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	<title>Comments on: The Afghanis are coming</title>
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		<title>By: Expose</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-18098</link>
		<dc:creator>Expose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beore the arrival of Islam in Afghanistan, the land was mostly Hindu and Buddhist at various times.
So is it reasonable to assume that   the Hindu&#039;s of Afghanistan must be ethnic kins of the pathans etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beore the arrival of Islam in Afghanistan, the land was mostly Hindu and Buddhist at various times.<br />
So is it reasonable to assume that   the Hindu&#8217;s of Afghanistan must be ethnic kins of the pathans etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17915</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kapoors are Hindu Pathans, Hindu-Sikh Afghans are largely Punjabis and Sindhis who migrated in 19th century. They speak Pastho though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kapoors are Hindu Pathans, Hindu-Sikh Afghans are largely Punjabis and Sindhis who migrated in 19th century. They speak Pastho though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17914</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shiva

Are they actually ethnically Pashto though? I mean, the Kapoors, are they ethnically Pathan or are they Punjabis who migrated to Afghanistan? Same question for the current Sikh and Hindu Afghans, are they descended from Punjabi migrants or are they ethnically racially Pathan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shiva</p>
<p>Are they actually ethnically Pashto though? I mean, the Kapoors, are they ethnically Pathan or are they Punjabis who migrated to Afghanistan? Same question for the current Sikh and Hindu Afghans, are they descended from Punjabi migrants or are they ethnically racially Pathan?</p>
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		<title>By: shiva</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17912</link>
		<dc:creator>shiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Afghan Hindus and Sikhs are Afghan as in Afghan Muslims or Afghan Christians. The Prithviraj Kapoor family is a Pashtho Hindu family as Dilip Kumar/Yusuf Khan and Shahrukh Khan are Pashtho Muslims.

&lt;blockquote&gt;You would be suprised how old some of these nutters are. For instance, check out this meeting of the â€˜brainsâ€™ behind that notorious cesspit of racism, hatred and general stupidity, Bharat-Rakshak.com&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bharat-Rakshak is among the best unofficial military sites on the www. Its webmasters and contributors include academics, military enthusiasts, journalists (NDTV), and even one gastroenterologist. BR meets in the US almost always host an academic from the strategic affairs faculty of the university in the city or region where the meet happens. BR had a stall at the last AeroIndia and its contributors were among the accredited correspondents at the event. Serious unofficial military sites in Europe and the Americas defer to BR&#039;s point of view on strategic issues concerning the Indian subcontinent. The open forum is a small part of BR and has its share of kooks and cretins like forums anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Afghan Hindus and Sikhs are Afghan as in Afghan Muslims or Afghan Christians. The Prithviraj Kapoor family is a Pashtho Hindu family as Dilip Kumar/Yusuf Khan and Shahrukh Khan are Pashtho Muslims.</p>
<blockquote><p>You would be suprised how old some of these nutters are. For instance, check out this meeting of the â€˜brainsâ€™ behind that notorious cesspit of racism, hatred and general stupidity, Bharat-Rakshak.com</p></blockquote>
<p>Bharat-Rakshak is among the best unofficial military sites on the www. Its webmasters and contributors include academics, military enthusiasts, journalists (NDTV), and even one gastroenterologist. BR meets in the US almost always host an academic from the strategic affairs faculty of the university in the city or region where the meet happens. BR had a stall at the last AeroIndia and its contributors were among the accredited correspondents at the event. Serious unofficial military sites in Europe and the Americas defer to BR&#8217;s point of view on strategic issues concerning the Indian subcontinent. The open forum is a small part of BR and has its share of kooks and cretins like forums anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17910</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah rite raz, Pakistani blogs/forums as if are examples of politeness. Bharat Rakshak is an Indian Army fansite, ofcourse you will get nutter there but i see nothing wrong in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah rite raz, Pakistani blogs/forums as if are examples of politeness. Bharat Rakshak is an Indian Army fansite, ofcourse you will get nutter there but i see nothing wrong in that.</p>
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		<title>By: raz</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17891</link>
		<dc:creator>raz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hinduunity people are fruitcakes, but its def not some 12yr old. I read an article a few years ago, in which the person who put that site together was interviewed. Some middle-aged nutter from America. Funny old worldâ€¦&quot;

