Is Bobby Jindal’s presidential bid over?


by Sunny
26th February, 2009 at 10:14 am    

Oh dear. The Republican party thought they’d pick Bobby Jindal to rebut President Obama’s first address to a joint session of Congress. Just to take up that task was politically naive, but Jindal’s speech and delivery was so cringe-worthy that even Republicans panned it. That 2012 presidential bid looks over. Best line of the night goes to Nate Silver:

If it sounds like Jindal is targeting his speech to a room full of fourth graders, that’s because he is. They might be the next people to actually vote for Republicans again.

Heh.


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  1. platinum786 — on 26th February, 2009 at 11:28 am  

    Lets discuss the name Bobby.

    How he get the name Bobby;

    1. He has a “white” parent.
    2. His parents gave him a “white” name.
    3. He took it up for politics/fitting in.
    4. He’s one of those people with a very traditional asian name but his family/friends have given him a completely different name all together, a loving nickname, such as Bobby, Nicky, Goldie, Sam, Mo.

  2. A Councillor Writes — on 26th February, 2009 at 12:12 pm  

    His legal name is Piyush, he uses Bobby for political purposes. He’s also a convert to Catholicism. However, using “nicknames” is absolutely normal in US politics and they can even appear on the ballot paper in some states

  3. Bishop Hill — on 26th February, 2009 at 12:30 pm  

    Bit like Tony Benn and Tony Blair, I suppose.

  4. Ravendome — on 26th February, 2009 at 12:35 pm  

    Sunny – good post.

    I’m glad BJ made a tit out of himself. Though there used to be the whole ‘burden of representation’ arguement, good to see now that even ‘we’ can choose to be on the wrong side (though hopefully not too often…).

    More about Bobby Jindal and a link to a recent New Statesman article about him at:
    http://londonmasalaandchips.blogspot.com/2009/01/bobby-jindal-asian-obama.html

  5. Ravi Naik — on 26th February, 2009 at 2:24 pm  

    Bobby Jindal is a Rhode scholar – and not intellectually challenged as Bush, Sarah Palin and your average Republican politician. Yet, he was over-coached to deliver the Republican message – which these days is just filled with hypocrisy and utter delusion. The worst part, is that he criticised spending money monitoring a volcano which could kill thousands, when his State suffered Katrina.

    He is not over. But he would well wait the next 12 years. He – and most Republicans – can’t compete against Obama. And Jindal needs to find his own voice, move to the centre (as Obama did from the Left) and ditch the Republican message of screwing up the masses.

    Lets discuss the name Bobby.

    Let’s discuss how you got the name “platinium”. Was it to compensate the lack of quality of your comments?

  6. Shamit — on 26th February, 2009 at 2:50 pm  

    Let’s discuss how you got the name “platinium”. Was it to compensate the lack of quality of your comments?

    Brilliant

    And on the topic, pundits said Bill Clinton’s national political ambitions were over when he made the nominating speech in 1988 for Dukakis. He was elected President of the US in 1992.

    I don’t think Jindal wants to run for President in 2012 unless like senior Bush, Obama starts losing his popularity drastically. Which I think is improbable at this point.

    Jindal is a good Governor even Democrats say that. He is a good speaker though he had a bad night the other day. But following Obama is difficult on any day and the President was fantastic that night.

    I think Biden won’t go for the top job even after Obama finishes his second term and that opens possibilities for Jindal in 2016. Mark Pawlenty is also not a bad choice either for Republicans and I am sure others would crop up sooner or later. Wonder who might follow after Obama in the Democratic Party –

  7. Shamit — on 26th February, 2009 at 2:56 pm  

    However, if I were an American, I would find it hard to vote for the man even though he is Asian — because his politics and my politics are very different.

    His social policies I abhor as any progressive should.

    And I also do not like his assertion that Government cannot be a force for good in tumultuous times.

  8. Leon — on 26th February, 2009 at 3:04 pm  

    That 2012 presidential bid looks over.

    I wouldn’t be so sure of that mate; a lot can change in the next few years. It isn’t completely insane to wonder if we might see a Palin/Jindal ticket in 2012…

  9. Shamit — on 26th February, 2009 at 3:15 pm  

    “….if we might see a Palin/Jindal ticket in 2012…”

    Republicans are dumb but they are not that dumb Leon. The bottom of the ticket looks better than the top of the ticket is a sure fire way for voters to wait for the next time.

    Unless you think thats the Republican way of putting Palin out of the frame in 2016 completely. But Palin winning the nomination has got very long odds.

  10. Sunny — on 26th February, 2009 at 3:41 pm  

    There would be no point to Palin/Jindal. Both only reach the hardcore conservatives – and I’m sure the Republicans can see that having just one on the ticket would be enough to getting those votes.

    I think Palin is intelligent. she’s staying out of the frame to let the fighting carry on. When it comes closer to the election she’ll be back.

    Agree with ravi and shamit. Interesting post ravensdome.

  11. Ravi Naik — on 26th February, 2009 at 3:58 pm  

    I think the fact that Republicans selected McCain in the primaries – despite deep animosity from the base – shows that they are far more pragmatic, and vote for the politician they think have the most chance to win. I don’t see how Sarah Palin could win the Republican nomination in any scenario.

