too often, and shamefully so, the education system is required to adapt to the prevailing pop political slogan of the day. got a social problem? stick something in the curriculum and it will be solved!

i beleive in the right to create education and that variety breeds further creativity. education is reproductive of the values and philosophy you run through it. Somewhat resembling Noah’s Ark, the UK hosts hundreds of different knowledge cultures, very few of which express themselves actively in the field of education.

ive seen enough incompetance in the state and elite sector for the ‘institutional incapacity’ argument to be irrelavent.

somali muslims? i dont know, would have to ask relavent educationalists. if the dominating paradigm of white studies renders my identities weak and invisible im going to venture out on my own.

I think state schooling is cumbersome. too many talented graduates are rendered invalid by the strictures of the national curriculum and too many untalented graduates are trained to provide a ‘Banking education’

Certainly rattled your cage haven’t I. Once again people will either simply not read what is written, or do, and then filter it through their own prejudices.

Bullshit, you’re a troll and a waste of fucking space.

or are you of the ‘you are radicalising them by letting them know this’ hocus pocus.”

I’m not really sure. I have a 13 year old (white) niece who goes to a Lambeth (South London) comprehensive, and I was just wondering how it would be if you were to seperate out people acording to their race. Would kids of Somalian Muslim background fit the ”all-black” criteria? (”Of course”, you’d imagine, but what about mixed race youngsters who had been brought up in a white family? Get them in touch with their Africaness? (and downplay their Englishness?)
When I drive past highschools as the kids come out in the afternoon (like I just did today in London), I can’t imagine why you’d start splitting people up on race lines. Especially when the schools have kids from just about everwhere on earth.

Fug, this website seems to move on quite quickly, and after about three days, if you haven’t made your point in it’s entirety, then things will have moved on to the next subject. Which is a pity I think, as it can take that long for some people to just get started.

For example, this article in Spiked-online COULD be just the beginning of a conversation.
It struck me as being significant anyway:

”Chaining black youth to the victim culture.
Are the commemorations of the abolition of the slave trade helping to foster fatalism amongst young black Britons?”
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/3002/

And I found this from ‘billericaydicky’ to be interesting too. I remember the name of Blair Peach …. and I didn’t know (but might have guessed) that there was sectarian SWP/ANL politics involved in what happened back then. That Lee Jasper had something to say about this, sounds about right.
I don’t know any detail, I just mean, that it sounds like the sort of thing Lee Jasper would be involved in, (from hearing him being interviewed in recent years).
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:j3dzH81XAOgJ:www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1916+blair+peach+lee+jasper&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk

Certainly rattled your cage haven’t I. Once again people will either simply not read what is written, or do, and then filter it through their own prejudices.

What I was trying to get across is that because someone writes for the Mail or the Standard doesn’t make eveything they say wrong. That is a mantra of the Marxist left. There are certain things that the left hold as holy writ and anyone who disagrees is fascist/racist/New Labour you could go on and on. The same thinking seems to exist on PP.

I would describe myself as Left Libertarian. I am oppoesed to racism and facism of all kinds, for the Welfare State of which I was on of the first beneficiaries being born in 1946. I believe in the rule of law and think that it has been serially abused by New Labour.

I am also utterly opposed to the Race Relations Industry in all its forms and am happy that it is being rolled back as all it has done is feather nests of a corrupt elite and fuel the BNP as white people saw, quite correctly, that it was anti them. I believe in a level playing field, not as in the case of so called “positive discrimination” the playing field being tipped against white people.

I could go on but I hope that people get the drift. Never accept any kind of orthodoxy,always question what is being said and make your own judgements and be your own person. The herd mentality leads to dictatorships be they left/right or racial.

Anyway as this all started with Gilligan, what has he said about Jasper and cronies that is wrong? Can anyone answer that for me?

Sunny,

I’ll give you a conducted tour of the East End if you like, I know its history as I helped make some of the recent stuff.

Coming up soon is the anniversary of the death of Blair Peach killed by the Mets Special Patrol Group in April 1979 when we were opposing a National Front march through Southall. I was a friend of his and was out on the day. I might have even been the last person to have spoken to him before the cops attacked us.

A group of us are getting together to remember him and keen to get in touch with people from West London who were involved in the events that led to his death and the aftermath. We can be contacted on Southall79@googlemail.com.

For the twentieth anniversary Lee Jasper and the National Assembly Against Racism were asked to get involved but Lee Jasper personally refused on the grounds that Blairwas white and was racist “even if he didn’t know it”, how sick can you get?

I just thought I would let you all know that is the man who is apparently being hounded by Gilligan and defended by a lot of people out there.

Leon,

Grow up son.

Go fuck yourself.

folks should probably not bring her up anymore.

(metaphorical) death by silencing.

has…..Melanie Phillips…..ever said anything that was untrue.

One notable example is the fact that in an article in the Daily Mail after the terrorist attack on Mumbai last November, she falsely claimed that the terrorists were deliberately identifying Muslims amongst the population they were targetting so that they would avoid killing the latter.

In reality, the firing was indiscriminate, and Muslim inhabitants of Mumbai were amongst the casualties.