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		<title>By: Pickled Politics &#187; Will it all kick off in Germany?</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-15921</link>
		<dc:creator>Pickled Politics &#187; Will it all kick off in Germany?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See also: India-Pak cricket insults force website closure, Aussie racism in cricket - again, Problems for Pakistani women on the pitch [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sadam</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-15296</link>
		<dc:creator>sadam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sadam hussain ia am raan and sulman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sadam hussain ia am raan and sulman</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13231</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>err... it should have been &quot;alpo&quot; there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>err&#8230; it should have been &#8220;alpo&#8221; there</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13230</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bengalis call themselves Bang or Bangla... no prizes for guessing how its pronounced.

Btw Rohin, amro aplo aplo Bangla!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bengalis call themselves Bang or Bangla&#8230; no prizes for guessing how its pronounced.</p>
<p>Btw Rohin, amro aplo aplo Bangla!</p>
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		<title>By: Petals just fell from heaven</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13226</link>
		<dc:creator>Petals just fell from heaven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rohin, so is &#039;bong&#039; a generalised term then?
In other words if I end up calling my colleage (whose Bengali) a bong, he won&#039;t be offended?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohin, so is &#8216;bong&#8217; a generalised term then?<br />
In other words if I end up calling my colleage (whose Bengali) a bong, he won&#8217;t be offended?</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13225</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well most contribs have been occasional para&#039;s or two, but i&#039;ve started: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; article on Marathas &lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_United_Kingdom&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hinduism  in UK &lt;/a&gt; other significant contribs can be checked out here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AMbroodEY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well most contribs have been occasional para&#8217;s or two, but i&#8217;ve started: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha" rel="nofollow"> article on Marathas </a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_United_Kingdom" rel="nofollow">Hinduism  in UK </a> other significant contribs can be checked out here:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AMbroodEY" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/AMbroodEY</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rohin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13192</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>600 wikipedia contributions? I&#039;ve done 3 - which I think are things I know as much as anyone in the world about. Surely you can&#039;t be an expert on 600 things? Name a few of your meaty contributions and I&#039;ll check them out.

That&#039;s nuts, how many days of your life have you lost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>600 wikipedia contributions? I&#8217;ve done 3 &#8211; which I think are things I know as much as anyone in the world about. Surely you can&#8217;t be an expert on 600 things? Name a few of your meaty contributions and I&#8217;ll check them out.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s nuts, how many days of your life have you lost?</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13185</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well El Cid, Indians dont think twice before calling an African a nigger or &quot;kallu&quot; (in Hindi) even if his skin is just a shade darker than theirs! Well in Indian stereotypes,
Bongs are quarrelsome, Gujaratis are cunning enterprenuers, Marathis are meek people white collar and blue collar  ppl, Rajputs are haughty (they call themselves descendents of Sun!), Sikhs are stupid (just like the Irishmen in our jokes),Biharis are unruly, North easterners are Chinese blah blah. Actually Indian culture is not a homogenous entity. With Hindis and South Indians being the dominant ethnicities rest of cultures getting fucked in between. So its a sort of hate-love relationship between them. 

As for Whites, you&#039;d rather not hear the things me gran has gotta say about them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well El Cid, Indians dont think twice before calling an African a nigger or &#8220;kallu&#8221; (in Hindi) even if his skin is just a shade darker than theirs! Well in Indian stereotypes,<br />
Bongs are quarrelsome, Gujaratis are cunning enterprenuers, Marathis are meek people white collar and blue collar  ppl, Rajputs are haughty (they call themselves descendents of Sun!), Sikhs are stupid (just like the Irishmen in our jokes),Biharis are unruly, North easterners are Chinese blah blah. Actually Indian culture is not a homogenous entity. With Hindis and South Indians being the dominant ethnicities rest of cultures getting fucked in between. So its a sort of hate-love relationship between them. </p>
<p>As for Whites, you&#8217;d rather not hear the things me gran has gotta say about them!</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13183</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vikrant authors uncyclopaedia entries on Islam

