterday, did look somewhat out of place.

    But what saddens me more even more than to see the BNP having some marginal successes (in London) was to hear the response to a story I heard on LBC radio this morning, when (the reactionary) Nick Ferrari brought up this story of racist bullying in British schools.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8014880.stm

    He interviewed Lee Jasper on the subject and had Lee agreeing that it was terrible, and how he (Jasper) had hoped things had changed for eithnic minority pupils and teachers by now (teachers were also said to be the victims of this racist bullying).

    Ferrari never said anything to contradict Jasper and it was all very friendly.
    The reason I call Ferrari reactionary is that he knows his audience, and for the rest of the hour, caller after caller came on the show to say ‘Nick – what Jasper completely failed to say was that (in London anyway) that much of this racist bullying is black against white”.
    Or the father who took his young children out of a school that was ”95% Muslim” and after he complained to the school that his daughter had been bullied because she was a Christian – and was then spat at in the playground by other parents and called a kafir.
    Next up is the Jewish man whose children go to a Jewish school and are subject to anti jewish abuse and violence after school, from black kids from another school – with Ferrari claiming to be shocked and surprised to hear callers ring in and E-mail with such stories.

    I stress again, that he knows his audience, and it is more to the pro Boris right of politics than the other way, and Ferrari has milked this populist theme for years.
    Then when someone says that ”hopefully we’ll get a few BNP people elected in the Euro elections”, Ferrari is then able to play the calm level headed liberal by saying to the caller ”Oh no, we don’t want to go down that road of extremism. No that’s not the answer”. He may not be a BNP supporter, but he stirs up sentiments like that all the time.

    His next item was to rail agaist the song sung by school children yesterday to mark St George’s day at St Pancras where they sung about ”Fish and chips in paper, with mushy peas, balti chicken, naan bread and onion bhajis”.

    ”What the heck are nann bread and onion bhajis doing in a song to celebrate Englishness?” he growled like the former Sun newspaper hack he was.

    The guy is mischievous in a machiavelian way in my opinion. I think he helps the BNP.

  19. Bert Rustle — on 24th April, 2009 at 12:38 pm  

    Please listen to the actual program on BBC Radio 4 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jv9my which the Guardian and the Mail (or indeed the linked BBC article) refer to, as it bears little relation to these articles.

    According to Simon Darby, http://simondarby.blogspot.com/2009/04/and-lord-said-arise-thou-art-all.html#respond … [Nick Griffin] appeared on BBC radio Five’s Drive Time concerning the unearthing of another “secret BNP document” that just so happens to have been freely available online since 2005. …

    If this is true, to describe the document as “leaked” is misleading; indeed it is an implied smear.

    Does anyone have a link to this “BNP manual”?

    According to Stephen Oppenheimers work “The Origins of the British: A Genetic Detective Story”:

    http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=7817

    The genetic evidence shows that three quarters of our ancestors came to this corner of Europe as hunter-gatherers, between 15,000 and 7,500 years ago, …

    Another wave of immigration arrived during the Neolithic period, when farming developed about 6,500 years ago. But the English still derive most of their current gene pool from the same early Basque source as the Irish, Welsh and Scots. … There were many later invasions, as well as less violent immigrations, and each left a genetic signal, but no individual event contributed much more than 5 per cent to our modern genetic mix.

    There are more recent references, which I do not have to hand.

    The Bradshaw Foundation http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/stephenoppenheimer/ contains Journey of Mankind, iLecture Film
    Journey of Mankind, Genetic Map and much else besides.

  20. Anas — on 24th April, 2009 at 1:18 pm  

    Why is it that those knuckle dragging BNP supporters who go on about genetic purity and the like are always in themselves a compelling argument for greater variety in the UK gene pool?