You would be suprised how old some of these nutters are. For instance, check out this meeting of the &#039;brains&#039; behind that notorious cesspit of racism, hatred and general stupidity, Bharat-Rakshak.com:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/big_throath01/3.jpg

Check the guy on the bottom right - don&#039;t these losers have anything better to waste their lives on?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hinduunity people are fruitcakes, but its def not some 12yr old. I read an article a few years ago, in which the person who put that site together was interviewed. Some middle-aged nutter from America. Funny old worldâ€¦&#8221;</p>
<p>You would be suprised how old some of these nutters are. For instance, check out this meeting of the &#8216;brains&#8217; behind that notorious cesspit of racism, hatred and general stupidity, Bharat-Rakshak.com:</p>
<p><a href="http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/big_throath01/3.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/big_throath01/3.jpg</a></p>
<p>Check the guy on the bottom right &#8211; don&#8217;t these losers have anything better to waste their lives on?!</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17890</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2006 00:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol at Kevin Bacon! Erm, sorry mate don&#039;t know the guy. My brother, like me, crops up in all sorts of places. :)

Hinduunity people are fruitcakes, but its def not some 12yr old. I read an article a few years ago, in which the person who put that site together was interviewed. Some middle-aged nutter from America. Funny old world...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol at Kevin Bacon! Erm, sorry mate don&#8217;t know the guy. My brother, like me, crops up in all sorts of places. <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hinduunity people are fruitcakes, but its def not some 12yr old. I read an article a few years ago, in which the person who put that site together was interviewed. Some middle-aged nutter from America. Funny old world&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17882</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right so you are upset because I called those fruitbats and bigots for what they are? That&#039;s why you are irked and keep asking me creepy questions? That causes you heartburn and pain and makes me a chauvinist? What a bollocks-for-brains you are. Go and soothe your pain somewhere else and stop being silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right so you are upset because I called those fruitbats and bigots for what they are? That&#8217;s why you are irked and keep asking me creepy questions? That causes you heartburn and pain and makes me a chauvinist? What a bollocks-for-brains you are. Go and soothe your pain somewhere else and stop being silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Expose</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17880</link>
		<dc:creator>Expose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I am not Vikrant. Am sure the keepers of this blog can verify that.
Jay, As I had asked earlier - what is it that you do offline, which makes dissimlar to those &quot;keyboard warriors&quot;?
Btw, Some people may construe your remarks as chauvinistic. i.e., Sikh chauvinistic.
While I do not condone [all] the opinions on hinduunity and jihadwatch, I think twice before labelling them as hiding behind their computers. After all, isn&#039;t that what we do as well. Issue blanket condemnations ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I am not Vikrant. Am sure the keepers of this blog can verify that.<br />
Jay, As I had asked earlier &#8211; what is it that you do offline, which makes dissimlar to those &#8220;keyboard warriors&#8221;?<br />
Btw, Some people may construe your remarks as chauvinistic. i.e., Sikh chauvinistic.<br />
While I do not condone [all] the opinions on hinduunity and jihadwatch, I think twice before labelling them as hiding behind their computers. After all, isn&#8217;t that what we do as well. Issue blanket condemnations ?</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17873</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw HinduUnity is not a blog, it some whacko website put together by a 12 yr old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw HinduUnity is not a blog, it some whacko website put together by a 12 yr old.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17872</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expose is not me in case you guys are wondering....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expose is not me in case you guys are wondering&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: StrangelyPsychedelique/Kesara</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17871</link>
		<dc:creator>StrangelyPsychedelique/Kesara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I caught Sunny&#039;s brother on cam? :-O

whoa....this is the second time I&#039;ve captured someone who has a link to PP wihtout knowing it.

Who next? Kevin Bacon?

lets hope!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I caught Sunny&#8217;s brother on cam? :-O</p>
<p>whoa&#8230;.this is the second time I&#8217;ve captured someone who has a link to PP wihtout knowing it.</p>
<p>Who next? Kevin Bacon?</p>
<p>lets hope!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17869</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what if I am condescending of them? I am condescending towards all extremists - although in a certain way I think it might not be such a bad thing because it lets them blow off steam by huffing and puffing on the internet  - however the downside is that they can potentially give a false impression - the ones who shout loudest get the most attention and it does not give a true impression of communities.

