Comments on: How the Indo-Pak rivalry is harming Wikipedia http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395 Current affairs for a progressive generation Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:02:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Sunny http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-18343 Sunny Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:40:25 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-18343 Heh, don't worry Bengalis are more than welcome! They don't get into any India v Pakistan online arguments, so we prefer them ;) Heh, don’t worry Bengalis are more than welcome! They don’t get into any India v Pakistan online arguments, so we prefer them ;)

]]> By: Shob http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-18326 Shob Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:27:45 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-18326 I've recently discovered this site and I LOVE IT! regarding the current article...I'm just glad I'm Bengali :D (damn...i dont know whether I should have said that here, theres probably someone typing up some lame bengali-fish jokes : S ) I’ve recently discovered this site and I LOVE IT!
regarding the current article…I’m just glad I’m Bengali :D (damn…i dont know whether I should have said that here, theres probably someone typing up some lame bengali-fish jokes : S )

]]> By: Sunny http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-17097 Sunny Mon, 03 Apr 2006 20:26:15 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-17097 True true.... all good points made folks. India-Pak are not the only rivalry going but given the huge amounts of them on the internet I'm sure they pose a bigger problem... now and in the future. And Pak has not blocked wikipedia, it was just a temporary thing :p True true…. all good points made folks. India-Pak are not the only rivalry going but given the huge amounts of them on the internet I’m sure they pose a bigger problem… now and in the future.

And Pak has not blocked wikipedia, it was just a temporary thing :p

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » India, Pakistan: Killing the Wiki http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-17090 Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » India, Pakistan: Killing the Wiki Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:39:53 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-17090 [...] The impact of Indo-Pak rivalry spills onto the wikipedia says Pickled Politics. “Brainwashed to their respective (distorted) versions of history, Indian and Pakistani nationalists are busy slugging it out over the Wiki world. In the on-going battle for ideological supremacy, the quality of many articles (Panipat, Kashmir, Terrorism in Kashmir, Urdu, Shah Jahan and Kargil War) has suffered.” [...] [...] The impact of Indo-Pak rivalry spills onto the wikipedia says Pickled Politics. “Brainwashed to their respective (distorted) versions of history, Indian and Pakistani nationalists are busy slugging it out over the Wiki world. In the on-going battle for ideological supremacy, the quality of many articles (Panipat, Kashmir, Terrorism in Kashmir, Urdu, Shah Jahan and Kargil War) has suffered.” [...]

]]> By: Zak http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-17082 Zak Mon, 03 Apr 2006 13:37:15 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-17082 This is not peculiar to Pak-indo disputes..go read a post on the 1973 Arab Israeli war and tell me if thats NPOV? Or A lot of Muslim references..the problem is wiki too often ends up a place of who shouts the loudest ..and not who shouts the best. This is not peculiar to Pak-indo disputes..go read a post on the 1973 Arab Israeli war and tell me if thats NPOV? Or A lot of Muslim references..the problem is wiki too often ends up a place of who shouts the loudest ..and not who shouts the best.

]]> By: Vikrant Singh http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16807 Vikrant Singh Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:27:25 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16807 This is just in. Pakistan has BLOCKED wikipedia!!! http://digg.com/links/Pakistan_goes_People_s_Republic_of_China_on_Wikipedia This is just in. Pakistan has BLOCKED wikipedia!!!

http://digg.com/links/Pakistan_goes_People_s_Republic_of_China_on_Wikipedia

]]> By: Nanda Kishore http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16725 Nanda Kishore Fri, 31 Mar 2006 03:39:52 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16725 Hmmm...doesn't surprise, does it? <em>Pakistanis cannot stomach that there might have been a darker side to their heroes like Aurangzeb...</em> Pray tell me why Aurangzeb should be a hero for anyone? How come he's a hero to Pakistanis? Oh, btw, I'm an Indian (born Hindu). Hmmm…doesn’t surprise, does it?

Pakistanis cannot stomach that there might have been a darker side to their heroes like Aurangzeb…

Pray tell me why Aurangzeb should be a hero for anyone? How come he’s a hero to Pakistanis?

Oh, btw, I’m an Indian (born Hindu).

]]> By: foxy http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16722 foxy Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:53:26 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16722 Jonz said... ....When I was 16 I was politically niave, almost bordering on… liberal conervative! :) Look at you now Jonz, all grown up, looking very smart in your jack boots and black shirt, if only your mama could see you now!!! Foxy Jonz said…

….When I was 16 I was politically niave, almost bordering on… liberal conervative! :)

Look at you now Jonz, all grown up, looking very smart in your jack boots and black shirt, if only your mama could see you now!!!

Foxy

]]> By: Lover, not figher http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16705 Lover, not figher Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:44:01 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16705 If only we could fight all disputes in wikipedia! If only we could fight all disputes in wikipedia!

]]> By: Don http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16688 Don Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:13:32 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16688 Vikrant, Good article. At this rate, by the time you apply to uni. you will have a damn fine portfolio. Vikrant,

Good article. At this rate, by the time you apply to uni. you will have a damn fine portfolio.

]]> By: Ashish Gupta http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16680 Ashish Gupta Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:01:37 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16680 Well researched article. However, I do not buy that mess is solely South-Asian Wikipedian's doing. All hot topic, including President Bush, Iraq War, Holocast, etc. are under constant POV edits. Where there is any controversy in world (Israel-Palestine) there is POV. Just that we have more of Indian and Pakistanis on Wiki (due to their population, US immigration, and internet access) POVizes the Indo-Pak centric topic. Also, it may not be true that South-Asians aren't getting the NPOV idea. It is just that NPOV is itself POV for some. There are multiple versions of truth. NPOV doesn't imply that we equally say Holocast was good as well as bad. Me too <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AshishG" rel="nofollow">Wikiholic</a> Well researched article.

