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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-15170</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do accept that in some places its a necessary exercise to raise the profile of certain projects. I&#039;ll add the clause that in developing countries this day makes more sense... in post-industrial countries like UK it smacks of tokenism to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do accept that in some places its a necessary exercise to raise the profile of certain projects. I&#8217;ll add the clause that in developing countries this day makes more sense&#8230; in post-industrial countries like UK it smacks of tokenism to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Vijay</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-15166</link>
		<dc:creator>Vijay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blank Noise Project was a wonderful drive to bring out the opinions into the public domain.

My Blog :http://India-IT-Pulse.blogspot.com

Vijay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blank Noise Project was a wonderful drive to bring out the opinions into the public domain.</p>
<p>My Blog :<a href="http://India-IT-Pulse.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://India-IT-Pulse.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>Vijay</p>
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		<title>By: Sid D H Arthur</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14924</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid D H Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Galloise.

If IWD is tokenism, then the &lt;a href=&quot;http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=82&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;story of Suraya&lt;/a&gt; by Shafiur should be a reason why this particular tokenism in Muslim countries is necessary and valid.

Also from BD, an article on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/03/08/d50308090177.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Origins of IWD&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Galloise.</p>
<p>If IWD is tokenism, then the <a href="http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=82" rel="nofollow">story of Suraya</a> by Shafiur should be a reason why this particular tokenism in Muslim countries is necessary and valid.</p>
<p>Also from BD, an article on the <a href="http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/03/08/d50308090177.htm" rel="nofollow">Origins of IWD</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Galloise Blonde</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14923</link>
		<dc:creator>Galloise Blonde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Women&#039;s eNews reports some International Women&#039;s Day action in Iran:

Iranian police charged a peaceful gathering of women&#039;s rights activists meeting in Tehran to celebrate International Women&#039;s Day, Human Rights Watch reported March 9. Hundreds of women had gathered at Tehran&#039;s Daneshjoo Park on March 8, but shortly afterwards the park was surrounded by anti-riot police and Revolutionary Guards who ordered the women to disperse. When the women staged a sit-in instead, the police dumped cans of garbage on the women&#039;s heads and charged into the group using batons to move them out of the park.

I disagree that IWD is tokenism: a lot of women&#039;s groups use IWD to draw attention to their year-round activities, which otherwise stay under the radar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women&#8217;s eNews reports some International Women&#8217;s Day action in Iran:</p>
<p>Iranian police charged a peaceful gathering of women&#8217;s rights activists meeting in Tehran to celebrate International Women&#8217;s Day, Human Rights Watch reported March 9. Hundreds of women had gathered at Tehran&#8217;s Daneshjoo Park on March 8, but shortly afterwards the park was surrounded by anti-riot police and Revolutionary Guards who ordered the women to disperse. When the women staged a sit-in instead, the police dumped cans of garbage on the women&#8217;s heads and charged into the group using batons to move them out of the park.</p>
<p>I disagree that IWD is tokenism: a lot of women&#8217;s groups use IWD to draw attention to their year-round activities, which otherwise stay under the radar.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiran</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14896</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Gender equality should be an action plan - straight up, not some tokenistic memorial day. &#039;

I agree with your remark, but you hardly have people doing something about equality. What am saying is that these days help in putting a point forward which is that women too want a place in today&#039;s society and this goes for other states who are ignorant about women&#039;s rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Gender equality should be an action plan &#8211; straight up, not some tokenistic memorial day. &#8216;</p>
<p>I agree with your remark, but you hardly have people doing something about equality. What am saying is that these days help in putting a point forward which is that women too want a place in today&#8217;s society and this goes for other states who are ignorant about women&#8217;s rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14807</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 23:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kiran - it&#039;s a failure of society that we actually need an International Women&#039;s Day in the first place. After all, an International Men&#039;s day is ludicrous, isn&#039;t it.

I&#039;m just saying that the existence of these days, while it ends up raising the profile of some worthwhile projects, allows people to give the impression they care while doing nothing more. Like I said - what exactly needs more awareness? Gender equality should be an action plan - straight up, not some tokenistic memorial day. 

(and mirax - I was planning to plug Blank Noise anyway, just wanted the angle)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiran &#8211; it&#8217;s a failure of society that we actually need an International Women&#8217;s Day in the first place. After all, an International Men&#8217;s day is ludicrous, isn&#8217;t it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just saying that the existence of these days, while it ends up raising the profile of some worthwhile projects, allows people to give the impression they care while doing nothing more. Like I said &#8211; what exactly needs more awareness? Gender equality should be an action plan &#8211; straight up, not some tokenistic memorial day. </p>
<p>(and mirax &#8211; I was planning to plug Blank Noise anyway, just wanted the angle)</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14804</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 23:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because this was a blog based campaign I can sort of see what you&#039;re saying.  So long as it doesn&#039;t just stay there and becomes more far reaching then it&#039;s all good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because this was a blog based campaign I can sort of see what you&#8217;re saying.  So long as it doesn&#8217;t just stay there and becomes more far reaching then it&#8217;s all good.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiran</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14802</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I think its days like these that actually make the governments aware that there are women out there fighting for there rights.They want to be treated equally and they are given a day to do so.

This day also brings in awareness to women who have lost hope whlie they are being oppressed. It is not a stunt they are staging, they are making a place for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I think its days like these that actually make the governments aware that there are women out there fighting for there rights.They want to be treated equally and they are given a day to do so.</p>
<p>This day also brings in awareness to women who have lost hope whlie they are being oppressed. It is not a stunt they are staging, they are making a place for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14798</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Sunny. 
I&#039;m more interested in real practical help, such as govt incentives for job share schemes and efforts to tackle domestic violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Sunny.<br />
I&#8217;m more interested in real practical help, such as govt incentives for job share schemes and efforts to tackle domestic violence.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14794</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s rather like a &#039;diversity day&#039; at any organisation. Unless its part of the actual strategy, then tokenistic &#039;awareness raising days&#039; end up being one-off things than an actual part of everything.