Anyway, sorry if you were offended I apologise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what if I am condescending of them? I am condescending towards all extremists &#8211; although in a certain way I think it might not be such a bad thing because it lets them blow off steam by huffing and puffing on the internet  &#8211; however the downside is that they can potentially give a false impression &#8211; the ones who shout loudest get the most attention and it does not give a true impression of communities.</p>
<p>Anyway, sorry if you were offended I apologise.</p>
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		<title>By: Expose</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17868</link>
		<dc:creator>Expose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Jay - Not upset. Just curious. 
After all, you were a tad condescending towards people who frequent certain blogs - i.e., hinduunity  &amp; jihadwatch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Jay &#8211; Not upset. Just curious.<br />
After all, you were a tad condescending towards people who frequent certain blogs &#8211; i.e., hinduunity  &amp; jihadwatch.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17867</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you want to know Expose? And why? Were you upset by something I said?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you want to know Expose? And why? Were you upset by something I said?</p>
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		<title>By: Expose</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17863</link>
		<dc:creator>Expose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay - since you are so critical of &quot;those&quot; armchair/keybowrd warriors - pray, do tell us of your off line exploits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay &#8211; since you are so critical of &#8220;those&#8221; armchair/keybowrd warriors &#8211; pray, do tell us of your off line exploits.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17855</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jai &gt;&gt; www.afghanhindu.info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jai &gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.afghanhindu.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.afghanhindu.info</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17854</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never met any Afghani Sikhs myself although I know there have been quite a few recent arrivals to the UK. 

Is it true that they speak Pashtu amongst themselves, rather than Punjabi ?

Are there any major cultural differences that anyone has noticed (very broadly-speaking of course, we don&#039;t want to generalise excessively or stereotype) between Afghani Sikhs and Indian Sikhs ? How much of the local Pathan culture have they assimilated ?

How long have they been in Afghanistan for -- since Maharajah Ranjit Singh&#039;s time, or all the way back to the era of the Sikh Gurus ?

Lots of questions, I know, but this is an interesting topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never met any Afghani Sikhs myself although I know there have been quite a few recent arrivals to the UK. </p>
<p>Is it true that they speak Pashtu amongst themselves, rather than Punjabi ?</p>
<p>Are there any major cultural differences that anyone has noticed (very broadly-speaking of course, we don&#8217;t want to generalise excessively or stereotype) between Afghani Sikhs and Indian Sikhs ? How much of the local Pathan culture have they assimilated ?</p>
<p>How long have they been in Afghanistan for &#8212; since Maharajah Ranjit Singh&#8217;s time, or all the way back to the era of the Sikh Gurus ?</p>
<p>Lots of questions, I know, but this is an interesting topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/432#comment-17853</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Afghan Hindus and Sikhs numered aroun 40000-50000 in 1981. Now their numbers have dwindled to 1200. As there people primarily speak Pashto i think they had difficulty in integrating in India. Morever India&#039;s stupid citizenship laws make it mandatory for them to live in India for 12 years b4 getting a citizenship, i guess nobody would be THAT patient. There are about 30000 of them in Germany, actually i was surprised to see 2 Hindu temples in Colonge are run by Afghans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Afghan Hindus and Sikhs numered aroun 40000-50000 in 1981. Now their numbers have dwindled to 1200. As there people primarily speak Pashto i think they had difficulty in integrating in India. Morever India&#8217;s stupid citizenship laws make it mandatory for them to live in India for 12 years b4 getting a citizenship, i guess nobody would be THAT patient. There are about 30000 of them in Germany, actually i was surprised to see 2 Hindu temples in Colonge are run by Afghans.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you guys please stop bickering. Let&#039;s talk about afghani sikhs please? 
Vikrant - didn&#039;t know germany granted asylum to many of them... I wonder how many actually left the country since many of them went to India too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you guys please stop bickering. Let&#8217;s talk about afghani sikhs please?<br />
Vikrant &#8211; didn&#8217;t know germany granted asylum to many of them&#8230; I wonder how many actually left the country since many of them went to India too.</p>
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