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	<title>Comments on: Scientist Speaks to Scientologists Stateside</title>
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		<title>By: Janardan</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/377#comment-15960</link>
		<dc:creator>Janardan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I met this man once at a public meeting, and he said he wanted to talk to me about Psychiatric Abuse. I had no idea what he was on about, but said I could meet him if he really had to discuss some way I could help. He came to meet me armed with lots of journals about Psychiatric Abuse. At one point when we were conversing about medicines, he raised his voice and said, &quot;You have no idea how these people abuse innocents by pumping mind inducing drugs in them.&quot;

I was a bit puzzled. I asked him &quot;Do you think Indian psychiatrists also indulge in abuse?&quot;

And he almost screamed at me, &quot;They are the worst. The UK is full of Indian psychiatrists&quot;.

As he was walking out, he stopped, turned to me, gave me a big smile, and said, &quot;By the way, we have an event with John Travolta next month, do you want to come?&quot;

At that moment, I realised, that he may possibly be a Scientologist, because Travlolta is one too.

&quot;Isnt Travlota a Scientologist?&quot; I asked.

&quot;O thats ok,&quot; he brushed it away. &quot;Do come to the event.&quot;

Things clicked in place, and when I went back home, I did some digging round, and found that Ron Hubbard had started this campaign against psychiatrits because they had questioned the authenticity of Dianetics.

An orchestrated campaign of hatred against psychiaty as a profession - all because many of them don&#039;t accept Dianetics.

After I learnt this, I maintained a respectful distance from this man. Too much hatred is a wrong thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met this man once at a public meeting, and he said he wanted to talk to me about Psychiatric Abuse. I had no idea what he was on about, but said I could meet him if he really had to discuss some way I could help. He came to meet me armed with lots of journals about Psychiatric Abuse. At one point when we were conversing about medicines, he raised his voice and said, &#8220;You have no idea how these people abuse innocents by pumping mind inducing drugs in them.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was a bit puzzled. I asked him &#8220;Do you think Indian psychiatrists also indulge in abuse?&#8221;</p>
<p>And he almost screamed at me, &#8220;They are the worst. The UK is full of Indian psychiatrists&#8221;.</p>
<p>As he was walking out, he stopped, turned to me, gave me a big smile, and said, &#8220;By the way, we have an event with John Travolta next month, do you want to come?&#8221;</p>
<p>At that moment, I realised, that he may possibly be a Scientologist, because Travlolta is one too.</p>
<p>&#8220;Isnt Travlota a Scientologist?&#8221; I asked.</p>
<p>&#8220;O thats ok,&#8221; he brushed it away. &#8220;Do come to the event.&#8221;</p>
<p>Things clicked in place, and when I went back home, I did some digging round, and found that Ron Hubbard had started this campaign against psychiatrits because they had questioned the authenticity of Dianetics.</p>
<p>An orchestrated campaign of hatred against psychiaty as a profession &#8211; all because many of them don&#8217;t accept Dianetics.</p>
<p>After I learnt this, I maintained a respectful distance from this man. Too much hatred is a wrong thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/377#comment-15887</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IThe &#039;stress detector&#039; is a Galvanic Skin Resistance meter (GSR) which has been around for many, many years and was not invented by Scientologists. It was used by Jung and does have genuine therapeutic potential.

Unfortunately, because these devices have been taken up by the cult of Scientology they are discarded by most of those who would find them useful in a &#039;throwing the baby out with the bathwater&#039; kind of way.

