Lord Nazir-Ali booted off


by Sunny
29th March, 2009 at 2:33 pm    

Excellent news! Last year I asked: Is it over for Bishop Nazir-Ali? Well, yes, it is now. Glad to hear this bigot has been booted from the Church of England.

It’s also typical of the right-wing press that they have faithfully repeated the meme that Lord Nazir-Ali received death-threats for saying that Britain had created ‘Muslim no-go areas’. He didn’t receive any death threats. Furthermore, when asked where the no-go areas where, Nazir-Ali could not actually name a single one. Good riddance to a fool.


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  1. Ravi Naik — on 29th March, 2009 at 2:48 pm  

    Is Nazir-Ali a Lord?

  2. Rumbold — on 29th March, 2009 at 2:54 pm  

    He sits in the House of Lords as one of the 26 Lords Spiritual.

  3. The Cat — on 29th March, 2009 at 2:58 pm  

    Right-whingers will be upset. Isn’t he one of the people Donal Blaney uses as a stick to beat liberals with?

    Get ready for some serious moaning from the usuals.

  4. fug — on 29th March, 2009 at 3:08 pm  

    he’s stepping down to concentrate on converting muslims. maybe he will get clg funding

  5. Sunny — on 29th March, 2009 at 4:20 pm  

    the cat – yup! No doubt it’s a plot driven by death-threats issuing Muslims!

  6. billericaydicky — on 29th March, 2009 at 4:35 pm  

    Let ufirst define what we mean by no go areas. During the 1970s there were no go areas for Asians, that of course in this case means Bangladeshis, in East London. It didn’t mean that it was like that all the time and racial attacks usually took place at night and at week ends or at times of heightened racial tensionsuch as when National Front activity was going on.

    During the 70s Brick Lane north of the Bethnal Green Rd was dangerous territory for Asians. The Blade Bone pub on the Bethnal Green Rd was an NF hangout and the further north you went into what is now trendy Hoxton full of people like Boy Gearge and junky singers with bands like Babyshambles were areas that had very high NF votes.

    Similarly places like Poplar and the Isle of Dogs were areas that it was very likely that Asians would be attacked. During this period the Bengali Housing Action Group, formed and led by people like Terry Fitzpatrick, Mala Sen, she of “Bandit Queen” fame, Farrukh Dhondy who was the first Commissioning Editor Ethnic Minorities for Channel 4 and Tower Hamlets Cll Abbas Uddin, took families under attack in these, then, outlying areas and squatted them in safe areas around Brick Lane.

    Today the circle has turned full and there are places that, at certain times of the evening and night, are unsafe for white people. It is only my command of Shyleti taht had saved me from muggings on several occasions when I have been told that I am in a Bangla area.

    The area south of Commercial Rd around Watney Market and Cannon St Rd are the scene of regular attacks on white people. The majority of racial attacks in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets are Asian on white, is there anything about that that people do not understand?

    On the Boundary Estate where Tower Hamlets meets Shoreditch there have been a sustained series of attacks by Bangladeshi youths on gay people who are being told to get out of the area. We are talking sustained beatings by gangs of young Bengali men on individual white people with the results being in some cases people left in intensive care.

    All this comes from a number of sources. One of course is the perceived wealth that white people are supposed to have over Asians. That led to muggings of people going to the restaurants.

    Then we have the Islamic anti white filth that is being pumped out of the East London Mosque and the Islamic Centre next door which has led to attacks on a Synagogue and the painting of “Kill the Jews graffiti” around Brick Lane.

    Tower Hamlets Labour Party, currently under the control of IFE has diverted money under the Preventing Violent Extremism (PVE)progamme to groups which are actually carrying out the painting of the anti semitic graffiti.

    I am afriad that Pickled Politics is infested with the same white haters that staffed the CRE for so long. Anyway Sunny boy, my offer at a free curry and a chat with real East Enders both white and Asian still stands. Cafe Bangla, 128 Brick Lane, the curry and the Cobras are on me.

  7. Martin — on 29th March, 2009 at 4:35 pm  

    I can’t understand the comments above this. Presumably the correspondents have English as a second language.

    Nazir- Ali is a brave man, & unlike the gutless Archbishop of Canterbury
    knows that islamism & sharia law are the distillation of evil & have no place in a civilized society

    Martin

  8. marvin — on 29th March, 2009 at 4:39 pm  

    Bravo to Nazir. A Lion amongst sleeping dogs.

    That ‘progressives’ attack a man to work for the underdog, non-Muslims in fascistic countries, speaks deafening volumes about the state of the ‘left’. Viva revoluzion!

  9. Refresh — on 29th March, 2009 at 5:05 pm  

    If I might offer a correction Marvin:

    ‘A Liar amongst sleeping dogs.’

  10. Sunny — on 29th March, 2009 at 5:16 pm  

    As the DJ on an old drum n bass track might say: L-L-L-LATERZZZZZ!

