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  • Stirring up Troubles


    by Rumbold
    23rd January, 2009 at 11:21 pm    

    A government commission, The Consultative Group on the Past, which was established to try and heal some of the wounds caused by British-IRA conflict in Northern Ireland, is likely to recommend that any family who lost someone during the Troubles should be given £12,000 in compensation. This will include IRA terrorists and their Loyalist counterparts:

    “The government is to be asked to pay £12,000 to the families of all those killed during the Troubles - including members of paramilitary groups… The Consultative Group on the Past is to publish its report next week. If the recommendation is accepted by the government, the cost would be an estimated £40m.”

    The commission is a good idea, and hopefully it will allow people to move on (though the £300 million figure for their proposed programme is presumably an exaggeration). However, the idea about death compensation is a bad one. The cost, while fairly high (£40 million), is largely immaterial. The real problem is that it will once again present us with the deeply unpleasant spectacle of terrorists benefiting from their actions. This is likely to increase tensions in Northern Ireland. It was probably necessary to release some IRA terrorists to secure peace in the first place. There is no reason now why the IRA and Loyalist forces need to benefit again. It seems like a step back to many.


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    1. comrade — on 23rd January, 2009 at 11:47 pm  

      This will include IRA terrorists and their Loyalist counterparts:

      Does this include the British terrorist armed forces

    2. Leon — on 24th January, 2009 at 12:32 am  

      It seems like a step back to many.

      Really? Who is this many you’re talking about?

    3. Sunny — on 24th January, 2009 at 1:48 am  

      There is no reason now why the IRA and Loyalist forces need to benefit again. It seems like a step back to many.

      Yeah, who’s the “many”?

      I think you misunderstand the point of such commissions, one of which was also set up in South Africa.

      When the Truth and Reconciliation commission went through its process, it absolved people on both sides who did wrong. Course, you could sit here and moan that the white Afrikaaner terrorists benefited but that is the whole point - you forgive on both sides, not just the ones you consider “terrorists”.

    4. Shamit — on 24th January, 2009 at 2:23 am  

      Comrade — British Armed Forces - Terrorists? But I will let it go as I do not want to derail the thread so early.

      Rumbold -

      I would be concerned and rightly disgusted if those who planned and/or executed terrorist attacks were being given this money. This money is going to their next of kin who probably are as innocent as you and I.

      So forgiving those who have committed the murders or terrorist acts do not arise here in any way. And this is a good gesture sort of accepting society’s failure to have dealt with N. Ireland effectively which directly led to the death of these young people.

      N.Ireland has moved a long way forward now. And if this token amount of 12K helps the community in healing - then why not?

    5. Bert Rustle — on 24th January, 2009 at 9:17 am  

      According to David Trimble on BBC Radio 4, payments may be made to the families of those killed whilst planting bombs to kill others: http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7848000/7848695.stm

      Compared to the Beeston Boys, the Belfast Boys seem rather tame in comparison.

    6. marvin — on 24th January, 2009 at 9:38 am  

      Spot on Rumbold. Bert, that’s terrible. Why do leftists see all sides as equally bad, i.e. innocent victim and murdering psychopath?

      Clichés are springing to mind……..Let bygones be bygones. No good opening up old wounds! etc

      On another point, don’t leftists think that £300 million pounds is better spent elsewhere??? People are being denied life saving drugs because it’s beyond the budget of the health care system in their postcode. And relatives of murdering psychopaths are looking at a tax free 12k windfall?

    7. Rumbold — on 24th January, 2009 at 5:28 pm  

      Comrade:

      I believe so.

      Leon and Sunny:

      I understand the point of such commissions, and I don’t have a problem per se with the cost- if it works then great. But paying out money to murderers is hardly the way to heal a divided society. On that basis, will you be lobbying for payments to Israeli soldiers killed in Gaza? Presumably. Same principle. Just because it worked in South Africa, doesn’t mean that it will work here. And given the reaction of some people (like the DUP) to this news, it doesn’t bode well.

      Shamit:

      I am more worried about the reaction of other people to such payments. If they see those who ruined their lives get rewarded, it will stir up a hornet’s nest.

    8. comrade — on 24th January, 2009 at 9:02 pm  

      7.

      I am more worried about the reaction of other people to such payments. If they see those who ruined their lives get rewarded, it will stir up a hornet’s
      nest.

      I believe the families of those who last there loved ones on all sides will wellcome this decission, thats what all matters. As for the politians in Northen Ireland making Noises, they have no inpact on the Mainland. More people would be upset here, but nobody cares in Northen Ireland what we think anyway

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