  21. Jai — on 24th April, 2009 at 1:24 pm  

    The genetic evidence shows that three quarters of our ancestors came to this corner of Europe as hunter-gatherers, between 15,000 and 7,500 years ago, …

    Another wave of immigration arrived during the Neolithic period, when farming developed about 6,500 years ago. But the English still derive most of their current gene pool from the same early Basque source as the Irish, Welsh and Scots. … There were many later invasions, as well as less violent immigrations, and each left a genetic signal, but no individual event contributed much more than 5 per cent to our modern genetic mix.

    It’s a little more complicated than that. From the same Prospect article above:

    Celtic languages and the people who brought them probably first arrived during the Neolithic period. The regions we now regard as Celtic heartlands actually had less immigration from the continent during this time than England. Ireland, being to the west, has changed least since the hunter-gatherer period and received fewer subsequent migrants (about 12 per cent of the population) than anywhere else. Wales and Cornwall have received about 20 per cent, Scotland and its associated islands 30 per cent, while eastern and southern England, being nearer the continent, has received one third of its population from outside over the past 6,500 years…..

    …..Given the distribution of Celtic languages in southwest Europe, it is most likely that they were spread by a wave of agriculturalists who dispersed 7,000 years ago from Anatolia, travelling along the north coast of the Mediterranean to Italy, France, Spain and then up the Atlantic coast to the British Isles. There is a dated archaeological trail for this. My genetic analysis shows exact counterparts for this trail both in the male Y chromosome and the maternally transmitted mitochondrial DNA right up to Cornwall, Wales, Ireland and the English south coast……

    …..So, based on the overall genetic perspective of the British, it seems that Celts, Belgians, Angles, Jutes, Saxons, Vikings and Normans were all immigrant minorities compared with the Basque pioneers, who first ventured into the empty, chilly lands so recently vacated by the great ice sheets.

    And from Oppenheimer’s Wikipedia page:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Oppenheimer

    He also argued that the Scandinavian input has been underestimated…..

    …..Scandinavian influences, stronger than suspected, may outweigh West Germanic influence.

    A genetic difference exists between the Saxon areas of England and the Anglian areas. (Oppenheimer suggests that the so-called Anglo-Saxon invasion actually mostly consisted of an Anglian incursion.)

    English being native to east Britain might explain the lack of Celtic influence on early English and the genetic split between East and West.

    …..In Origins of the British (2006), Stephen Oppenheimer states (pages 375 and 378):

    “By far the majority of male gene types in the British Isles derive from Iberia (Spain and Portugal), ranging from a low of 59% in Fakenham, Norfolk to highs of 96% in Llangefni, north Wales and 93% Castlerea, Ireland. On average only 30% of gene types in England derive from north-west Europe. Even without dating the earlier waves of north-west European immigration, this invalidates the Anglo-Saxon wipeout theory…”

    “…75-95% of British Isles (genetic) matches derive from Iberia… Ireland, coastal Wales, and central and west-coast Scotland are almost entirely made up from Iberian founders, while the rest of the non-English parts of the British Isles have similarly high rates. England has rather lower rates of Iberian types with marked heterogeneity, but no English sample has less than 58% of Iberian samples…”

    …..He reports work on linguistics by Forster and Toth which suggests that Indo-European languages began to fragment some 10,000 years ago (at the end of the Ice Age). Oppenheimer claims that Celtic split from Indo-European earlier than previously suspected, some 6000 years ago, while English split from Germanic before the Roman period,

    All of which undermines Nick Griffin’s assertions of a homogenous, so-called “indigenous British ethnicity” and his convenient silence on the real history of migrations by various groups into the British Isles.

