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		<title>By: Clive Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/359/comment-page-2#comment-15412</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;AN EDITOR DEPARTS&lt;/strong&gt;

Private Eye had the last word on Sarah Sands long before she was dumped from the Sunday Telegraph:For me, a Sunday newspaper is like a bath bubble, floating in the air, smelling of perfume, with a picture of a woman</description>
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<p>Private Eye had the last word on Sarah Sands long before she was dumped from the Sunday Telegraph:For me, a Sunday newspaper is like a bath bubble, floating in the air, smelling of perfume, with a picture of a woman</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/359/comment-page-2#comment-15356</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bob, nice of you to make an appearance. Clearly your reputation preceeds you.
It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on post 21 by David T though, as I&#039;ve wondered that myself quite a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob, nice of you to make an appearance. Clearly your reputation preceeds you.<br />
It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on post 21 by David T though, as I&#8217;ve wondered that myself quite a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid D H Arthur</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/359/comment-page-1#comment-15341</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid D H Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

I bow to your superior patriarchial dogma-stentorian-ness. It is clear that you are not and never have been a racist in a court of law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I bow to your superior patriarchial dogma-stentorian-ness. It is clear that you are not and never have been a racist in a court of law.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/359/comment-page-1#comment-15340</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sid,

Your not the sharpest tool in the box.  Why do you keep slinging this racist labrel about?  What have I written on this blog that can be described as racist.  You should really develop a thicker skin.  Some of my best friends are brown, actually my wife is too.

We both know we would all be &quot;snearing and sniggering.&quot; if  stump-toothed, white Brits and not British Asian Muslims practiced consanginuous marriages</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sid,</p>
<p>Your not the sharpest tool in the box.  Why do you keep slinging this racist labrel about?  What have I written on this blog that can be described as racist.  You should really develop a thicker skin.  Some of my best friends are brown, actually my wife is too.</p>
<p>We both know we would all be &#8220;snearing and sniggering.&#8221; if  stump-toothed, white Brits and not British Asian Muslims practiced consanginuous marriages</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Pitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Pitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to David T, and just for the record, I&#039;m not a member of any left group and haven&#039;t been for about a decade and a half.

For what it&#039;s worth, I would describe my politics as broadly Marxist but not Trotskyist. Indeed, I long ago concluded that Leninist ideology and forms of organisation are largely counter-productive.

I&#039;ve expressed these views publicly for many years and recall being denounced in the Weekly Worker on a couple of occasions because of it.

What pisses me off about David T is that he makes these accusations against Islamophobia Watch and myself – just as he recently did against  Neil Berry of Christian CND – purely on the basis of political prejudice and without making any attempt to check the facts.

The irony is that David T deludes himself that he&#039;s upholding Enlightenment values against the supporters of Islamo-fascism, whereas in reality he&#039;s just an ignorant bigoted little pillock. And that&#039;s really all I have to say on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to David T, and just for the record, I&#8217;m not a member of any left group and haven&#8217;t been for about a decade and a half.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I would describe my politics as broadly Marxist but not Trotskyist. Indeed, I long ago concluded that Leninist ideology and forms of organisation are largely counter-productive.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve expressed these views publicly for many years and recall being denounced in the Weekly Worker on a couple of occasions because of it.</p>
<p>What pisses me off about David T is that he makes these accusations against Islamophobia Watch and myself – just as he recently did against  Neil Berry of Christian CND – purely on the basis of political prejudice and without making any attempt to check the facts.</p>
<p>The irony is that David T deludes himself that he&#8217;s upholding Enlightenment values against the supporters of Islamo-fascism, whereas in reality he&#8217;s just an ignorant bigoted little pillock. And that&#8217;s really all I have to say on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid D H Arthur</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/359/comment-page-1#comment-15337</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid D H Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I like your new middle name Sid&lt;/i&gt;

I always thought Talwar Singh was da coolest name in the world for a man. You kow anyone with that name has bound to have lead in his pencil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I like your new middle name Sid</i></p>
<p>I always thought Talwar Singh was da coolest name in the world for a man. You kow anyone with that name has bound to have lead in his pencil.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid D H Arthur</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/359/comment-page-1#comment-15332</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid D H Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike

Consanginuous marriages have been covered on PP more comprehensively and frankly than you have been thus far. Check the archives, puts to shame your furtive little attempts at snearing and sniggering. Come clean man. No one likes a snivelling, furtive racist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike</p>
<p>Consanginuous marriages have been covered on PP more comprehensively and frankly than you have been thus far. Check the archives, puts to shame your furtive little attempts at snearing and sniggering. Come clean man. No one likes a snivelling, furtive racist.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Siddhartha,

So nothing about Muslim inbreeding then?


