Yessah!

And Nukh’s point was about all religious schools in all subcontinental countries. Kulvinder is unwilling to believe that the subcontinent has a worse child abuse record than anywhere else, unless he sees real evidence. I say that’s utter idiocy. To refer to my most recent thread, he is being like the British Sea Cadet authority and refusing to believe ‘rumour’, when it’s patently obvious abuse is widespread.

That’s all, we needn’t discuss it any further as we’ve all said our bits.

Though I think I share Nukh and Jay’s suspicion that these places are not only open to abuse, but also that it takes place.

But it is fair to assume that given the widespread silence and denial on many of these issues in desi cultures it is not so OUTRAGEOUS that nukh said what he said.

Infer from what?

If you had ‘anecdotal evidence’ of abuse in your local school, wouldn’t you make a fuss, at least to the extent of ensuring that proper safeguards and independant scrutiny were in place?

After all, anecdotal evidence is all you will have until cases have gone through the courts, since all other cases will be either unreported or subject to strict confidentiality while being investigated.

I don’t see anything wrong in Cryer’s comment. If only two councils have ensured that child protection measures are in place, the others need to be criticised, and if they have kept away from the issue because of some idea of ‘cultural sensitivity’ then they need a good slap to wake them up.

More power to Dr. Siddiqui.

But it’s a political hot potato and therefore its my belief that other reports / investigations have been quashed. It is a brave BBC producer who will order another investigation into such abuse in the worry they will be called Islamophobic.

So in that view it is not only important but also ideal that Dr Siddiqui has pre-empted this debate. Frankly I don’t give a shit about right-wing blogs who will use it to flog their own agenda. The important thing here is the lives of the young kids, not what blogs say. the lives of kids should not be used a political tool – end of story.

Im not sure where you’re coming from, i never sought to deny that abuse may be occuring, if i gave that impression im sorry, i just said it was impossible to quanitfy it in any authoritative way based largely on hearsay. You can’t say its as bad as the catholic scandal or that its worse in third world countries. You don’t know that.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

Kulvinder my point about rape was about REPORTED crimes. Just because no one reports paedophilia, it doesn’t mean it’s not occurring. There was just a report on NDTV saying that the rate of reporting paedophilia on male children is almost 0%, but child sex trade gangs are being discovered every day. Might make a post out of it.

Since when did we bother what they say on Harry’s Paranoia?

It is a good thing, everyone needs to wake up…there are kiddy fiddlers in every community.

Raz, having been to some right-wing blogs, there are some people that already say that kind of shit.