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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/346#comment-14742</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With you on Shuggy. Hard nosed worthwhile dude.</description>
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		<title>By: Sid D H Arthur</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/346#comment-14732</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid D H Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;as I type this I can almost see Sidâ€™s trigger-finger twitching, Jack Palance style&lt;/i&gt;

Harry&#039;s scratchin&#039; makin&#039; me twitch.

When I want to a read pro-War point well made, or stuff that really makes me rethink my tendency to creep up my own rectum (yes, I know, I know but its not a bad place to get some thinking done) I read &lt;a href=&quot;http://modies.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shuggy&#039;s Blog&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t often agree with the man, but I totally respect his ability with words and the obvious sincerity and his ability to pack more pathos into a sentence than most can into an entire blog. I tend to find he goes well with a fat spliff and 23 Skidoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>as I type this I can almost see Sidâ€™s trigger-finger twitching, Jack Palance style</i></p>
<p>Harry&#8217;s scratchin&#8217; makin&#8217; me twitch.</p>
<p>When I want to a read pro-War point well made, or stuff that really makes me rethink my tendency to creep up my own rectum (yes, I know, I know but its not a bad place to get some thinking done) I read <a href="http://modies.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Shuggy&#8217;s Blog</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t often agree with the man, but I totally respect his ability with words and the obvious sincerity and his ability to pack more pathos into a sentence than most can into an entire blog. I tend to find he goes well with a fat spliff and 23 Skidoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/346#comment-14725</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;There is a push, a major push, to divide us all into our nominated categories. That I am afraid I find repulsive.&#039;

I could not agree more. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;There is a push, a major push, to divide us all into our nominated categories. That I am afraid I find repulsive.&#8217;</p>
<p>I could not agree more. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/346#comment-14718</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 21:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have written it for him. He clearly does not address the philosophical issue of forgiveness - without ending up calling for more war.

I, well I prefer less war. What other purpose is there for forgiveness in this context.

As for forgiveness, each individual affected has to deal with the pain in their own way. I am totally with Julies Nicholson, and similarly I am with the parents of the children killed in Iraq, Palestine and yes of course in Israel - to name but a few places.

There is a push, a major push, to divide us all into our nominated categories. That I am afraid I find repulsive. I suspect unwittingly Harry becomes a part of that push.

To justify his one war, he has to justify more war. And in what started as an enlightened piece on forgiveness - he ends up where he&#039;s always been (it seems).

My Palance-style first reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have written it for him. He clearly does not address the philosophical issue of forgiveness &#8211; without ending up calling for more war.</p>
<p>I, well I prefer less war. What other purpose is there for forgiveness in this context.</p>
<p>As for forgiveness, each individual affected has to deal with the pain in their own way. I am totally with Julies Nicholson, and similarly I am with the parents of the children killed in Iraq, Palestine and yes of course in Israel &#8211; to name but a few places.</p>
<p>There is a push, a major push, to divide us all into our nominated categories. That I am afraid I find repulsive. I suspect unwittingly Harry becomes a part of that push.</p>
<p>To justify his one war, he has to justify more war. And in what started as an enlightened piece on forgiveness &#8211; he ends up where he&#8217;s always been (it seems).</p>
<p>My Palance-style first reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 18:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see. When you asked &#039;What do you know about Harry&#039; I was a bit confused. Thought you were referring to some specific information (such as he&#039;s the bastard son of Karl Rove and Anne Winterton).

As far as I can gather he&#039;s a pro-war socialist who tends to agree with the likes of Cohen, Hitchens and Ari. So I wouldn&#039;t be suprised if many of his contributions are pro-war. I don&#039;t know if they all are, as I don&#039;t follow that closely. But surely the blog is widely known as a place for the pro-war left? Wasn&#039;t that part of its raison d&#039;etre?

What prompted my original question was your choice of this particular article to raise. I saw nothing duplicitous about it. A perfectly valid topic, a coherent standpoint consistent with previous arguments and a generally intelligent and thoughtful response, always excepting the morons, such as &#039;a thought&#039; who try to whip up a shouting match and all too often succeed. One of the reasons I seldom post there is that when you find a promising contribution the thread is already 130 comments long, with 100 of them being the same people hurling the same abuse at each other.