David T

I don&#039;t mean to nitpick, but strictly speaking Islamophobia is an illogical or irrational fear of Islam. As you well know, there are plenty of valid reasons to fear Islam and/or it&#039;s practitioners, and fear is in fact the aim of Islamists.  Moreover, Islamophobia is not phony or even psychological but very literal--if you&#039;re a Dutch MP, Danish cartoonist or apostate in hiding under threat of death, your Islamophobia is highly justified. It is the oldset trick in the world to throw dirt on your opponents when you can&#039;t think of anything more to say.... The word itself is completely inaccurate and it&#039;s use should be discouraged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siddhartha,</p>
<p>So nothing about Muslim inbreeding then?</p>
<p>David T</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to nitpick, but strictly speaking Islamophobia is an illogical or irrational fear of Islam. As you well know, there are plenty of valid reasons to fear Islam and/or it&#8217;s practitioners, and fear is in fact the aim of Islamists.  Moreover, Islamophobia is not phony or even psychological but very literal&#8211;if you&#8217;re a Dutch MP, Danish cartoonist or apostate in hiding under threat of death, your Islamophobia is highly justified. It is the oldset trick in the world to throw dirt on your opponents when you can&#8217;t think of anything more to say&#8230;. The word itself is completely inaccurate and it&#8217;s use should be discouraged.</p>
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		<title>By: David T</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/359/comment-page-1#comment-15318</link>
		<dc:creator>David T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nicole Colgate is pretty hot. &lt;/i&gt;

No she is not.

Still, de gustibus and all that.

On the Cummins artice: it is classic Islamophobic conspiracism isn&#039;t  it? This is precisely the sort of stuff you get from those types with an encyclopedic knowledge of obscure bits of the talmud ... 

Its not a trend which is as well developed, or as consistent in its themes, as the parallel jew-obssessed stuff, but it is pretty close. 

The giveaway is the &quot;dogs&quot; code language. He chooses &quot;dogs&quot; because he knows that there is a dog related cultural taboo in Islam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nicole Colgate is pretty hot. </i></p>
<p>No she is not.</p>
<p>Still, de gustibus and all that.</p>
<p>On the Cummins artice: it is classic Islamophobic conspiracism isn&#8217;t  it? This is precisely the sort of stuff you get from those types with an encyclopedic knowledge of obscure bits of the talmud &#8230; </p>
<p>Its not a trend which is as well developed, or as consistent in its themes, as the parallel jew-obssessed stuff, but it is pretty close. </p>
<p>The giveaway is the &#8220;dogs&#8221; code language. He chooses &#8220;dogs&#8221; because he knows that there is a dog related cultural taboo in Islam.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your new middle name Sid!</description>
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		<title>By: Siddhartha Singh Muslim</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/359/comment-page-1#comment-15293</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddhartha Singh Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;A lot of what the BNP and Nick Griffin say about Islam (well publicly anyway) is true.&lt;/i&gt;

Not what I&#039;ve heard. He sounds like he decided to read and instead absorbed the visceral sectarian of people who were victims of the Partition and then decided to use them in his vocabulary without an iota of research. He also completely fucked up his history of East Pakistan and confused it with other bits of Indian history he managed to mangle together in a massive self-defeating euology to his own mediocrity.

Oh and then he said that victims of rapes in India found themselves with children who grew up to be Muslims, even after their fathers fled. As if the Muslim quality is in the DNA! And the same thing could happen in Britian!

I mean, really. And I was hoping for a sharp sneering racist and all I got was a buffoon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A lot of what the BNP and Nick Griffin say about Islam (well publicly anyway) is true.</i></p>
<p>Not what I&#8217;ve heard. He sounds like he decided to read and instead absorbed the visceral sectarian of people who were victims of the Partition and then decided to use them in his vocabulary without an iota of research. He also completely fucked up his history of East Pakistan and confused it with other bits of Indian history he managed to mangle together in a massive self-defeating euology to his own mediocrity.</p>
<p>Oh and then he said that victims of rapes in India found themselves with children who grew up to be Muslims, even after their fathers fled. As if the Muslim quality is in the DNA! And the same thing could happen in Britian!</p>
<p>I mean, really. And I was hoping for a sharp sneering racist and all I got was a buffoon.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddhartha Singh Muslim</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/359/comment-page-1#comment-15291</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddhartha Singh Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike

Nope, my parents weren&#039;t consanguineous. Although my dad always was sanguine about things in general. But cosanguinous, no. Mother was the sprightly undergrad and he was the handsome, ambitious young doctor. 

How&#039;s the food at the chimp farm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike</p>
<p>Nope, my parents weren&#8217;t consanguineous. Although my dad always was sanguine about things in general. But cosanguinous, no. Mother was the sprightly undergrad and he was the handsome, ambitious young doctor. </p>
<p>How&#8217;s the food at the chimp farm?</p>
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		<title>By: j0nz</title>
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		<dc:creator>j0nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok I&#039;m a little shocked to read the wording on the Wil Cummins article.  With a headline like &quot;Muslims are a threat to our way of life&quot;, this is clearly demonising all Muslims, and would be pulled, even at Infidel Alliance. Well at least altered. Genuinely surprised this got published in it&#039;s current form! 