Well i got more than 600 contribs on Wikipedia mate...
And my biggest contribution to Uncoclopedia has the article on France and Hinduism mindya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vikrant authors uncyclopaedia entries on Islam</p>
<p>Well i got more than 600 contribs on Wikipedia mate&#8230;<br />
And my biggest contribution to Uncoclopedia has the article on France and Hinduism mindya!</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13181</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 16:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why thank you Ro. 
the washing up bottle is supposed to be empty btw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why thank you Ro.<br />
the washing up bottle is supposed to be empty btw</p>
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		<title>By: Rohin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13146</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Washing up liquid? Oh dear oh dear. I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve referred to my bong-expertise on here before (Vikrant authors uncyclopaedia entries on Islam, I contribute to wikipedia entries on specialist bongs), so I shan&#039;t go into details again.

But in this regard, Bong = Bengali. It&#039;s non-derogatory slang, we use to it to describe ourselves as much as (if not more than) others use it to talk about us. I sometimes use it to differentiate between Bongs (from West Bengal) and Bangers (from Bangladesh).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Washing up liquid? Oh dear oh dear. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve referred to my bong-expertise on here before (Vikrant authors uncyclopaedia entries on Islam, I contribute to wikipedia entries on specialist bongs), so I shan&#8217;t go into details again.</p>
<p>But in this regard, Bong = Bengali. It&#8217;s non-derogatory slang, we use to it to describe ourselves as much as (if not more than) others use it to talk about us. I sometimes use it to differentiate between Bongs (from West Bengal) and Bangers (from Bangladesh).</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13144</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahem. What&#039;s a bong Vik? 
I thought it was a rudimentary contrapcion for smoking puff involving a bucket and a bottle of washing up liquid.
Question 2: when you say &quot;Sub-continentels have most unkind things to say about Africans and Whites and even about other Indians,&quot; are there any real-life examples that you can remember? How about one for each?
For social scientific reasons you understand. I&#039;m just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem. What&#8217;s a bong Vik?<br />
I thought it was a rudimentary contrapcion for smoking puff involving a bucket and a bottle of washing up liquid.<br />
Question 2: when you say &#8220;Sub-continentels have most unkind things to say about Africans and Whites and even about other Indians,&#8221; are there any real-life examples that you can remember? How about one for each?<br />
For social scientific reasons you understand. I&#8217;m just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13139</link>
		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 14:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But yes there is an element back there which admires tyrannical leaders, somewhat naively I think&quot;

The dispute is about the relative size of this element. Maybe I am wrong (hardly happens though;-)..) but nearly 1/5 of the grads? Just doesn&#039;t square with my understanding and experience, is all.

That said, indians&#039; racism against africans is on a whole different scale and order compared to their attitudes(often obsequious and forelock tugging) towards  whites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But yes there is an element back there which admires tyrannical leaders, somewhat naively I think&#8221;</p>
<p>The dispute is about the relative size of this element. Maybe I am wrong (hardly happens though;-)..) but nearly 1/5 of the grads? Just doesn&#8217;t square with my understanding and experience, is all.</p>
<p>That said, indians&#8217; racism against africans is on a whole different scale and order compared to their attitudes(often obsequious and forelock tugging) towards  whites.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13134</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But yes there is an element back there which admires tyrannical leaders, somewhat naively I think.

Well having read NCERT History books, i&#039;ve seen a tendency to play down holocaust. Most writers on board being staright outta JNU methinks its generally due to odd Israeli-obbession of Indian &lt;strike&gt;commi&lt;/strike&gt; communists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But yes there is an element back there which admires tyrannical leaders, somewhat naively I think.</p>
<p>Well having read NCERT History books, i&#8217;ve seen a tendency to play down holocaust. Most writers on board being staright outta JNU methinks its generally due to odd Israeli-obbession of Indian <strike>commi</strike> communists.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13133</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bhickrant was bheing funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bhickrant was bheing funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13095</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s possible that the right-wing types back in India who admire Hitler also do so because he fought against the British (&quot;my enemy&#039;s enemy is my friend&quot; etc).