Incidentally, I&#039;m no fan of Scientology but in the interest of truth you should know that it now seems that&lt;a href=&quot;http://drinksoakedtrotsforwar.blogspot.com/2006/03/theres-news-and-then-theres-press.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;  Isaac Hayes did not quit South Park&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IThe &#8216;stress detector&#8217; is a Galvanic Skin Resistance meter (GSR) which has been around for many, many years and was not invented by Scientologists. It was used by Jung and does have genuine therapeutic potential.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, because these devices have been taken up by the cult of Scientology they are discarded by most of those who would find them useful in a &#8216;throwing the baby out with the bathwater&#8217; kind of way.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I&#8217;m no fan of Scientology but in the interest of truth you should know that it now seems that<a href="http://drinksoakedtrotsforwar.blogspot.com/2006/03/theres-news-and-then-theres-press.html" rel="nofollow">  Isaac Hayes did not quit South Park</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjeev</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/377#comment-15836</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjeev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are on a recuitment drive in Birmingham...&#039;Would you like to take a stress teast?&#039;

...yes I fell for it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are on a recuitment drive in Birmingham&#8230;&#8217;Would you like to take a stress teast?&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8230;yes I fell for it</p>
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		<title>By: David T</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/377#comment-15806</link>
		<dc:creator>David T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha top stuff dude/dawg!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha top stuff dude/dawg!</p>
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		<title>By: Rohin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/377#comment-15801</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 04:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the invite Expose, but sadly I&#039;ve just popped back to the UK before heading to Afreeeka forthwith. Hope the conference goes well. Incidentally one of my original plans was to take up an offer to study at Columbia for a bit during this period. But I thought sod it I&#039;d rather be a bum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the invite Expose, but sadly I&#8217;ve just popped back to the UK before heading to Afreeeka forthwith. Hope the conference goes well. Incidentally one of my original plans was to take up an offer to study at Columbia for a bit during this period. But I thought sod it I&#8217;d rather be a bum.</p>
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		<title>By: Expose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Expose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 04:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I shall reply not replay.
Sorry!</description>
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Sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: Expose</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/377#comment-15799</link>
		<dc:creator>Expose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 04:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rohin, 

I haven&#039;t visited this [great] blog of yours in a while. 
Pleasantly surprised to note that you are visiting stateside.
I would like to take this opportunity to invite you to a conference my colleagues and I are organizing at Columbia  University&#039;s School of International and Public Affairs. 
It is an India centric conference - &quot;Inspiring India&quot;.
Two panels - U.S. - India relations and Kashmir.
To make a long description short - where may I email the details?
If you can access my email, do write and I shall replay asap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohin, </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t visited this [great] blog of yours in a while.<br />
Pleasantly surprised to note that you are visiting stateside.<br />
I would like to take this opportunity to invite you to a conference my colleagues and I are organizing at Columbia  University&#8217;s School of International and Public Affairs.<br />
It is an India centric conference &#8211; &#8220;Inspiring India&#8221;.<br />
Two panels &#8211; U.S. &#8211; India relations and Kashmir.<br />
To make a long description short &#8211; where may I email the details?<br />
If you can access my email, do write and I shall replay asap.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/377#comment-15798</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 02:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahahahaha!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahahaha!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tanvir</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/377#comment-15796</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanvir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 02:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me and two of my mates had an encounter with the church of scientology last summer when we were in New York for part of our electives.  Our hotel was well close to times square, and we would see these tables set out on the street near the easy cyber cafe daily with a stress detecor sign and people stopping random passers by trying to talk them into having a stress test.

Anyway, one morning,  we had just come out of our hotel, about 11am, walking toward times square. Muz, who was about to enocunter his come down from the drum and bass night we found the night before, and was really itching to have breakfast at a &#039;proper american diner&#039;. When we finished our munch and were leaving,  we opened the door and realised it was pissing it down. We kind of stood in the doorway wondering what to do. 

Then this nice lady appeared, with a big umbrella and huge smile. Said hi and  kind of ushered us out. She suddenly took the role of our trusty tour guide asking us where we are from and what we are doing in town. By the time we all were wondering what we were doing just following her as she spoke, she asked &quot;Have you guys heard of scientology?&quot; We were already at the church of scientolgy  by then. 

