Reformist Muslims announce Mohammed cartoon contest


by Sunny
22nd February, 2006 at 4:25 pm    

A group of progressive Muslims, annoyed not only at the original cartoons but also of the reaction afterwards, have announced their own contest inviting drawings about prophet Mohammed and Islam. They say:

As islamic reformers and progressive muslims, we believe that people should have legal right to express their opinion or dissent without fear of governments or mobs. In that regard, we applaud the people of Denmark for not censoring their media. History has proven that truth and justice cannot flourish in an environment of suppression and oppression. Though the cartoonists depicted and insulted our beloved prophet Muhammad, a figure that we consider dearer to us than our fathers and mothers, we stand by the rights of cartoonists to express their views.

Who said drawing cartoons was a boring business?


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  1. Rohin — on 22nd February, 2006 at 4:37 pm  

    I once made ‘use of visual media’ to depict Osama Bin Laden. It was me, wearing a beard. I can link to it if you like!

    You can guarantee something like this won’t be covered by LGF and friends.

  2. Patrick Connelly New York — on 22nd February, 2006 at 4:45 pm  

    Islam a religion of peace? They seem to be killing each other in Iraq. Well at least they blew up a Mosque and not another Church……..Now that’s a refreshing change! PS Just joined the British National Party

  3. Sunny — on 22nd February, 2006 at 4:49 pm  

    Hey PCNY, that’s nice of you to tell us. And your point is?

  4. PapaHomer — on 22nd February, 2006 at 4:50 pm  

    oh god…more BNP trolling :-/

    For what it’s worth, the website you link to talks about ‘Crusaders & Zionists’, and ‘The Crusader in Chief’ (aka GWB). Is that the language of progressive muslims? It seems rather inflammatory to me.

  5. Al-Hack — on 22nd February, 2006 at 4:54 pm  

    At a conservative estimate Papa, how many innocent people do you think America’s bombings have killed in Afghanistan and Iraq?

  6. mirax — on 22nd February, 2006 at 5:00 pm  

    I suspect this group – that attacks sunni/shia indiscriminately, seems to have junked about 100% of the hadith and is producing its own “reformist” quran- has like maybe two and a half followers. Def part of the nutter fringe.

  7. PapaHomer — on 22nd February, 2006 at 5:09 pm  

    i think you may be addressing that question to the wrong person AH. I made no comments about Iraq in this thread.

  8. Bikhair — on 22nd February, 2006 at 5:26 pm  

    Jay Singh,

    You asked about Muslims following the disbelievers down the hole of a lizard, here is the proof.

  9. Al-Hack — on 22nd February, 2006 at 5:27 pm  

    It was addressed to you PapaHomer. If you can answer the question, that would be nice. Then I’ll be able to tell you why that website uses the word ‘Crusader’.

  10. jamal — on 22nd February, 2006 at 5:38 pm  

    Well I wont be joining in. This “reformist mmuslims” website (whatever that is) is merely trying to increase its hits.

    A quick read of their rationale and reasons of why their competition previosly FAILED, shows they have a poor understanding of Islam.

  11. Jay Singh — on 22nd February, 2006 at 5:38 pm  

    Bikhair

    I still don’t understand. Where are the lizards? Where are the holes?

  12. Rohin — on 22nd February, 2006 at 6:28 pm  

    As far as I know Al Hack, none of the coalition forces have waged a holy war with the cross of St. George on their armour. You can call Bush a warmonger or say he has blood on his hands. But crusader is inflammatory – it conjures images of spreading the word of Christ through violence.

    Sssssss (sorry, that’s my lizard impression).

  13. Jay Singh — on 22nd February, 2006 at 6:35 pm  

    One thing that occurs to me when the Crusader paradigm is invoked is how it echoes the rhetoric of the right – that any conflict with Muslims, no matter how trivial or real, from a dispute over cartoons to suicide bombing to actual armed conflict – is part of a long history of Jihad.

    You can see this in the use of the term ‘dhimmi’ and ‘dhimmitude’ which have been popularised recently by right wing blogs like LGF. The same recourse to historical events to explain current cultural and social issues without nuance or context. It is also what the Hindu right in India do – place the territorial dispute with Pakistan in a historical continuum of Islamic aggression and Jihad.

