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    Nutjob Republicans


    by Sunny on 18th April, 2009 at 4:43 am    



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    1. atropos — on 18th April, 2009 at 7:32 am  

      Sounds about right to me. Progressive liberal fascination (sic) with Mussolini is a matter of historical record. Cole Porter’s original line in a song “you’re the tops, you’re Mussolini”, hastily re-written the day after the invasion of Ethiopia, is historical fact. Lenin and Trotsky’s approval of the young Mussolini’s methods of silencing opposition is a historical fact. What’s your beef?

    2. marvin — on 18th April, 2009 at 11:01 am  

      Agreed atropos.

      Fascism was always a progressive movement, revolutionary in fact, against the conservative ancien régime, destroying the aristocracy, the capitalists, all about the workers. Mussolini was a demi-god amongst the progressive movement world-wide.

      Fascism; national socialism, was simply populist left wingism. The left that wishes bankers go hang themselves - they are the fascists. No two ways about it. The true left are by definition unstable and yearn revolution.

      That the liberal-left are in denial is worrying indeed atropos.

      Lefties you may now take your fingers out of your ears ;)

    3. dave bones — on 18th April, 2009 at 11:14 am  

      My Republican buddies love the GlenBeck. He is hilarious. I love it when he cries about how much he loves America.

    4. Shafiq — on 18th April, 2009 at 2:04 pm  

      I love the hypocrisy of Republicans:

      Demonstrating against George Bush and hoping he failed was treasonous, whereas demonstrating against Obama and hoping he fails is a ‘patriotic duty’

      And it’s hard to take them seriously when they’re having ‘tea-bagging’ parties.

      I’d define Fascism as authoritarian populism, which would mean that many right-wingers, as well as some left-wingers, are fascist in nature.

    5. Sunny — on 18th April, 2009 at 2:40 pm  

      You know you’re crazy when you start agreeing with Glenn Beck! Nuff said!

    6. soru — on 18th April, 2009 at 2:49 pm  

      I think the best bit is where he showed liberal approval of Fascism by quoting that notorious leftist, Winston Churchill.

      Before 1939, all types of people were less appalled by fascism than they were after 1945. Some of them were liberals and leftists, but it hardly needs saying that vastly more, and many times more significant, were respectable conservatives. Those who felt that the great German/Italian Nation was abandoning the principles held by its founding father, Bismarck/Garibaldi, and slipping into mere rabble-rousing democracy, bread and circuses, even socialism…

      If a few windows, or heads, needed to be bashed in to get things back on track, then, in their view, so be it.

    7. The Common Humanist — on 18th April, 2009 at 7:36 pm  

      “”That the liberal-left are in denial is worrying indeed atropos.

      Lefties you may now take your fingers out of your ears”"

      Do you really really believe stuff like this???
      Bizarre.

      Glenn Beck is, well, mad. Amazing how Obama is a fascist/socialist/commie (depending on mood of Wingnut stating it) but somehow BushCheney Torture Regime, suspending chunks of the US constitution is the height, the height I tell you, of patriotism.

      Morons the lot of them.

    8. marvin — on 18th April, 2009 at 10:38 pm  

      The Common Humanist do you know anything, at all, about National Socialism? Are you aware, that it is

      a) Nationalist

      b) Socialist

      What’s you contention that it’s right-wing? When it was happening they said it was the Third Way, neither left not right. I think that’s reasonably accurate. The organisation of society by the state, as if if the state can cure the countries ills, that’s pretty damn socialist.

      Prior to the holocaust ant-Semitism was rife with communists. The Jews were seen as the original capitalists.

      Conservatism is generally about preserving the status quo, being sceptical of change, and certainly against violent revolution.

      I am not familiar with Glenn Beck, he may well be a bit of a nut job. I don’t think Obama or the Democrat party is fascist or communist, they are pretty centrist. The Americans would have it no other way. There are some mildly socialist tendencies, but the US is of course always to the right of Europe anyho.

      I am just saying that fascism was originally thought of as a socialist and progressive movement. It was all about the workers, Mussolini and Hitler hated the aristocracy and the capitalists. They were pretty big on big state control too, apparently.

      Just because today progressives are like totally against racism and stuff doesn’t mean therefore fascism = conservatism!

      The issue nowadays is that there are left wingers who ally themselves with racist murderers. Terrorism has always been romanticised by the left, so embracing terrorists is not a big step… But I digress.