    Incidentally, interested parties may also wish to do a little background reading on Indo-Europeans. Nick Griffin may be somewhat disappointed to hear that many modern-day Europeans have a little more in common with some South Asians than he may have wished: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_people

  22. damon — on 24th April, 2009 at 2:07 pm  

    Jai: on your post @21.
    I really don’t think BNP types really give a monkey’s about racial purity.
    Certainly not as far as to be so worried if ”white British” people had ancestors from overseas.
    By ”overseas” I mean the waves of migration that affected these islands before the early (or mid) 20th century.
    Angles and Saxons, Vikings, Romans, Huguenots, Irish (and these days, even Jews) .. I don’t think they care that much about.
    They just want things to be like in those black and white World War Two (or post WW2) films they have grown up on – and the ideas that have come down through their families (and popularised in the common culture).
    They probably lack the empathy to try to understand the Tamil protesters in London this last couple of weeks. But I’m hardly suprised that they don’t.

  23. Ravi Naik — on 24th April, 2009 at 2:51 pm  

    Stating the obvious, the guy’s just decided that white Brits are all “indigenous”, everyone else is “racially foreign”, regardless of the accuracy of his claims or the apparently arbitrary nature of the point in history he’s decided is the diving line for people being “local” or “foreign”, and that’s that. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

    Jai, it is pointless to rationalise what Nick Griffin is saying. Nick Griffin is a racist – an irrational condition that prompts him to be offended that people like you and me live in this country. He wants a white-only Britain – it is simple as that. We all know that going back thousands of years, all of our ancestors came from Africa.

    I may be a “racial foreigner”, but at least I am not a fat arsed political pariah.

  24. Ravi Naik — on 24th April, 2009 at 2:55 pm  

    Stating the obvious, the guy’s just decided that white Brits are all “indigenous”, everyone else is “racially foreign”, regardless of the accuracy of his claims or the apparently arbitrary nature of the point in history he’s decided is the diving line for people being “local” or “foreign”, and that’s that. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

    Jai, it is pointless to rationalise what Nick Griffin is saying. Nick Griffin is a racist – an irrational condition that prompts him to be offended that people like you and me live in this country. It is simply as that. We all know that going back thousands of years, all of our ancestors came from Africa.

    I may be a “racial foreigner”, but at least I am not a fat arsed political pariah.

  25. Jai — on 24th April, 2009 at 3:05 pm  

    I really don’t think BNP types really give a monkey’s about racial purity.
    Certainly not as far as to be so worried if ”white British” people had ancestors from overseas.
    By ”overseas” I mean the waves of migration that affected these islands before the early (or mid) 20th century.

    Their ideas about “racial purity” (particularly in relation to South Asians etc, but also in relation to themselves), “racial foreigners”, “indigenous people/migrants” etc are so ignorant and backward that it’s literally like listening to a bunch of people insisting that the Earth is flat or that the Sun revolves around the Earth.

    It’s ridiculous. They don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.

    By the way, since someone earlier mentioned Americans, here’s a little bombshell which the BNP types may wish to chew over:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_American

    Admixture:

    According to a recent study, about 30% of all White Americans, approximately 66 million people, have between 2 and 20% of African admixture with an exact median of 2.3%,

    ********************************

    They just want things to be like in those black and white World War Two (or post WW2) films they have grown up on – and the ideas that have come down through their families (and popularised in the common culture).

    I think you’re right, Damon. Sometimes people have a stereotyped/idealised image in their heads and they want to force that on everyone else, regardless of how much times may have changed and regardless of the accuracy of the semi-mythologised “image”. Whether it’s to do with alleged British history and culture or indeed notions about race.

    Ironically, until the early Victorian era, Brits in general were far more relaxed and broadminded about ideas of race and “purity” — there are actually historical records of British men in the subcontinent at the time being far more worried about their mixed-race “Anglo-Indian” children suffering prejudice at the hands of other Brits in India than at the hands of the majority population back in Britain; I’m not kidding — they strongly considered sending their children to Ol’ Blighty because they felt the kids would have to deal with less racial prejudice and harrassment there.

  26. Jai — on 24th April, 2009 at 3:05 pm  

    Ravi, you’re absolutely right in #23.