Why do we need awareness raising about 50% of our society? It&#039;s ludicrous! What do you need awareness raising about? That women exist? That they deserve equal rights? It&#039;s preaching the the converted - all these events. I would rather that the government, and companies, spend money on actually enforcing equality than spending time and effort on one-off days and thereby giving the illusion that &quot;they care&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s rather like a &#8216;diversity day&#8217; at any organisation. Unless its part of the actual strategy, then tokenistic &#8216;awareness raising days&#8217; end up being one-off things than an actual part of everything.</p>
<p>Why do we need awareness raising about 50% of our society? It&#8217;s ludicrous! What do you need awareness raising about? That women exist? That they deserve equal rights? It&#8217;s preaching the the converted &#8211; all these events. I would rather that the government, and companies, spend money on actually enforcing equality than spending time and effort on one-off days and thereby giving the illusion that &#8220;they care&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14784</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said squared!

People seem to forget that special days such as this are there to raise awareness which I personally believe they do.  There may be a hint of PR in there but the ultimate goal will always be raising awareness and if it gets people to stand up and take note then it can&#039;t be anything bad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said squared!</p>
<p>People seem to forget that special days such as this are there to raise awareness which I personally believe they do.  There may be a hint of PR in there but the ultimate goal will always be raising awareness and if it gets people to stand up and take note then it can&#8217;t be anything bad!</p>
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		<title>By: Siddhartha Singh Muslim</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14781</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddhartha Singh Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny, I don&#039;t think tokenism is the right word for an awareness raising day. Its a time for women to celebrate themselves, their achievements and also to discuss their obstacles and their failures. I went to a Bengali women&#039;s IWD &quot;function&quot; in the East End on Sunday and it was very rewarding and not to mention a part-ay. If thats tokenism then Id&#039; say that&#039;s good tokenism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny, I don&#8217;t think tokenism is the right word for an awareness raising day. Its a time for women to celebrate themselves, their achievements and also to discuss their obstacles and their failures. I went to a Bengali women&#8217;s IWD &#8220;function&#8221; in the East End on Sunday and it was very rewarding and not to mention a part-ay. If thats tokenism then Id&#8217; say that&#8217;s good tokenism.</p>
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		<title>By: squared</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14780</link>
		<dc:creator>squared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Special days in general are bound to become nothing more than PR stunts - but if it raises awareness, what&#039;s the problem?

Would you have mentioned this group had it not been International Women&#039;s day? Probably not sunny, because, admit it or not, the fact that the day was there reminded you of these issues and the people out there fighting for them.

Couple that with the fact that it reminds WOMEN themselves what they have achieved and what they can accomplish, and I&#039;d say it&#039;s a tad bit more exciting and effective than Valentine&#039;s day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Special days in general are bound to become nothing more than PR stunts &#8211; but if it raises awareness, what&#8217;s the problem?</p>
<p>Would you have mentioned this group had it not been International Women&#8217;s day? Probably not sunny, because, admit it or not, the fact that the day was there reminded you of these issues and the people out there fighting for them.</p>
<p>Couple that with the fact that it reminds WOMEN themselves what they have achieved and what they can accomplish, and I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s a tad bit more exciting and effective than Valentine&#8217;s day.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14775</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, well I knew someone was going to pull me up on that. The way I see it, women&#039;s rights is an every day thing... it&#039;s how society should be structured and formulated. Having a one off day not only makes no difference, it smacks of tokenism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, well I knew someone was going to pull me up on that. The way I see it, women&#8217;s rights is an every day thing&#8230; it&#8217;s how society should be structured and formulated. Having a one off day not only makes no difference, it smacks of tokenism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14765</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Iâ€™d think that youâ€™re flirting (very ineptly) Jay if I didnâ€™t know better&lt;/i&gt;

You have lost the freakin&#039; plot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Iâ€™d think that youâ€™re flirting (very ineptly) Jay if I didnâ€™t know better</i></p>
<p>You have lost the freakin&#8217; plot</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14764</link>
		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d think that you&#039;re flirting (very ineptly) Jay if I didn&#039;t know better..;-) Get a life!

Also learn to read. Asking Sunny for an explanation for a rather throwaway sentence (and sentiment) or questioning his choice of subject is pretty legit and NOT a PERSONAL attack. I know this sort of niceties often escape you but you gotta try boy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d think that you&#8217;re flirting (very ineptly) Jay if I didn&#8217;t know better..;-) Get a life!</p>
<p>Also learn to read. Asking Sunny for an explanation for a rather throwaway sentence (and sentiment) or questioning his choice of subject is pretty legit and NOT a PERSONAL attack. I know this sort of niceties often escape you but you gotta try boy!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm..mirax, bit personal that, play the ball not the person....whoops!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm..mirax, bit personal that, play the ball not the person&#8230;.whoops!</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/351#comment-14760</link>
		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yesterday was International Womenâ€™s Day which I nominally regard as a silly PR stunt&quot;

Why? 

Not wanting to knock you around too much, Sunny (we wimin are known for our boundless kindness rather than our ass-kickin prowess, afterall), but an Indian blog project about eve teasing was all you found worthy of making an exception for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yesterday was International Womenâ€™s Day which I nominally regard as a silly PR stunt&#8221;</p>
<p>Why? </p>
<p>Not wanting to knock you around too much, Sunny (we wimin are known for our boundless kindness rather than our ass-kickin prowess, afterall), but an Indian blog project about eve teasing was all you found worthy of making an exception for?</p>
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