Comments on: Outsourcing the oldies back home

By: Don

Don — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:20:13 +0000

Outsourcing oldies is already up and running;

http://www.paradiseretirementvillages.com/

By: Vikrant Singh

Vikrant Singh — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:27:18 +0000

Dont u mean outsources oldie care.

By: Sunny

Sunny — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:22:47 +0000

You know ageism is the biggest problem in this country, ahead of sexism and racism… and it’s going to get worse. Outsource the oldies, that’s what I say! Just kidding.

By: StrangelyPsychedelique/Kesara

StrangelyPsychedelique/Kesara — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:21:48 +0000

So what he saves a few quid. I mean like someone HAS to buy reduced price stuff.

Minimal nutritional value…but then does it matter?

Oh dear – ageism!

By: Roger

Roger — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:58:11 +0000

Read These Foolish Things by Debra Moggach for a fuller consideration…

By: Vikrant Singh

Vikrant Singh — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:30:59 +0000

after being put on the reduced shelf on itâ€™s use-by date.

Well at my local Sainbury’s (my town doesnt have a tesco), they put the food thats on its display-by date.

By: SajiniW

SajiniW — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:42:41 +0000

Tesco value bread is fucking nasty. Especially when it’s half-gone off anyway after being put on the reduced shelf on it’s use-by date.

By: Vikrant Singh

Vikrant Singh — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:46:00 +0000

Not only does the Cvunt buy tesco value – he buys it off the reduced shelf too.

So what he saves a few quid. I mean like someone HAS to buy reduced price stuff.

@Rohin: So good tah see u back.

By: Refresh

Refresh — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:18:10 +0000

One of the main problems behind the private care homes disaster is the greed that goes with it.

I’ve long advocated that the homes should be run on a co-operative basis, where the trustees (the ‘board’) is made up of relatives of the residents.

My experience of the homes is that they are not universally bad – those run by the local authority are much better monitored. The private ones are run by people out to make money.

There are similar ‘social’ ventures where the national care standards authority monitors and certifies workers within private institutes – but never get behind the scenes to see the disgusting exploitation of their workers. These attitudes filter through to the care given.

Never settle for social care for any of your family where the workers are paid a pittance.

Better still, stop the outsourcing of care.

If you must, then get together with others of like minds, with family that need caring and set one up. Forget making money, but be satisfied that you are doing the right thing.

By: leon

leon — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:04:44 +0000

It’s a sad situation but one that must be faced none the less. The idea looks good but I can’t help feel we’ll see stories in a few years detailing the corruption/abuse of residents as seems to crop up with elderly peoples homes…

By: StrangelyPsychedelique/Kesara

StrangelyPsychedelique/Kesara — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:40:46 +0000

I think its a fantastic idea and there have been quite a few retirment home ideas that have been launched over the last decade or so. Many have been fairly upmarket or were less holistic in their appeal (more nursing home per se than ‘progressive aging facility – sounds like something outtta Half Life).

By: SajiniW

SajiniW — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:50:11 +0000

I’ve seen the provider (Sri Lankan) of my local nursing home shopping in Tesco. Not only does the Cvunt buy tesco value – he buys it off the reduced shelf too.

People shouldn’t get mugged of their property to have such substandard treatment.

By: Rohin

Rohin — Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:41:18 +0000

This is an old idea. In fact, I think I can take credit for it. Yes, me. I want the cash, not Sunny. Years ago when outsourcing was a new word, I wrote a little article and ended it by saying wouldn’t it be funny if British people (not necessarily Asians) outsourced their old folk to India? I suggested a hillstation with a nice climate and cheap labour – perfect. Nice food, English-speaking doctors if need be, English-speaking staff and lovely scenery. Beats Southend.

Et voila.

I’m sure some of you know the HUGE money-spinner that nursing homes and care homes in the UK are. Many are Asian-owned and many, in my opinion, are shockingly substandard. It’s been a side-business for countless Asian GPs for years and plenty of GPs I know earn far more via their homes than via the NHS. Yet it’s never been something I would like to be involved with – I find the callous attitude a lot of owners have to their homes disgusting. If you can’t trust a home a few miles down the road to look after your parents, you really think sending them a few thousand miles away is a better idea? No one to check up on them? Good God you’d be mad.

The last issue you raise is very interesting Sunny. The elderly population is rapidly on the rise both here (not HERE, I mean the UK) and in India. What will happen to the post-retirement population over the next few decades is anyone’s guess.