If the word Muslims or All Muslims could be replaced with jihadists or Islamists it would be pretty much on the mark. 

After the dumbarse and irresponsible tarring of all Muslims, he says 
&quot;An extreme Christian believes that the Garden of Eden really existed; an extreme Muslim flies planes into buildings - there&#039;s a big difference.&quot;

What a twat; he had to mess up a good theological debate with the preceding demonisation of all Muslims. A lot of what the BNP and Nick Griffin say about Islam (well publicly anyway) is true. But they don&#039;t fool me. And they won&#039;t fool the British public. So, chin up, lads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I&#8217;m a little shocked to read the wording on the Wil Cummins article.  With a headline like &#8220;Muslims are a threat to our way of life&#8221;, this is clearly demonising all Muslims, and would be pulled, even at Infidel Alliance. Well at least altered. Genuinely surprised this got published in it&#8217;s current form! </p>
<p>If the word Muslims or All Muslims could be replaced with jihadists or Islamists it would be pretty much on the mark. </p>
<p>After the dumbarse and irresponsible tarring of all Muslims, he says<br />
&#8220;An extreme Christian believes that the Garden of Eden really existed; an extreme Muslim flies planes into buildings &#8211; there&#8217;s a big difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a twat; he had to mess up a good theological debate with the preceding demonisation of all Muslims. A lot of what the BNP and Nick Griffin say about Islam (well publicly anyway) is true. But they don&#8217;t fool me. And they won&#8217;t fool the British public. So, chin up, lads.</p>
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		<title>By: j0nz</title>
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		<dc:creator>j0nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no ‘hot’ members of the BNP.

This is simply not true! &lt;a href=&quot;http://drinksoakedtrotsforwar.blogspot.com/2005/08/lets-put-sex-back-in-politics.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nicole Colgate&lt;/a&gt; is pretty hot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no ‘hot’ members of the BNP.</p>
<p>This is simply not true! <a href="http://drinksoakedtrotsforwar.blogspot.com/2005/08/lets-put-sex-back-in-politics.html" rel="nofollow">Nicole Colgate</a> is pretty hot.</p>
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		<title>By: David T</title>
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		<dc:creator>David T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don,

‘All Muslims, like all dogs, share certain characteristics. A dog is not the same animal as a cat just because both species are comprised of different breeds.’

How is this an insult?  You English love your furry friends, moreover, this sentance is a tiny part of a very good article  I have read all three articles, they are intelligent and obviously well thought out. There is no venom or xenophobiia ...so what is the problem?  Is criticising aspects of Muslim theology or differing interpretation of Muslim history hateful?  It is a shame that Britain has allowed itself to become such an insecure society, where any criticism of Islam is met with intimidation reminiscent of the anti-Communist McCarthy era in the US.  



Sid

&quot;well can you blame them? Dogs are positively sweet compared to bigoted inbred goré chimps. tut tut tut.&quot;

My friend if we are going to discuss the topic of inbreds in the multiculti west then I think we can agree that the Muslim community places first when it comes to consanguineous marriages.  Perhaps your parents are first cousins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,</p>
<p>‘All Muslims, like all dogs, share certain characteristics. A dog is not the same animal as a cat just because both species are comprised of different breeds.’</p>
<p>How is this an insult?  You English love your furry friends, moreover, this sentance is a tiny part of a very good article  I have read all three articles, they are intelligent and obviously well thought out. There is no venom or xenophobiia &#8230;so what is the problem?  Is criticising aspects of Muslim theology or differing interpretation of Muslim history hateful?  It is a shame that Britain has allowed itself to become such an insecure society, where any criticism of Islam is met with intimidation reminiscent of the anti-Communist McCarthy era in the US.  </p>
<p>Sid</p>
<p>&#8220;well can you blame them? Dogs are positively sweet compared to bigoted inbred goré chimps. tut tut tut.&#8221;</p>
<p>My friend if we are going to discuss the topic of inbreds in the multiculti west then I think we can agree that the Muslim community places first when it comes to consanguineous marriages.  Perhaps your parents are first cousins.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean maybe Mike is a horse and is complaining about how horses are marginalised on Pickled Politics and that&#039;s why he doesnt mind Muslims being called dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean maybe Mike is a horse and is complaining about how horses are marginalised on Pickled Politics and that&#8217;s why he doesnt mind Muslims being called dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he is a horse ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he is a horse <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: raz</title>
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		<dc:creator>raz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Pastry Ghoras. Yum!&quot;

Are you French? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pastry Ghoras. Yum!&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you French? <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/dablog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David T</title>
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		<dc:creator>David T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastry Ghoras. Yum!</description>
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