    *****************************

    I’m going to post the link for that Wikipedia article on Indo-European people again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_people

    I was already aware of a great deal of the contents, and I’m sure many other people reading this are too, but it’s a very good, detailed layman’s summary of the topic. Contains a lot of information covering relevant genetic, linguistic and archeological matters, and should be required reading for people on both sides of the fence.

    Not that it’ll necessary change the minds of the really obsessed bigots, of course — they’ll just blindly carry on shouting that the Earth is flat and that you’ll fall off the edge if you sail far enough in all directions — but it’s good that this information is easily available for people who want to take a more educated and enlightened stance on life and human history.

  27. Ravi Naik — on 24th April, 2009 at 3:07 pm  

    If this is true, to describe the document as “leaked” is misleading; indeed it is an implied smear.
    Does anyone have a link to this “BNP manual”?

    You can find their manual in their website.

    I could not find any link from their website that points to the document, and quite frankly I can understand why. It is rather embarrassing that they need to coach their supporters. What other political party assumes their supporters are a bunch of hateful and angry individuals?

  28. Bert Rustle — on 24th April, 2009 at 5:32 pm  
  29. Ravi Naik — on 24th April, 2009 at 6:00 pm  

    If this is true, to describe the document as “leaked” is misleading; indeed it is an implied smear…

    There is another document linked here:

    Is it true that you are a BNP member, Bert? I would love to hear from in what other ways the BNP is being smeared.

  30. Golam Murtaza — on 24th April, 2009 at 6:10 pm  

    Interesting, Ravi. Interesting.

  31. Ravi Naik — on 24th April, 2009 at 6:23 pm  

    If Nick Griffin – and his supporters – want to classify British citizens as racial foreigners and expel them from this country (what the Nazis called racial hygiene), then I will take these people seriously if they enforce mandatory genetic tests to all citizens to determine how “British” people really are. I expect nothing less from these racial specialists.

    In fact, if they are serious about race, they should post the results of the genetic tests of ALL BNP officials in their website. It is time that we demand racial transparency from the BNP.

    Why hasn’t anyone challenged the BNP to do this? ;)

  32. Rumbold — on 24th April, 2009 at 7:08 pm  

    Ravi:

    That is an amazing idea. Hundreds of shaven-headed louts looking stony-faced as family historians reveal that they are all the descendants of an Ottoman slaver that ran aground in the 17th century.

  33. Don — on 24th April, 2009 at 7:14 pm  

    That is a stroke of pure genius. Let’s get that challenge out there.

  34. Rumbold — on 24th April, 2009 at 7:18 pm  

    Oh, and sorry Ravi. You seemed to have got caught in the spam filter a few times.

  35. Ravi Naik — on 24th April, 2009 at 7:46 pm  

    Hundreds of shaven-headed louts looking stony-faced as family historians reveal that they are all the descendants of an Ottoman slaver that ran aground in the 17th century.

    Heh. You can watch these reactions in this Channel 4 documentary “Are you 100% English?“. It is divided in 5 parts, so make sure you watch the whole lot. They managed to find a couple of racists to take the genetic test, so their reactions when the results are presented are priceless.

  36. Clairwil — on 24th April, 2009 at 11:16 pm  

    Ravi,
    That is genius. How can we make this happen?

  37. billericaydicky — on 25th April, 2009 at 11:33 am  

    It is sad to that most of those posting here still don’t understand BNP strategy and tactics or the feelings of the people who vote for them. Griffin and the leadership no longer talk of “Racial Nationalism” but “Ethno Nationalism”. Griffin knows exactly who his audience is and tailors output to target it.

    What a lot of people posting here don’t understand is that these “exposes” do not damage the BNP atall in electoral terms as most white people are very proud to have an ancestor who was a Dane or a Norwegian. People with French sounding names boast of their Huguenot ancestors and on St Patricks day everyone has an Irish grand mother, I’m greedy, I had two!