    9. Vikrant — on 19th April, 2009 at 8:07 am  

      Ok, i was in a karaoke bar in southern Illinois, yeah despite Obama, except for Chicago the state might as well be in deep south. Anyways everyone was watching Glenn Beck SERIOUSLY! He said something really asinine about great depression, and i was the only one laughing haha. Its surreal to watch this shit with people who actually buy it!

    10. Vikrant — on 19th April, 2009 at 8:09 am  

      To think of it, this guy NEVER went to college and calls himself “self educated” man haha…

    11. Ravi Naik — on 19th April, 2009 at 10:07 am  

      The Common Humanist do you know anything, at all, about National Socialism? Are you aware, that it is
      a) Nationalist
      b) Socialist

      You are making the rather embarrassing mistake of confusing economic socialism with progressive liberalism. The latter has been in the forefront of the civil rights movements, and fighting for a society that provides equal opportunity to all, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation etc. This has absolutely nothing to do with nazism, in case you did not know.

      It is true that nazis and communists are both socialists, and anti-capitalists, and in the 20th century, they formed totalitarian regimes, where the state trumped individual rights. But it is dishonest or ignorant to claim there is a link between these extreme ideologies, and the progressive movement.

    12. Naadir Jeewa — on 19th April, 2009 at 11:52 am  

      The National Socialists were not movements of the left. They were anti-communist, anti-left by definition.

      The only thing the national socialists share with the progressive left is the use of Keynesianism to get Germany out of hyperinflation. Which oddly, the far left were refusing to carry out, if only to heigten the contradictions of capitalism and bring it down.

      The definition of fascism is (from Michael Mann’s Fascists):

      1. Organic cleansing nationalism rooted in anti-diversity and is at least veering towards racism.

      2. Statism as the bearer of a moral project. Both corporatist and authoritarian. I.e. not just as a provider of municipal services.

      3. Deflected transcendentalism. The nation-state transcends class conflict as a unifying concept. Their political centre lies outside of the economy, and thus they respected the authority of the captains of industry (as long as they produced what they wanted, i.e. weapons).

      4. Paramilitarism. Fascist movements are grounded in military ideology, and grows from the discontent of members (current or former) of military forces.

      The Italian fascists are a product of the left on in as much as they were a reaction to the failure of leftist politics at the time. Gramsci did write in Mussolini’s political journal but disowned them once Mussolini’s project became clear.

      The progressive left meets none of the criteria, and only the far left would be close to #2. Even still, the left wish to protect individual rights to a private life (i.e. abortion rights, lgbt rights) in a way inconsistent with fascist ideology, which does not mark a different between left or right. The other features are more characteristic of the far right, not to mention that the US intelligence services are worried about the impact of returning troops in an economic downturn.

    13. Naadir Jeewa — on 19th April, 2009 at 11:52 am  

      The National Socialists were not movements of the left. They were anti-communist, anti-left by definition.

      The only thing the national socialists share with the progressive left is the use of Keynesianism to get Germany out of hyperinflation. Which oddly, the far left were refusing to carry out, if only to heigten the contradictions of capitalism and bring it down.

      The definition of fascism is (from Michael Mann’s Fascists):

      1. Organic cleansing nationalism rooted in anti-diversity and is at least veering towards racism.

      2. Statism as the bearer of a moral project. Both corporatist and authoritarian. I.e. not just as a provider of municipal services.

      3. Deflected transcendentalism. The nation-state transcends class conflict as a unifying concept. Their political centre lies outside of the economy, and thus they respected the authority of the captains of industry (as long as they produced what they wanted, i.e. weapons). Therefore power is deflected onto a struggle between the fascists and individuals and “ethnic aliens”. This was rooted in the notion that people should not have a private life at all, but should be completely publically controlled.

      4. Paramilitarism. Fascist movements are grounded in military ideology, and grows from the discontent of members (current or former) of military forces.

      The Italian fascists are a product of the left on in as much as they were a reaction to the failure of leftist politics at the time. Gramsci did write in Mussolini’s political journal but disowned them once Mussolini’s project became clear.

      The progressive left meets none of the criteria, and only the far left would be close to #2. Even still, the left wish to protect individual rights to a private life (i.e. abortion rights, lgbt rights) in a way inconsistent with fascist ideology, which does not mark a different between public or private. The other features are more characteristic of the far right, not to mention that the US intelligence services are worried about the impact of returning troops in an economic downturn.



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