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  • Torygraph happy Labour is listening to BNP voters


    by Sunny
    21st April, 2009 at 12:30 am    

    The government are listening, says Philip Johnston in the Telegraph:

    It is noticeable how the Government is suddenly responsive to concerns that many people have voiced over many years yet about which nothing was done at the time. Recantation is all the rage. Last week, a government-commissioned study said schools were no longer able to discipline unruly children properly. It took three years to reach a conclusion any teacher could have given in three minutes. They will be saying next that spelling and grammar are important. Now we have Phil Woolas saying that immigration has been allowed to grow so high that the BNP is picking up votes; Hazel Blears has discovered that political correctness has gone too far; Jack Straw has accepted that sharing people’s private data across Whitehall might not be a good thing…

    Sounds like the Tory right are grateful the government is finally listening to the concern of BNP voters. Isn’t that nice.


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    1. pickles

      New blog post: Torygraph happy Labour is listening to BNP voters http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/4321




    1. atropos — on 21st April, 2009 at 6:13 am  

      No, Sunny. We right-wingers are grateful that some in Labour have woken up to the fact that under New Labour, working class voters have been effectively dis-enfranchised and out of sheer frustration have started to support an extremist left-wing alternative. We accept that a sizable section of the electorate will never vote other than for a left-wing party. The Erith and Thameside mess encapsulates the battle for Labour’s soul that is happening as we converse. I hope old Labour comes out on top.

      You seem to have changed your style over the past week or so. Do you put this down to your “Lord Vetinari” beard or have you had lunch at UNITE HQ and accepted an “ask”?

    2. A Very Public Sociologist — on 21st April, 2009 at 8:19 am  

      “Extremist left-wing alternative”.

      I see political illiteracy still abounds on the right.

    3. Katy Newton — on 21st April, 2009 at 8:26 am  

      As someone who is neither left nor right aligned, you are all boring me rigid with this pointless sniping. All I can see on either side are self-important tossers who are far more interested in taking juvenile pops at the other side’s perceived failings than putting their own house in order. Stop flicking V-signs at each other across the playground and start actually sorting stuff out, would you?

    4. billericaydicky — on 21st April, 2009 at 8:31 am  

      From the Libertarian left I would like to say how flattered we are that the powers that be have woken up to what we have been saying for years. If you call for “No Borders” and there is a loony left group actually called that, demand all black short lists for every elected position as long time con man Simon Wooley does and advocate discrimination against white people in employment what the bloody hell do you expect?

      Sunny’s articles sound more and more hysterical as the PC tide is rolled back. Somewhere, a couple or so years ago, a decisio wastaken that the BNP was more of a threat than anything the race relations industry could muster.

      Interesting little article in the Voice yesterday about Simon Darby and his jolly up with the Fash in Italy. There was a quote from Wolley, just about all he’s good for, ” If we are registered to vote, every black vote will have a direct say in keeping UK race hatred out of Brussels. Do we really have a choice?”

      The only problem with this of course is that in spite of more than ten years of government cash for so called voter registration drives the two boroughs nearest to his office, Tower Hamlets and Hackney, have high proportions of ethnic minorities not registered to vote.

      People are beginning to wonder where all of the money has gone. Just off around the black churches in Hackey with a special Hope not Hate leaflet about the BNP’s claim that if Jesus were alive today he would vote BNP. If anyone wants leaflets to distribute to Christian faith groups they an be obtained from by e mailing me on essexpikey@yahoo.co.uk.

    5. cjcjc — on 21st April, 2009 at 8:38 am  

      Brilliant Sunny.

      The story isn’t “Labour listening to BNP”, oh no, it’s “Tories pleased that…”.

      And is Philip Johnston a member of the Tory party anyway?

      Good thing you haven’t signed up to that Fabian blogging code thingy!

    6. Katy Newton — on 21st April, 2009 at 8:42 am  

      Actually, the story isn’t even “Labour listening to BNP”, OR “Tories listening to BNP”. If you read the article, it’s actually “Labour and Tories concerned that BNP is getting more votes”. But I can’t bear the Telegraph so I didn’t bother to make the point.

    7. Rumbold — on 21st April, 2009 at 8:59 am  

      Sunny:

      I think you are being a bit unfair on Philip Johnston. He wasn’t praising BNP policy, merely pointing out that previously the government was pandering even more to what it regarded as populist/popular concerns.

    8. Chris Baldwin — on 21st April, 2009 at 9:18 am  

      “Hazel Blears has discovered that political correctness has gone too far”

      Very useful term ‘political correctness’ - if someone uses it you know you can safely stop reading.