Anyway, we went in and asked many many questions. They didnt really have an explanation for scientology, just kept pointing us to the posters, ooh and you MUST buy the books for 99% of your answers. I think they quickly realised we were going to ask them a lot of stuff and directed us to this dark room, with lots of chairs and a projector screen. They proceeded to show us this well crap video, selling scientology to us as a lame manufactured &#039;religion&#039;. It was quite tacky, Muz ran out of the room after 5 minutes because the thought there might be subliminal messages in the video! (by the freemasons) Back in the main hallway area where they have posters and little screens showing videos, we were all being quite funny,bit like Rohin. 

The other major part of their gimmick is that they have developed this stress detector test which detects stress in your life which the books, theories and donations of scientology can solve! It just looks like this box with wires that plug into your body this little dial that gives your reading! Could not believe this was what they had on those stalls in times square!

At one point we were all jumping up and down yelling ahhhh freemasonaryy as soon as we noticed the pyramid shape and made other similar hearted conspiracy comments for the purpose of catching jokes. I cant remember details of the exact questions we were asking, but I think we most of their answers were returned by looks of confusion from us or us telling them that thats common sense. In fact we walked out of the building talking about how geniusly they have repackaged some logic and common sense concepts into a religion and went into business.

At least we finally figured out what those stress detecor tests around time square were! Next time we walked past one we paid attention as people who were told they had high levels of stress were directed or walked to the church of scientology or at least sold a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me and two of my mates had an encounter with the church of scientology last summer when we were in New York for part of our electives.  Our hotel was well close to times square, and we would see these tables set out on the street near the easy cyber cafe daily with a stress detecor sign and people stopping random passers by trying to talk them into having a stress test.</p>
<p>Anyway, one morning,  we had just come out of our hotel, about 11am, walking toward times square. Muz, who was about to enocunter his come down from the drum and bass night we found the night before, and was really itching to have breakfast at a &#8216;proper american diner&#8217;. When we finished our munch and were leaving,  we opened the door and realised it was pissing it down. We kind of stood in the doorway wondering what to do. </p>
<p>Then this nice lady appeared, with a big umbrella and huge smile. Said hi and  kind of ushered us out. She suddenly took the role of our trusty tour guide asking us where we are from and what we are doing in town. By the time we all were wondering what we were doing just following her as she spoke, she asked &#8220;Have you guys heard of scientology?&#8221; We were already at the church of scientolgy  by then. </p>
<p>Anyway, we went in and asked many many questions. They didnt really have an explanation for scientology, just kept pointing us to the posters, ooh and you MUST buy the books for 99% of your answers. I think they quickly realised we were going to ask them a lot of stuff and directed us to this dark room, with lots of chairs and a projector screen. They proceeded to show us this well crap video, selling scientology to us as a lame manufactured &#8216;religion&#8217;. It was quite tacky, Muz ran out of the room after 5 minutes because the thought there might be subliminal messages in the video! (by the freemasons) Back in the main hallway area where they have posters and little screens showing videos, we were all being quite funny,bit like Rohin. </p>
<p>The other major part of their gimmick is that they have developed this stress detector test which detects stress in your life which the books, theories and donations of scientology can solve! It just looks like this box with wires that plug into your body this little dial that gives your reading! Could not believe this was what they had on those stalls in times square!</p>
<p>At one point we were all jumping up and down yelling ahhhh freemasonaryy as soon as we noticed the pyramid shape and made other similar hearted conspiracy comments for the purpose of catching jokes. I cant remember details of the exact questions we were asking, but I think we most of their answers were returned by looks of confusion from us or us telling them that thats common sense. In fact we walked out of the building talking about how geniusly they have repackaged some logic and common sense concepts into a religion and went into business.</p>
<p>At least we finally figured out what those stress detecor tests around time square were! Next time we walked past one we paid attention as people who were told they had high levels of stress were directed or walked to the church of scientology or at least sold a book.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/377#comment-15791</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Sid, I wasn&#039;t sure what I should write as any travelogue I write I would assume no one would be interested in. I&#039;m pretty sure I don&#039;t come across as tolerant or intelligent! But just in case the wrong impression came across, I liked almost everyone I met in America. Not the cops. Not the scientologists. Not the unbelievably intolerant Christian couple in New York. Not the Deliverance-style petrol pump staff who said &quot;we ain&#039;t never seen your type around here&quot;.