However, I do not buy that mess is solely South-Asian Wikipedian’s doing. All hot topic, including President Bush, Iraq War, Holocast, etc. are under constant POV edits. Where there is any controversy in world (Israel-Palestine) there is POV. Just that we have more of Indian and Pakistanis on Wiki (due to their population, US immigration, and internet access) POVizes the Indo-Pak centric topic.

Also, it may not be true that South-Asians aren’t getting the NPOV idea. It is just that NPOV is itself POV for some. There are multiple versions of truth. NPOV doesn’t imply that we equally say Holocast was good as well as bad.

Me too Wikiholic

]]> By: Sunny http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16671 Sunny Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:12:27 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16671 Heh, I thought the article was hilarious too. I never knew that bubbling underneath Wikipedia would be the Indo-Pak jingoism, but now that you look at it, its not surprising is it... Heh, I thought the article was hilarious too. I never knew that bubbling underneath Wikipedia would be the Indo-Pak jingoism, but now that you look at it, its not surprising is it…

]]> By: Vik’s Rants » http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16668 Vik’s Rants » Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:41:09 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16668 [...] Update: Thoroughly edited edition of this story can be found at Pickled Politics. [...] [...] Update: Thoroughly edited edition of this story can be found at Pickled Politics. [...]

]]> By: Vikrant http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16667 Vikrant Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:25:58 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16667 Sure there is nothing wrong in ppl from both sides writing an article in co-ordination with each other, but Indians and Pakistanis are indulging in tit-for-tat unilateral POV editing. Thats not to say that South Asians are the only ppl doing it, (check Israelis and Arabs) but nevertheless the scope and magnitude of misinformation propogated in South Asian articles is enormous. Sure there is nothing wrong in ppl from both sides writing an article in co-ordination with each other, but Indians and Pakistanis are indulging in tit-for-tat unilateral POV editing. Thats not to say that South Asians are the only ppl doing it, (check Israelis and Arabs) but nevertheless the scope and magnitude of misinformation propogated in South Asian articles is enormous.

]]> By: Suyog http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16664 Suyog Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:12:11 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16664 Thankfully the topic is now locked on wiki - and I think there is nothing wrong in what ppl from both sides are doing actually. Afterall its a free medium (wikipedia) - this is bound to happen. Suyog Thankfully the topic is now locked on wiki – and I think there is nothing wrong in what ppl from both sides are doing actually.

Afterall its a free medium (wikipedia) – this is bound to happen.

Suyog

]]> By: raz http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16660 raz Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:02:18 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16660 that was me jk :) PS you just got your first comment on your blog - don't say i'm not good to you :) that was me

jk :)

PS you just got your first comment on your blog – don’t say i’m not good to you :)

]]> By: Vikrant http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16659 Vikrant Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:50:45 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16659 err thankee Jay, Jonz 'n Sid latest drivel on wikipedia: <i>There is no need whatsoever to include the Ghandi terrorist in a picture with Jinnah, Ghandi is not the founding father of Pakistan and is a man responsible for riots and influencing them by emotional blackmail (ie starvation), The terrorist was always locked into prison by the British and this should give you an indication of Ghandis intolarable charachter. Jinnah on the otherhand was a seperate individual with different rational and morals, he was never once in prisoned, and he led a DEMOCRATIC move that was peaceful. There is no need to have Jinnah in a picture with Ghandi as there is with Churchill and Hitler on the Churchill webpage, churchill stood for peace and democracy likek jinnah, Ghandi like Hitler stood for Facism and violence.</i> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pakistan#REMOVE_INSULTING_JINNAH_.26_GHANDI_PICTURE.21">Link here</a> lol err thankee Jay, Jonz ‘n Sid

latest drivel on wikipedia:
There is no need whatsoever to include the Ghandi terrorist in a picture with Jinnah, Ghandi is not the founding father of Pakistan and is a man responsible for riots and influencing them by emotional blackmail (ie starvation), The terrorist was always locked into prison by the British and this should give you an indication of Ghandis intolarable charachter. Jinnah on the otherhand was a seperate individual with different rational and morals, he was never once in prisoned, and he led a DEMOCRATIC move that was peaceful. There is no need to have Jinnah in a picture with Ghandi as there is with Churchill and Hitler on the Churchill webpage, churchill stood for peace and democracy likek jinnah, Ghandi like Hitler stood for Facism and violence.

Link here

lol

]]> By: j0nz http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16658 j0nz Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:19:29 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16658 Prince Charles? Not Indian! .. Ears too big. --- African! Some other characters at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodness_Gracious_Me#Recurring_characters" rel="nofollow">Vikipedia</a> I thought it was particularly hilarious when he said, Jesus? ... Indian! lol Prince Charles? Not Indian! .. Ears too big. — African!

Some other characters at Vikipedia

I thought it was particularly hilarious when he said, Jesus? … Indian! lol

]]> By: Siddhartha Singh Muslim http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16657 Siddhartha Singh Muslim Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:03:11 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16657 Vikipedia? Indian! Vikipedia? Indian!

]]> By: j0nz http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16656 j0nz Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:00:10 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/395#comment-16656 Me impressed to. I know you hate when people mention your age, but for 16 you're very astute. When I was 16 I was politically niave, almost bordering on... liberal conervative! :) So I believe we have PP's very first poster that supports the Conservatives! Yay! Me impressed to.

I know you hate when people mention your age, but for 16 you’re very astute. When I was 16 I was politically niave, almost bordering on… liberal conervative! :)

So I believe we have PP’s very first poster that supports the Conservatives! Yay!

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