For myself, I generally find about 70% of the contributors&#039; articles worthwhile ( I can&#039;t really sustain that much interest in Galloway). I can quite appreciate that you are coming from a different perspective, as many people do ( as I type this I can almost see Sid&#039;s trigger-finger twitching, Jack Palance style) but on that specific thread, I think you are stretching it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see. When you asked &#8216;What do you know about Harry&#8217; I was a bit confused. Thought you were referring to some specific information (such as he&#8217;s the bastard son of Karl Rove and Anne Winterton).</p>
<p>As far as I can gather he&#8217;s a pro-war socialist who tends to agree with the likes of Cohen, Hitchens and Ari. So I wouldn&#8217;t be suprised if many of his contributions are pro-war. I don&#8217;t know if they all are, as I don&#8217;t follow that closely. But surely the blog is widely known as a place for the pro-war left? Wasn&#8217;t that part of its raison d&#8217;etre?</p>
<p>What prompted my original question was your choice of this particular article to raise. I saw nothing duplicitous about it. A perfectly valid topic, a coherent standpoint consistent with previous arguments and a generally intelligent and thoughtful response, always excepting the morons, such as &#8216;a thought&#8217; who try to whip up a shouting match and all too often succeed. One of the reasons I seldom post there is that when you find a promising contribution the thread is already 130 comments long, with 100 of them being the same people hurling the same abuse at each other.</p>
<p>For myself, I generally find about 70% of the contributors&#8217; articles worthwhile ( I can&#8217;t really sustain that much interest in Galloway). I can quite appreciate that you are coming from a different perspective, as many people do ( as I type this I can almost see Sid&#8217;s trigger-finger twitching, Jack Palance style) but on that specific thread, I think you are stretching it.</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to find his contributions one-dimensional, with everything latched to the one agenda - pro-war. Including the one on forgiveness.

Am I wrong? A genuine question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to find his contributions one-dimensional, with everything latched to the one agenda &#8211; pro-war. Including the one on forgiveness.</p>
<p>Am I wrong? A genuine question.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/346#comment-14694</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 09:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reason not the need.

What does one need to know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reason not the need.</p>
<p>What does one need to know?</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/346#comment-14693</link>
		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 08:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure I need to expand.

What do you know about Harry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I need to expand.</p>
<p>What do you know about Harry?</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Duplicitous opening&#039;

That&#039;s rather gnomic. Would you care to expand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Duplicitous opening&#8217;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s rather gnomic. Would you care to expand?</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that thoughtful since it seemed to be an opening to yet another call to arms. Duplicitous opening I thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that thoughtful since it seemed to be an opening to yet another call to arms. Duplicitous opening I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refresh,

Apart from the inevitable moron, that was a very thoughtful thread. What is your problem with it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refresh,</p>
<p>Apart from the inevitable moron, that was a very thoughtful thread. What is your problem with it?</p>
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		<title>By: Refresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Refresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until we get a connection from j0nz can I just digress a little:

- does anyone know who Harry is at Harry&#039;s Place? 

I occasionally go there when I am nearly comatose after catching up with the blogs. 

Its just that he&#039;s gone all philosophical about forgiveness. 

I didn&#039;t stay long enough to reach a conclusion on where he&#039;s at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until we get a connection from j0nz can I just digress a little:</p>
<p>- does anyone know who Harry is at Harry&#8217;s Place? </p>
<p>I occasionally go there when I am nearly comatose after catching up with the blogs. </p>
<p>Its just that he&#8217;s gone all philosophical about forgiveness. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t stay long enough to reach a conclusion on where he&#8217;s at.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/346#comment-14673</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the connection j0nz? I&#039;m still waiting for that one to click.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the connection j0nz? I&#8217;m still waiting for that one to click.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid D H Arthur</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/346#comment-14671</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid D H Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traffic must be slow at Harry&#039;s Anxiety Attack tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traffic must be slow at Harry&#8217;s Anxiety Attack tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/346#comment-14670</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J0nz,

... Oh, never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J0nz,</p>
<p>&#8230; Oh, never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: j0nz</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/346#comment-14669</link>
		<dc:creator>j0nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry OT

More freedom of expression from the religion of peace

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1442293,curpg-2.cms</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry OT</p>
<p>More freedom of expression from the religion of peace</p>
<p><a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1442293,curpg-2.cms" rel="nofollow">http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1442293,curpg-2.cms</a></p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys appear to be marxists, if their choice of name is significant;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapion_Brothers

It would be interesting to see the newsletter. Criticising fellow students covers a lot of ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys appear to be marxists, if their choice of name is significant;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapion_Brothers" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapion_Brothers</a></p>
<p>It would be interesting to see the newsletter. Criticising fellow students covers a lot of ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Anand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 10:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Matthew Boulton college and their thinking on this was probably influenced by the fact that their studentship is comprised of a great variety of backgrounds of people doing A Levels and Btecs etc. I know that there is a history of tension between students there especially between Sikhs and Muslims and any delicacy on such matters has to be seen in the light of this. 

Birmingham + 6th Form College + In-Your-Face Religious Politics is an incendiary combination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Matthew Boulton college and their thinking on this was probably influenced by the fact that their studentship is comprised of a great variety of backgrounds of people doing A Levels and Btecs etc. I know that there is a history of tension between students there especially between Sikhs and Muslims and any delicacy on such matters has to be seen in the light of this. </p>
<p>Birmingham + 6th Form College + In-Your-Face Religious Politics is an incendiary combination.</p>
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