But the hundreds of other people were bonza. Like Larry the drunk father of two who refused to believe I wasn&#039;t Egyptian and that I wasn&#039;t called Ronin.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Yo! Ronin! Like the V8! Yeah! V8! You paramilitary? Man I&#039;m fucked up, been out the army too long! Woo! Darius! (my friend) you&#039;re I-ray-nian? Shit I love Iraynians! And Egyptians! Whether you&#039;re Mooslem or American or purple alien, shit you&#039;re a good person!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

He then taught me how to kill a man in 3 ways. And demonstrated on a girl.

Or 3 of the Sepia Mutiny crew, who were great. Or the indie bookstore owner I had a smoke with when skiing. Or the countless funky hipsters in NY and San Fran. Or the nutters in LA and Vegas.

I like America a lot more than I did before. I advise all America-haters to hit it up, I guarantee you&#039;ll mellow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Sid, I wasn&#8217;t sure what I should write as any travelogue I write I would assume no one would be interested in. I&#8217;m pretty sure I don&#8217;t come across as tolerant or intelligent! But just in case the wrong impression came across, I liked almost everyone I met in America. Not the cops. Not the scientologists. Not the unbelievably intolerant Christian couple in New York. Not the Deliverance-style petrol pump staff who said &#8220;we ain&#8217;t never seen your type around here&#8221;.</p>
<p>But the hundreds of other people were bonza. Like Larry the drunk father of two who refused to believe I wasn&#8217;t Egyptian and that I wasn&#8217;t called Ronin.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Yo! Ronin! Like the V8! Yeah! V8! You paramilitary? Man I&#8217;m fucked up, been out the army too long! Woo! Darius! (my friend) you&#8217;re I-ray-nian? Shit I love Iraynians! And Egyptians! Whether you&#8217;re Mooslem or American or purple alien, shit you&#8217;re a good person!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>He then taught me how to kill a man in 3 ways. And demonstrated on a girl.</p>
<p>Or 3 of the Sepia Mutiny crew, who were great. Or the indie bookstore owner I had a smoke with when skiing. Or the countless funky hipsters in NY and San Fran. Or the nutters in LA and Vegas.</p>
<p>I like America a lot more than I did before. I advise all America-haters to hit it up, I guarantee you&#8217;ll mellow.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid D H Arthur</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/377#comment-15789</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid D H Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Travelogue accounts of conversations with natives where the writer is made to sound intelligent, tolerant and funny as opposed to the natives, invariably depicted as feckless, arse-scratching chumps, have been perfected by V S Naipaul. Yeah him, the Great Over Rated Bore. 

On the other hand, with Americans, that might not be so difficult; naive and irony-free cherubs that they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Travelogue accounts of conversations with natives where the writer is made to sound intelligent, tolerant and funny as opposed to the natives, invariably depicted as feckless, arse-scratching chumps, have been perfected by V S Naipaul. Yeah him, the Great Over Rated Bore. </p>
<p>On the other hand, with Americans, that might not be so difficult; naive and irony-free cherubs that they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/377#comment-15788</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I jotted down whatever I could remember afterwards, but it was pretty much like that. I&#039;m especially pleased with the &#039;dude&#039;, &#039;man&#039;, &#039;buddy&#039;, &#039;daddy-O&#039; and &#039;dawg&#039;. Should&#039;ve filmed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I jotted down whatever I could remember afterwards, but it was pretty much like that. I&#8217;m especially pleased with the &#8216;dude&#8217;, &#8216;man&#8217;, &#8216;buddy&#8217;, &#8216;daddy-O&#8217; and &#8216;dawg&#8217;. Should&#8217;ve filmed it.</p>
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		<title>By: xyz</title>
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		<dc:creator>xyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you really say those things? True or not, hilarious!</description>
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