  11. blah — on 29th March, 2009 at 6:16 pm  

    Seems the C of E is a non-go area for everyones favourite bigoted brown bishop

  12. blah — on 29th March, 2009 at 6:25 pm  

    marvin
    “Bravo to Nazir. A Lion amongst sleeping dogs.”

    what do you mean?

    “That ‘progressives’ attack a man to work for the underdog, non-Muslims in fascistic countries, speaks deafening volumes about the state of the ‘left’.”
    .

    Except that Nazir-Ali spends most of his time demonisning the Muslim minority in THIS country.
    Why should progressives support such a person?
    You seem to be keen on minority rights except when its Muslims who are the minority/underdog. Must be your HP training.

    Pakistan is a fascist country? Thats a new one

  13. blah — on 29th March, 2009 at 6:31 pm  

    Martin

    “Nazir- Ali is a brave man, & unlike the gutless Archbishop of Canterbury
    knows that islamism & sharia law are the distillation of evil & have no place in a civilized society”

    Martin Luther is a brave man unlike the gutless Archbishop of Berlin and knows that judaism & jewish law are the distillation of evil & have no place in a civilized society

    Dilwar Hossein Sayyidi is a brave man unlike the gutless Governemnt clerics in Bangladesh and knows that Hinduism & hindu law are the distillation of evil & have no place in a civilized society

    Mufti X is a brave man unlike the gutless Mufti of Pakistan and knows that christianity & christian law are the distillation of evil & have no place in a civilized society

    etc

  14. Ros — on 29th March, 2009 at 6:51 pm  

    Good riddance I say.
    Nazir is a Christian of Pakistani origin but like most blacks and browns in positions of authority dared not criticise the whites in power.
    So we have Nazir slamming the Muslims BUT NEVER THE ISRAELIS or the US policies in the Mideast.
    Likewise the African C or E Archbishop John Sentamu denounces fellow African Mugabe BUT NOT THE ISRAELIS nor the Americans.
    This culture of cowardice in the face of establishment power has long been a trait among Christian senior figures. The Pope has lectured the Africans and Asians but never western leaders. AMEN

  15. chairwoman — on 29th March, 2009 at 7:29 pm  

    Perhaps ‘Ros’ they don’t share your opinions.

  16. John — on 29th March, 2009 at 8:34 pm  

    Kent Police think he has received death threats. As to no-go areas, I used to live near one. It depends what you mean by ‘no-go’, but certainly if white kids went to play in the Council playground nearest the Mosque, they were told it was “an Asian playground” and it was made clear they weren’t invited. Otherwise it depended what you were doing, what time of day, and who was around. I have no doubt it goes on the other way too, of course.

  17. cjcjc — on 30th March, 2009 at 8:06 am  

    PP is not “infested” with “white haters”, but Sunny is clearly in denial about certain things.

  18. Golam Murtaza — on 30th March, 2009 at 8:46 am  

    ‘No go areas’ is an unhelpful term I think. It seems to imply neighbourhoods which are totally physically impossible for people of the ‘wrong’ ethnicity to enter. Almost like there are roadblocks in place manned by masked gunmen.

    It is more correct to say there are many rough areas in urban Britain which are risky for people of a particular race to walk (or even drive) through at certain times of day. And there are other areas which might be safe for them to pass through but not too safe to actually live in. It’s a more complex, nuanced picture than the words ‘no go’ suggest.

  19. billaricaydicky — on 30th March, 2009 at 9:28 am  

    Golam Murtuza,

    I think you have encapsulated what I was saying about a particular area. The whole thing is more nuanced than Nazir Ali says but that does not undermine the essential truth of what he is saying.

    Didn’t take long for someone to get round to slagging off the Israelis and Jews.

  20. Refresh — on 30th March, 2009 at 9:41 am  

    ‘the essential truth of what he is saying.’

    The essential truth of the game he was playing was to be divisive, contrary to the general character of this country. He was bringing in communalism in the most disgusting of ways. Which no doubt was manna to the likes of the BNP.

    You of all people should know that!

    No point you going out on reconaissance missions and delivering anti-BNP leaflets if you can’t see what this man is about.

  21. persephone — on 30th March, 2009 at 9:53 am  

    “I am afriad that Pickled Politics is infested with the same white haters that staffed the CRE for so long.”

    Please substantiate this claim.

    NB personally I have never been part of the CRE

  22. Shamit — on 30th March, 2009 at 10:10 am  

    “Hinduism & hindu law are the distillation of evil & have no place in a civilized society”

    Nice one blah.

    Now, go back to the gutter where you came from

  23. damon — on 30th March, 2009 at 10:33 am  

    Nazir-Ali is a fool I think it should be fair to say.
    Billaricaydicky makes some very detailed and local claims that I’m sure the former Bishop of Rochester has no clue about.