    Inflammatory and diversionary.

    *sticks out forked lizard tongue*

    *darts away*

  14. Sid D H Arthur — on 22nd February, 2006 at 8:27 pm  

    Jay and Rohin,
    I’m always up for a larf, but don’t you think you guys are forcing it a bit with the comedy duo act?

    Rohin:
    But crusader is inflammatory – it conjures images of spreading the word of Christ through violence.

    No the word crusade conjures up images of er, the Crusades; when European Christendom went to fight in Jersualem after it fell to the Muslims.

    From wiki:
    Like Muslims, Eastern Orthodox Christians also see the Crusades as attacks by the barbarian West, but centered on the sack of Constantinople in 1204. Many relics and artifacts taken from Constantinople are still in Roman Catholic hands, in the Vatican and elsewhere.

    Jay:

    *sticks out forked lizard tongue*

    *darts away*

    Looks like the magical effects of Amartya on your high-mindedness has all but worn off.

  15. Rohin — on 22nd February, 2006 at 8:39 pm  

    Bagsy I’m Stan.

    Sid, whether you object to our definition of a crusade, do you agree with the point we’re contesting then?

    Namely, that Bush is a crusader and the coalition troops are on a crusade?

    *detaches tail*

  16. Sid D H Arthur — on 22nd February, 2006 at 8:56 pm  

    Perhaps, but someone forgot to tell Dubya when he said it himself

    “This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take a long time “

  17. Don — on 22nd February, 2006 at 9:22 pm  

    Sid, I doubt if Bush’s grasp of history matches yours.

  18. Sid D H Arthur — on 22nd February, 2006 at 9:28 pm  

    Don, he has speech writers who’ve had expensive Liberal Arts educations from Ivy League universities.

  19. j0nz — on 22nd February, 2006 at 9:42 pm  

    We should ALL act to stop this Toonophobia; lick it the bud leek.

  20. Rohin — on 22nd February, 2006 at 9:48 pm  

    How could anyone be afraid of piglet? He’s so cute. Wabbit was my favourite, neurotic old git. Anyone remember the time he tripped out on marsh gas and hallucinated about heffalumps and woozels?

    Yes, interesting how all four protesters are a certain oinksome type of animal there j0nz. Who’s the piggy on the left?

  21. Sid D H Arthur — on 22nd February, 2006 at 9:49 pm  

    See jamal? The j0nz’s of this world are exactly the reason why Muslims need to repurpose the toons. Lest it become a weapon with which he will continue to beat you with. Thats why I support the Reformist Muslim cartoon compeition.

    As the Old Dhaka expression goes:
    ‘Say Bismillah and swallow it”

  22. Rohin — on 22nd February, 2006 at 9:49 pm  

    It’s Olivia, is it? Not sure.

  23. Sid D H Arthur — on 22nd February, 2006 at 10:00 pm  

    Looks like j0nz, Harry’s Platz and the others are in sterling company

  24. Sunny — on 22nd February, 2006 at 10:02 pm  

    The fact is: given two current wars based on dodgy evidence and the way the American govt has suddenly declared the mujahadein as enemies no. 1 after being best buddies for years, may get some people to consider the invasion of Iraq as an extension of a long history of Western govt meddling in the Middle East. Words have different connotations for different people.

    So just because they use the word American crusader when describing the government doesn’t mean automatically they’re terrorist nutters. Delve a bit deeper into their thinking rather than just picking out words that offend you.

  25. jamal — on 22nd February, 2006 at 10:14 pm  

    ‘Say Bismillah and swallow it”

    Sid, this is not possible, not to me anyhow.

    There is a hadith that says something along the lines of; “the kafirs will not be contented until you give up your religion and become like them”.

    I seek not to make such people happy.

  26. Rohin — on 22nd February, 2006 at 10:16 pm  

    Is that what you think of all non-Muslims jamal? How sad.