But yes there is an element back there which admires tyrannical leaders, somewhat naively I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s possible that the right-wing types back in India who admire Hitler also do so because he fought against the British (&#8220;my enemy&#8217;s enemy is my friend&#8221; etc).</p>
<p>But yes there is an element back there which admires tyrannical leaders, somewhat naively I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13093</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vikrant, what&#039;s this Bong obsession? At first I just thought it was you poking fun at Sid or me, but it&#039;s gone on and on. Were you molested by a Bengali uncle or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vikrant, what&#8217;s this Bong obsession? At first I just thought it was you poking fun at Sid or me, but it&#8217;s gone on and on. Were you molested by a Bengali uncle or something?</p>
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		<title>By: Neel</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13091</link>
		<dc:creator>Neel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dispute the fact that Gujarat is a steaming cauldron of hate. I&#039;ve been there many times and have regularly seen Hindu/Muslim religious processions passing through areas of the other religion without any problems.

 When i was there 2 weeks ago there was a State holiday for a Muslim festival (cant remember the name) and they had closed many roads for the  procession to pass through. 

Our family friends in Surat&#039;s next door neighbours are Christian and both families couldn&#039;t be closer, religion simply isen&#039;t an issue. The warmth in relations is evident to see.

I got loads more anecdotal evidence but just want to dismiss the idea that everyone in Gujarat is at each others throats !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dispute the fact that Gujarat is a steaming cauldron of hate. I&#8217;ve been there many times and have regularly seen Hindu/Muslim religious processions passing through areas of the other religion without any problems.</p>
<p> When i was there 2 weeks ago there was a State holiday for a Muslim festival (cant remember the name) and they had closed many roads for the  procession to pass through. </p>
<p>Our family friends in Surat&#8217;s next door neighbours are Christian and both families couldn&#8217;t be closer, religion simply isen&#8217;t an issue. The warmth in relations is evident to see.</p>
<p>I got loads more anecdotal evidence but just want to dismiss the idea that everyone in Gujarat is at each others throats !</p>
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		<title>By: Vikrant</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13090</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well yes SS and BD types do admire Hitler. As for Indians being racist, i&#039;d have to agree with Vladmir within our own people Sub-continentels have most unkind things to say about Africans and Whites and even about other Indians. I for one am Bongophobic ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well yes SS and BD types do admire Hitler. As for Indians being racist, i&#8217;d have to agree with Vladmir within our own people Sub-continentels have most unkind things to say about Africans and Whites and even about other Indians. I for one am Bongophobic <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: mirax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/305#comment-13081</link>
		<dc:creator>mirax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 02:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indian fascists- the hindutva brigade - do admire Hitler openly as Indian marxists love Stalin and Mussolini (I know of quite a few Indians named Lenin and Stalin, the mayor of Chennai is one such). BUT, and this is a very big BUT, I&#039;d be extremely wary of any poll that found out 2/5 of Indian uni grads admired Hitler, even in Gujarat which seems a steaming cauldron of hate. 

The indian intelligentsia is overwhelming pro-palestine and sometimes, some are anti-zionist, but antisemitism, just does not have any space in the Indian make-up; there are too many communal/caste grievances for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indian fascists- the hindutva brigade &#8211; do admire Hitler openly as Indian marxists love Stalin and Mussolini (I know of quite a few Indians named Lenin and Stalin, the mayor of Chennai is one such). BUT, and this is a very big BUT, I&#8217;d be extremely wary of any poll that found out 2/5 of Indian uni grads admired Hitler, even in Gujarat which seems a steaming cauldron of hate. </p>
<p>The indian intelligentsia is overwhelming pro-palestine and sometimes, some are anti-zionist, but antisemitism, just does not have any space in the Indian make-up; there are too many communal/caste grievances for that.</p>
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