    Does the Bishop know about places north (or south) of Bethnal Green Rd? He talked about these ”no go areas” .. but what was the point in him talking up publicly the way he did? It just made things worse (in my opinion).
    But I’m pretty sure it’s the case that white thugish racists can’t push their weight around in some areas like they once did. I still remember some NF blokes selling their rubbish at the north end of Brick Lane on a ”weekly paper sale”. I’d think it’s a bit of a ”no go area” for them now.

    Whether some Bangladeshi youth have now become as anti-social and as ready for random acts of violence against anyone they take a passing dislike too (like their white predecessors did 20 years ago) – I don’t know if that is proven one way or the other.

    Walking along the easten end of Bethnal Green Road after the Brick Lane festival last year (or the year before)it was strange to go past a pub in which it was an early summer evening, the doors were wide open, and the place was packed out with white cockney type people who were in the middle of a karaoke session.
    As I stopped to look in for a few moments (and remember where I had just come from), the framed portrait of Ronnie and Reggie Kray up on the wall made me laugh inwardly.
    It was the juxtopisition of cultures. (Not a laughing matter really, but it was just a surprise to see the Kray Twins like that. Was it an ”ironic” thing?)

    Anyway, Nazir-Ali?.. good riddince

  24. cjcjc — on 30th March, 2009 at 11:16 am  

    blah was being parodic there

  25. Raja Sahib — on 30th March, 2009 at 12:53 pm  

    I read somewhere that Bishop N-A’s father was a Shia Muslim from Karachi who converted (his family also) to Catholicism. Then N-A converted again to C of E.

    In my humble opinion, I believe N-A’s views on Muslims are part “neo-con” western-centric “Judaist-Christian” (like Rev Patrick Sookhdeo)and part “choorays” revenge. “Chooray” is a deregatory (Punjabi) term for the discriminated against “low” caste millions in Pakistan & Northern India.

    blah, I appreciate what you’re saying. He’s no more an expert on Islam than Karl Marx is on Judaism.

    He also appears to be Melanie Phillips’favourite Christian:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1165719/MELANIE-PHILIPS-When-bishop-leave-Church-England-stand-Christians-hope-left-Britain.html

    I would like to contrast him with Sikh convert to Methodism Rev Inderjit Bhogal. Rev Bhogal appeared to be more interested in promoting positive interaction between faith groups in the UK.

  26. Shafiq — on 30th March, 2009 at 1:53 pm  

    I think Nazir-Ali’s a fool.

    His claims about certain areas being no-go areas for white people has been heard many times before – the most recent one that I can remember is when a BNP Wife claimed that a neighbourhood near me was rife with crime and unsafe for white people because it was 90% Muslim.

    All three of those accusations were false, seeing as:
    - the neighbourhood is one of the safest in the town,
    - not a single white person has been attacked in the area in at least the last decade, and
    - the area is nowhere more like 50% Muslim.

  27. billericaydicky — on 30th March, 2009 at 8:29 pm  

    Still waiting for Sunny to accept the curry and Cobra.

  28. billericaydicky — on 30th March, 2009 at 8:31 pm  

    Shafique,

    Be specific, which areas are you talking about with dates and times.

    Damon, what are you on about or what are you on?

  29. damon — on 31st March, 2009 at 2:02 pm  

    billericaydicky, I’m not sure what you mean by this:
    ”Damon, what are you on about or what are you on?”

    My first three paragraphs were pretty straight foreward I thought (asking where Nazir-Ali might think that thes so called no-go areas for white people might be). I can’t say I’ve experienced any or heard of any in the South East of England. But have read some things about some places like Oldham and Burnley (that I’ve never been to) that might have some particular unfortunate (local) situation going on.

    My point was that some areas of the East End where attacks on people of Asian origin were common (and blatant) in the past, have now had a change in demography – and things aren’t so easy for white NF or BNP supporting thuggish types.

    For example, I used to know a couple of (white) people who were activists in the East London area who used to even spend nights sleeping on the living room floors of people who were (then) immigrants from South Asia, in Tower Hamlets and Newham, to try to defend them from atacks from thel (casual friday night after the pub) attacks from local white racists.
    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=5P9A1R1ggakC&dq=under+siege+keith+thompson&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=sxzoqhWq7n&sig=Mf7m46ttO09olfDi9fN_o19O9d8&hl=en&ei=qh3SScCrM8KTjAeOwKj1Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPR1,M1

    My point was that the situation on the ground has changed in different areas, and that a ”racist pub” in a place like Barking Road (where attacks like that were still coming from today) – would not get away with things so easily.

    Though i’m sure the situation might just have shifted a bit further out to Dagenham, and places further east into Essex.
    The same South of the river, with Lewisham being a place that the BNP would be crazy to try to march through today, but they might have an easier time of it in places like Swanley and Dartford.

    But to come across a pub in Bethnal Green Road that has a portrait of the Kray Twins on the wall IS a bit bizarre in my opinion. And a fair point to make I would have thought. It’s just observation and opinion.

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