  27. Don — on 22nd February, 2006 at 10:31 pm  

    Sid,

    You know I’m not picky, but I remembered the crusade remark as being an unscripted, spontaneous gaffe, and a little light googling shows most commentators referring to aides as ‘aghast’ etc. I don’t claim to be authoritive on this, I think that was Georgie trying out a long word all by himself.

    The best team of writers in the world still have to work with material like this;

    http://www.glumbert.com/media/speechless.html

  28. Sid D H Arthur — on 22nd February, 2006 at 10:34 pm  

    jamal, you underestimate the power of the basmallah.

    Wise working girls use it all the time to protect themselves from scummy kerb crawlers. The toon freeloaders are nothing if not scummy kerb crawlers.

  29. Bikhair — on 22nd February, 2006 at 10:47 pm  

    Jay Singh,

    I know you know what I mean. Sunny has great timing with this article.

  30. Sid D H Arthur — on 22nd February, 2006 at 10:50 pm  

    Don,
    lol love that link. and the tune’s cool as well.

  31. Jay Singh — on 22nd February, 2006 at 11:13 pm  

    There is a hadith that says something along the lines of; “the kafirs will not be contented until you give up your religion and become like them”.

    You are going to be miserable for the rest of your life dude.

  32. Bijna — on 22nd February, 2006 at 11:17 pm  

    The Crusades started after the Battle of Manzikert to defend Byzantium from the Seljuks. Sadly the Crusaders were incompetent and the Christians in Turkey and Albania have been wiped out.

    As long as McDonalds serves Happy Meals, there will be no new Crusades. So if I were you, check McDonalds every day.

  33. Bijna — on 22nd February, 2006 at 11:23 pm  

    > “the kafirs will not be contented until you give
    > up your religion and become like them”.

    No they just want to travel by train without blowing up
    and make children books with friendly drawings.

    On the other hand, Muslims consider non-Muslims haram, like pigs, dogs and camel piss.

  34. Rohin — on 23rd February, 2006 at 12:17 am  

    I’m sure you already know it, but that vid is looped about 10 times.

  35. Sunny — on 23rd February, 2006 at 1:29 am  

    That’s what I was thinking too…

  36. Bikhair — on 23rd February, 2006 at 3:47 am  

    Bijna,

    “On the other hand, Muslims consider non-Muslims haram, like pigs, dogs and camel piss.”

    Really? Where is your proof for that? Oh thats right you dont have any, and so goes the understanding of Islam of Bijna.

    How can another human being be haram? Nevermind I know you were just speaking rhetorically.

  37. PapaHomer — on 23rd February, 2006 at 10:20 am  

    It was the Mujahideen who declared war against America Sunny, or had you forgotten? And Al-Hack, i really don’t know the numbers. How many have been killed by the Mujahideen i wonder? Yet they are still called ‘Mujahideen’…And it’s not just in Iraq is it? How many have died in Darfur? There’s nothing holy about what they are doing. Sorry for sneering at the selective outrage. Maybe you could tell me explain it to me after you’ve explained why i should take seriously anybody who refers to Crusaders & Zionists in the same sentence.

  38. Vikrant — on 23rd February, 2006 at 12:08 pm  

    I’ll be sending in my yet-to-be-named entry. Its not much, frankly you guys may have seen more artistic chimpanzees.

  39. Sunny — on 23rd February, 2006 at 1:17 pm  

    frankly you guys may have seen more artistic chimpanzee

    Did you hear about that chimp who could paint… can’t remember where he was now. Are you competing with him? :D

    It was the Mujahideen who declared war against America Sunny, or had you forgotten?

    Maybe you could tell me when this happened exactly PapaHomer.

  40. Bikhair — on 23rd February, 2006 at 9:10 pm  

    Jamal,

    “There is a hadith that says something along the lines of; “the kafirs will not be contented until you give up your religion and become like them”. ”

    That maybe be a hadith but I know that that is an ayat of the Quran.

  41. Edip Yuksel — on 26th February, 2006 at 3:51 am  

    We will be publishing the cartoons we are receiving by God’s after March 19 at the following sites:

    http://www.19.org
    http://www.islamicreform.org

    Peace,
    EY

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