    9. Shafiq — on 21st April, 2009 at 9:51 am  

      Thank God for people like Katy Newton

    10. Ravi Naik — on 21st April, 2009 at 10:36 am  

      Sunny, are you really castigating a political party for listening to the concerns of a constituency? That doesn’t sound Democratic.

    11. Ravi Naik — on 21st April, 2009 at 10:53 am  

      As someone who is neither left nor right aligned, you are all boring me rigid with this pointless sniping. All I can see on either side are self-important tossers who are far more interested in taking juvenile pops at the other side’s perceived failings than putting their own house in order. Stop flicking V-signs at each other across the playground and start actually sorting stuff out, would you?

      I got that exact feeling after reading five posts titled “Nick Cohen is an arse” in one single week. I wish I was a passionate left-winger to give a damn what HP says, or vice-versa. Unfortunately, being moderate means I look at both sides, and I feel like there is some truth in what both sides say.

    12. damon — on 21st April, 2009 at 11:03 am  

      By starting out on a link that started up on Pickled Politics yesterday (maybe from Sid - I can’t remember), two links later I was on the BNP’s website - and not being somthing I look at that often, I had a quick read and soon got to this link (from the BNP site) in the Ecomomist.

      ”Pakistan and Britain
      The immigration superhighway”
      http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13497357&fsrc=rss

      I despise the BNP as much as anyone else on PP, but when I have spoken to them - it’s this kind of argument that (the more articulate amongst them) might come out with.
      And they will say (perhaps correctly) that a majority of people in Britain would be somewhat unhappy about the situation - if the question (”What do you think about this?”) was put to them.

      I know it’s a tactic whenever they do appear on radio and TV, to harangue them and keep their spokesmen on the back foot - and perhaps that’s the right thing to do - (and with the idiots like Barnbrook they put foreward it’s very easy), but I also feel that it hardends the views of people who might be inclined towards them, when they always see this tactic being used.

    13. Shafiq — on 21st April, 2009 at 12:36 pm  

      Damon,

      The difference between the BNP and the rest of the country is about how we deal with situations such as the one outlined in the Economist article.

      Whereas an ordinary BNP member would say something along the lines of ‘Get rid of the f***ing Pakis’, the more ‘open-minded’ amongst us would actively try and get people of Pakistani origin to integrate.

      The vast majority of immigrants don’t just come here, drop all their values and traditions, and become British overnight - it takes time. Sometimes as long as a couple of decades with only 3rd generation immigrants integrating properly (remember, this country spoke French for 200 years after the Norman invasion).

      What the government needs to do, is make it as easy as possible and speed it up, by:

      a) Educating both men and women properly so that they’re able to think for themselves
      b) Make it difficult for people to marry foreign spouses
      c) Encourage the de-ghettoisation of places like Bradford by supporting community-based inter-racial initiatives.
      d) Helping girls (and boys) that are blackmailed emotionally to marry someone (from Pakistan etc.) when they don’t want to. Contrary to popular thought (amongst Muslims and Non-Muslims) parents have no say in who their child gets married to, and forced marriages are invalid (under Islam) from the beginning.

    14. Jabez Foodbotham — on 21st April, 2009 at 1:10 pm  

      remember, this country spoke French for 200 years after the Norman invasion.

      This country never spoke French. Norman French along with Latin was used as a courtly and legal language for a few centuries after the conquest but it was restricted to a tiny elite and was inevitably displaced by English which had remained the language of the country at large.

    15. Shafiq — on 21st April, 2009 at 3:01 pm  

      Jabez,

      i.e. the immigrants/invaders spoke their own language (French) for 200 years and only after this time did they adopt the language of their host nation (after adding bits of their own language into it).

    16. Vikrant — on 21st April, 2009 at 7:40 pm  

      I got that exact feeling after reading five posts titled “Nick Cohen is an arse” in one single week. I wish I was a passionate left-winger to give a damn what HP says, or vice-versa. Unfortunately, being moderate means I look at both sides, and I feel like there is some truth in what both sides say.

      Exactly! Labour are being pragmatic in pandering to populist working class concerns before its too late. Labour’s primarily working class base are the one’s who are most likely to vote for BNP!

    17. chairwoman — on 22nd April, 2009 at 10:38 am  

      “(remember, this country spoke French for 200 years after the Norman invasion).”

      Only partially correct I’m afraid, Shafiq. The ruling classes indeed spoke Norman French for a couple of hundred years, but our old friends, the serfs in the lanes spoke Old English, which of course was great for inter-class communication.

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