Funny how govt still sees MCB as the Vatican.

browns cabinet is dangerously thin on talent.

Its nothing more than that.

She is uneven in her policy, unjust, fails to adopt core values of the wider country herself who support the Palestinians which shows that politicians don’t listen to the masses.

If she stood for the values she claims she does she wouldn’t have made such a poor decision.

Blears = Blair in a dress.

You should watch the Newsnight interview – Jeremy Paxman nails it.

The government has moved into the idiocy phase.

Note also the point -the government does NOT and has NOT given money to MCB. It has contracted them in the past for specific projects.

This was the lie DavidT and HP had been pushing ever since I’ve been on PP.

‘But what most people and most Muslims do not support is Daud Abdullah or his views.’

Firstly most people have no idea who he is, and if they now do it will be entirely due this faux hysteria, upped by a politician of little consequence.

Secondly, most people including most muslims see what goes in Israel and despair. They feel helpless and watch from the sidelines – as pictures of a murderous regime goes in and out of a huge open air prison at will, are beamed into their living rooms. So I don’t think for one minute this diversion from the Israeli regime to an individual who signeda piece of paper means anything other than expose the duplicity of Hazel Blears.

Jacqui Smith rants about standing up for our values – I am quite confident that would ordinarily include offer protection and seek justice for the Palestinians. Even though that would run counter to what the government really wants us to believe.

‘The translation made by Newsnight was also different to the hysteria and was a fairly vague statement.’

I did think to question the translation in the post. Do you have Newsnight’s?

Vaz refused to answer questions about why the Government and Blears are refusing to apply the same rules to Jewish Organisations.

On the whole even Paxman could see the stupidity of Blears position and went after Vaz quite hard.

Some crucial questions are emerging here namely that Blears is undermining independant organisations at her own whim and not applying policy equally and fairly and justly.

Surely this issue needs to be addressed as much as the Daud Abdullah situation.

Do you find it acceptable that there is one rule for Muslim Organisations and apparently one for Jewish Organisations?

I find it suprising you are so quiet on this inequality.

Also when Islam is perceived to be uneual all hell breaks loose but when Muslims are treated unequally then it seems acceptable policy.

Why are Jewish Organisations not being held to the same standards?

The Daily Mail is going to continue flogging its editorial policy of demonising British Muslims to anyone who buys it by pushing the story of Daud Abdullah, deputy secretary-general of the MCB, signing a Hamas document which calls for attacks of British Troops.

But what most people and most Muslims do not support is Daud Abdullah or his views.

But the MCB and the Daily Mail will do everything they can to resist that notion.

8. ‘The obligation of the British Nation to regard the sending of foreign warships into British waters, claiming to control the borders and prevent the import of arms to Britain, as a declaration of war, a new occupation, sinful aggression, and a clear violation of the sovereignty of the nation. This must be rejected and fought by all means and ways.’

Gaza is a sovereign state run by an elected government. It has a right to defend itself from attacks by a ruthless neighbour with no scruples about committing war crimes.
Whatever religious nuttery promoted by this Istanbul Declaration, the assertion of the right to self-defence is something the Daily Mail, and everyone now calling for Daud Abdullah’s head on a plate, would surely support – except in the case of one of Israel’s victims, apparently.

Let’s not forget what the Israeli navy can get up to given a free hand. Days before the onslaught against Lebanon, they were busy shelling Beirut beach parties, in heroic defence of their homeland.

I was thinking of distraction from the governments fall in popularity and the up coming Euro elections, in its attempt to tackle the rising support for the BNP.

As for the Israel, it is of course a distraction when the real story is the IDF, Gaza and the extremist Liebermann becoming foreign minister.

Clear Mossad involvement.

‘Do you think these two stories are related?’

Yes I do. And I believe the re-birthing of the government’s anti-extremism program is also a distraction.

With all due respect, if you’ve anything to say, why don’t you say it here?

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This post is a distraction to what is becoming public knowledge about war crimes committed by the IDF.

I would ignore it and bring the focus back to where its should be – war crimes and with that very very close scrutiny of british citizens who went and killed men women and children in Gaza.

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How is this a distraction to the Gaza war crimes story when there is a post by Sunny dedicated to it here?

http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/3820

No one’s stopping you from posting your comments on that post.

I am intrigued though why you’re bringing up the Gaza war crimes story on a thread about the MCB.

Do you think these two stories are related?

I don’t want to make a big deal about this, partly because I think a lot of your points are valid, but shrugging off a clear distnction as ‘semantics’ makes me wonder what meaning you are giving to the word.

And Point 7 of the Declaration suggests that nothing as specific as a naval blockade is required to make the UK a target. ‘Standing by the entity’ would seem to be enough.

It is an implied threat. Support Israel and be treated as Israel is treated. As much as I may abhor the recent actions in Gaza, as much as I may think the UK government should seriously and urgently review its current policy toward the I/P conflict, any UK citizen who signs up to a declaration which even potentially makes other UK citizens legitimate targets for violence should not expect to be treated as a viable ‘partner’ by the UK government. Nor should any organisation in which such a person holds a significant position.