    There is an element of armchair anti fascists out there who think that if only the BNP can be exposed as nasty racists then their vote will collapse and they will vanish. Their core vote doesn’t give a toss about whether or not black and Asian people are not classed as British because that is exactly how many of them feel about the subject.

    I don’t listen to Nick Ferrari so I missed the dubious delights of Lee Jaspers pearls of wisdom. I have an old e-mail from him where he called all white people and especially anti-fascists racists and the letter where the Chief Executive of the GLA apolgised on his behalf.

    Interesting evening at the Dominion Southall last night where I was invited to speak about the death of Blair Peach. It was good to be in a hall full of Asians who remember us all with affection for coming to support them that day thirty years ago when the NF came to Southall. Loads of applause and people coming up to me afterwards with their own memories of the day.

    I think the time is now right for Lee Jasper to say sorry to the memory of Blair Peach, a man who’s boots he would not have been fit to lick. Big up Bro Lee, say sorry.

    There was a mention above about the BNP not being a threat in London, nothing could be further from the truth. They need 8 per cent to get an MEP and because the electoral system is even more favourable to them than last year in the Mayoral elections there is a real danger of them getting the 8 per cent.

    The only way to stop them is to get the vote out to dilute their per centage and although across most of East London the campaign is well organised and in Hackney we have already started leafleting there are parts of London where there is no organisation, http://www.hopenothate.org.uk willgive advice and provide targetted anti BNP material. Get in touch people, your country needs you.

  38. damon — on 26th April, 2009 at 5:14 pm  

    About billericaydicky’s second to last paragraph above.
    That was me who said that. My point is, that I don’t see it as such a big deal if the BNP did get 8% of the Euro vote and get an MEP. The sky won’t fall in.
    They’ll have someone like Barnbrook in Brussels … big deal. It won’t actually change anything in the real world.

    I would like to see the left be able to deal with BNP/Daily Mail (Nick Ferrari) type arguments, when they say that many/most Brits are not too keen on this situation in Calais (because of the things they read in the Daily Mail and Daily Express.)
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1172017/Asylum-seekers-lured-UK-enormous-benefits-says-Calais-mayor-blistering-attack-Britain.html
    And therfore might not be that supportive of introducing the Shengen Agreement etc (which would mean that the young guys from Afghanistan, Eretraia and the Kurds could just purchase a one-way ferry ticket to Dover).

    Where I’m posting from this afternoon is a first port of call for many of these young asylum seekers.
    It’s interesting to spend some time just hanging about in West Croydon. Lots of Afghan and (perhaps Kurdish) young guys hanging about in the internet cafes and just up and down the street.

    I posted this link a couple of weeks ago, but I think it’s worth repeating: In Croydon, 740 out of 1150 children (under 18′s in local authority care) are unaccompanied asylum seekers.
    http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/politics/Exclusive-Majority-children-Croydon-Council-care-asylum-seekers/article-848300-detail/article.html

    A BNP person might marry that statistic with unfortunate cultural issues like these in Turkish Kurdisatan:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/women-told-you-have-dishonoured-your-family-please-kill-yourself-1655373.html

  39. Jai — on 27th April, 2009 at 1:43 pm  

    Ravi,

    Good work in #31 etc. In fact, we can extend it further — if DNA tests for the BNP members concerned reveal even 1% of non-European ancestry within a particular timeframe (the last 1000 years ? 2000 years ?), then it should result in their immediate expulsion from the BNP and classification as “racial foreigners”.

    Good catch in #29 too, regarding “Bert Rustle”. I see that the response so far has been silence.

  40. Amrit — on 27th April, 2009 at 4:33 pm  
  41. famke yamanaka — on 5th May, 2009 at 11:36 am  

    a Germanic Europa would be a great place to live!

  42. bananabrain — on 5th May, 2009 at 11:43 am  

    not for me, it wouldn’t.

    b’shalom

    bananabrain

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