    Unfortunately for Jindal, he has been widely ridiculed from Left to Right, because he sounded just like 30 Rock (US TV show) character – a page by the name of Kenneth Parcel, a naive and nerdy character. It is all over youtube. While a politician can recover from a bad speech, I wonder if they can recover after being transformed into a caricature. I was more optimistic in #5 about his chances, but after reading the reactions and going through his speech, I am less certain.

  12. Sunny — on 26th February, 2009 at 4:00 pm  

    Well, Rush Limbaugh defended him! So all is not over yet. Sometimes I think Rush is a Democrat implant to ensure that party implodes :)

  13. Bill — on 26th February, 2009 at 4:30 pm  

    Most of you folks aren’t from Louisiana, are you? Lil’Bobby Jindal changed his name from Piyush to Bobby as a teenager after watching “The Brady Bunch” and becoming enamoured of Bobby Brady. True.
    He’s called ‘brilliant’ because he usually talks real fast. Of course, that all disappears when he slows down to a more normal talking speed. You saw it live. Despite his giant ambition, he will never be ready for prime time.

  14. Leon — on 26th February, 2009 at 6:49 pm  

    I didn’t say I believed that just that it’s not totally insane to speculate on it. Like I said, you’d have to be mad (or a real political amateur) at this point to be dismissing Jindal or Palin and what they might end up doing in three years time.

  15. Nyrone — on 26th February, 2009 at 11:58 pm  

    Oh god, what a train-crash showing..

    of course he’s not out of anything, the public are fickle, I wouldn’t count him out of the running for anything..

  16. reg373 — on 27th February, 2009 at 3:59 am  

    Well, considering the main competition is Sarah Palin, Jindal will always have a chance… ;^) — more at Balkingpoints.com –
    Check out the World-at-Night satellite view!

  17. Desi Italiana — on 27th February, 2009 at 7:48 am  

    While he was delivering his speech, I silently asked myself “What the fuck he is going on about?” And then when Uncle entered the room, I said, “Uncle, you missed the Republican response, spoken by Bobby Jindal.” He asked, “What did he say?” And Auntie piped up, “Nothing, really.”

    Then, Bhabhiji– who will only pay attention to anything on TV if it has an Indian in it–asked, “What’s his last name again?” And I told her “Jindal.” Auntie asked Bhabhi, “Did you get his gotra? What gotra is that, do you know?”

    Ahh, the joys of watching an American Desi speaking on prime time television with American Desis.

  18. Desi Italiana — on 27th February, 2009 at 7:50 am  

    To be honest, I had never heard him deliver more than a couple of sentences (I always read his website and press releases to assess his positions), and I never knew how much of a Southern twang he has.

  19. Desi Italiana — on 27th February, 2009 at 7:51 am  

    I think I’d be on cloud 9 if there was a Jindal/Palin presidential ticket. Goodbye GOP, let me help you stomp your way out!

  20. Dalbir — on 27th February, 2009 at 1:43 pm  

    A Hindu Panjabi convert to Catholicism who is on the same side as G “Dubya” Bush….hhmm….

    Is there anything this guy won’t do for power?

  21. Cabalamat — on 27th February, 2009 at 3:56 pm  

    @5 Ravi Naik: Bobby Jindal is a Rhode scholar – and not intellectually challenged as Bush

    Jindal says he is a creationist. This means he is either stupid, or pretending to be stupid to get votes.

  22. Ravi Naik — on 27th February, 2009 at 4:00 pm  

    Let me be a real political amateur, but I believe Sarah Palin is over. I don’t see her being chosen to lead the Republican party to the White House in the primaries, nor do I see anyone choosing her as VP. She does not have the support of the Republican establishment (some accusing her of losing the election). She does have a fierce support from the “base”, but the “base” is not enough.

    Jindal is a different story. But I continue to be amazed at how Obama is playing the Republicans, like no other Democrat has done before.

    Here is what’s happening: Republicans from the Senate and the House voted against the stimulus – this is a purely political move, to place themselves as fiscal conservatives. However, that puts Republican governors in a bad spot: they either follow their Republican ideologues and refuse the bailout (and face the wrath of their constituents), or the humbly accept the money they desperately need in their state.

    So far, only a couple of Republican governors have “refused” the bailout – one of them is Jindal in a State that was devastated by Katrina. This has generated a lot of anger in Louisiana. He did it to pander the Republican establishment.

    If Jindal is smart, he will understand the new political reality, stay low for the next 8 to 12 years, work to build his State by accepting the money, and find a new voice for Republicans, not merely follow what they say.

  23. Ravi Naik — on 27th February, 2009 at 4:11 pm  

    Jindal says he is a creationist. This means he is either stupid, or pretending to be stupid to get votes.

    According to Catholic teachings, Creationism and Evolution go hand in hand. I believe this is his position.

    However, he is wrong to believe that Creationism can be taught as science. In Catholic schools, creationism is not taught in science or history classes.

  24. ramiie — on 5th March, 2009 at 9:11 pm  

    Read my thoughts on Black leadership on:

    ramiie-thetruthwillsetusfree.blogspot.com/

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