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	<title>Comments on: Tale of two marches, part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/372/comment-page-1#comment-15793</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny, don&#039;t go. It is deliberately divisive. Have seen some of the stuff on the website promoting the event - see specifically the t-shirts and other promo items you can buy, it has every potential to be what the far right wish it to be. 

On the other hand we could do with someone going and reporting back to what it was like. Nuance and all.

Dread to think that freedom of expression marches might spring up everywhere esp. come the local elections. The leaflets are already getting out in targetted areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny, don&#8217;t go. It is deliberately divisive. Have seen some of the stuff on the website promoting the event &#8211; see specifically the t-shirts and other promo items you can buy, it has every potential to be what the far right wish it to be. </p>
<p>On the other hand we could do with someone going and reporting back to what it was like. Nuance and all.</p>
<p>Dread to think that freedom of expression marches might spring up everywhere esp. come the local elections. The leaflets are already getting out in targetted areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/372/comment-page-1#comment-15764</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im dissapointed Sunny that you wont come to the March for Free Expression. I&#039;m going to be there and you would be welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im dissapointed Sunny that you wont come to the March for Free Expression. I&#8217;m going to be there and you would be welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Reformist  Muslim</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/372/comment-page-1#comment-15750</link>
		<dc:creator>Reformist  Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rohin I can understand why you didn&#039;t enjoy the film. However let me post a couple of responses. 

Firstly I&#039;m not sure why the feel for London is so important. Most of the film takes place indoors and London is more of a backdrop than an integral part of the film (even parliament is a backdrop).

Same with Natalie Portman&#039;s accent. I suppose if you&#039;re enjoying the film it doesn&#039;t really bother you. 

The references to Abu Ghraib, Avian flu and the rest aren&#039;t overly sophisticated but their not meant to be. The film is meant to entertain and to provoke the audience into asking difficult questions and I thought it succeeded on both counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohin I can understand why you didn&#8217;t enjoy the film. However let me post a couple of responses. </p>
<p>Firstly I&#8217;m not sure why the feel for London is so important. Most of the film takes place indoors and London is more of a backdrop than an integral part of the film (even parliament is a backdrop).</p>
<p>Same with Natalie Portman&#8217;s accent. I suppose if you&#8217;re enjoying the film it doesn&#8217;t really bother you. </p>
<p>The references to Abu Ghraib, Avian flu and the rest aren&#8217;t overly sophisticated but their not meant to be. The film is meant to entertain and to provoke the audience into asking difficult questions and I thought it succeeded on both counts.</p>
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		<title>By: Lover, not figher</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/372/comment-page-1#comment-15684</link>
		<dc:creator>Lover, not figher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 08:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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March with fanatical Muslims opposing free speech and support the obligation to worship Allah. Soon you could enjoy the Muttawa and gosh your life would be great!

Come the March Sunny, we need you there.</description>
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<p>March with fanatical Muslims opposing free speech and support the obligation to worship Allah. Soon you could enjoy the Muttawa and gosh your life would be great!</p>
<p>Come the March Sunny, we need you there.</p>
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		<title>By: raz</title>
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		<dc:creator>raz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan Moore comics always seem to turn into crap films. At least League Of Extrordinary Gentlemen had the Asian Captain Nemo kicking some butt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Moore comics always seem to turn into crap films. At least League Of Extrordinary Gentlemen had the Asian Captain Nemo kicking some butt.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RM, I wrote some thoughts here: http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/003155.html#comment50961</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RM, I wrote some thoughts here: <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/003155.html#comment50961" rel="nofollow">http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/003155.html#comment50961</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reformist  Muslim</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/372/comment-page-1#comment-15646</link>
		<dc:creator>Reformist  Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Rohin I could not disagree with you more about V for Vendetta. I thought it was a stunningly good film! In fact I was going to write a positive review for it.

Would be interested in hearing your critique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Rohin I could not disagree with you more about V for Vendetta. I thought it was a stunningly good film! In fact I was going to write a positive review for it.</p>
<p>Would be interested in hearing your critique.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;if one takes a hardline stance against Islamic ideas &amp; practices, does that make one anti-muslim?&lt;/i&gt;

If a particular practice goes against your ideals, I don&#039;t see a problem with it. But you should try and remember j0nz, not all Muslims act or think the same. That should be common sense but then I don&#039;t know much about your state of mind.

These anit-Israel nutters always come out of the woodworks at these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>if one takes a hardline stance against Islamic ideas &amp; practices, does that make one anti-muslim?</i></p>
<p>If a particular practice goes against your ideals, I don&#8217;t see a problem with it. But you should try and remember j0nz, not all Muslims act or think the same. That should be common sense but then I don&#8217;t know much about your state of mind.</p>
<p>These anit-Israel nutters always come out of the woodworks at these things.</p>
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		<title>By: David T</title>
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		<dc:creator>David T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the look of the chap carrying that sign, it might make more sense inside his head than outside it:

http://www.inminds.co.uk/may17-03-811.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the look of the chap carrying that sign, it might make more sense inside his head than outside it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inminds.co.uk/may17-03-811.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.inminds.co.uk/may17-03-811.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: j0nz</title>
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		<dc:creator>j0nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continuing with Rohins jovial theme, Bush haters (not Democrats!!) should be killed in the worst way possible, according to Grand Ayatollah Ali Al-Sistani who is *the* religious authority for Shiite Muslims, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sistani.org/html/ara/menu/4/?lang=ara&amp;view=d&amp;code=45&amp;page=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;apparently&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t speak Persian so I&#039;m taking somebody elses word for it. I&#039;m sure what it really says is that Allah loves all creatures equally...

Question, Sunny, et al, if one takes a hardline stance against Islamic ideas &amp; practices, does that make one anti-muslim?

It seems anyone who is opposed to Islam as a belief system is discounted as &#039;anti-muslim&#039;, or even lamer, as &#039;racist&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuing with Rohins jovial theme, Bush haters (not Democrats!!) should be killed in the worst way possible, according to Grand Ayatollah Ali Al-Sistani who is *the* religious authority for Shiite Muslims, <a href="http://www.sistani.org/html/ara/menu/4/?lang=ara&amp;view=d&amp;code=45&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">apparently</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t speak Persian so I&#8217;m taking somebody elses word for it. I&#8217;m sure what it really says is that Allah loves all creatures equally&#8230;</p>
<p>Question, Sunny, et al, if one takes a hardline stance against Islamic ideas &amp; practices, does that make one anti-muslim?</p>
<p>It seems anyone who is opposed to Islam as a belief system is discounted as &#8216;anti-muslim&#8217;, or even lamer, as &#8216;racist&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lover, not figher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lover, not figher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grow up Sunny, come to the March.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grow up Sunny, come to the March.</p>
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		<title>By: StrangelyPsychedelique/Kesara</title>
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		<dc:creator>StrangelyPsychedelique/Kesara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.flickr.com/photos/kesara/114807622/

^That photo Im having...err..trouble deciphering :&#124;</description>
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<p>^That photo Im having&#8230;err..trouble deciphering <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;that’s not a pun, although it would be an exceedingly good one&quot;

hahahaha!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;that’s not a pun, although it would be an exceedingly good one&#8221;</p>
<p>hahahaha!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rohin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the San Francisco Stop The War march briefly, whilst on my way to watch V for Vendetta (please, PLEASE don&#039;t watch it. Utter, utter, unmitigated shite.)

The march was fairly lacklustre. My camera was out of juice so I filmed a bit instead, which I&#039;m glad I did as it seem to have been hijacked by Filipino protestors (not entirely sure what they wanted) and Pakistanis demanding India stop its &quot;occupation of Kashmir&quot;. And sure enough, Palestinian flags were out in force. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever seen a protest WITHOUT Palestinian flags.

Still, seemed to be an overwhelming dislike of Bush in the city (that&#039;s not a pun, although it would be an exceedingly good one).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the San Francisco Stop The War march briefly, whilst on my way to watch V for Vendetta (please, PLEASE don&#8217;t watch it. Utter, utter, unmitigated shite.)</p>
<p>The march was fairly lacklustre. My camera was out of juice so I filmed a bit instead, which I&#8217;m glad I did as it seem to have been hijacked by Filipino protestors (not entirely sure what they wanted) and Pakistanis demanding India stop its &#8220;occupation of Kashmir&#8221;. And sure enough, Palestinian flags were out in force. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever seen a protest WITHOUT Palestinian flags.</p>
<p>Still, seemed to be an overwhelming dislike of Bush in the city (that&#8217;s not a pun, although it would be an exceedingly good one).</p>
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