yes i think they are, i think she, and no doubt a lo tof the people who put their money into the campaign, are having a good laugh at everyone getting their knickers in a twist and getting all holier than thou abou tit

I wouldn’t be surprised if Ariane’s efforts are intended in an amusing, somewhat mischievous way, even though I still think it’s a bit misguided and inappropriate in some aspects.

you could have two contradictory passages on the two sides of the bus.

oh this is so much fun

yep Douglas.

and again, if i wanted to be sinister and cunning (;-)) i would use some bits from the religious texts to confuse the poor souls. there are some good bits in the Quran that would be good to splash on the side of a bus.

‘beware the false prophet’, ‘don’t have ‘blind faith’ etc. etc. I mean – what a head fuck eh?!

Like ‘you Catholics/Muslims/etc. are all going to hell if you don’t do XXX { something i want to see happen}

If people believe in such things, I guess we’d be fool not to use it. The Republican Party do, all the Mullahs do. why not us? (Ha)

Of course, that would be sinister and manipulative, but hey…

It is silly to take it all too seriously.

That girl is a bit easier on the eye than bloody Dawkins isn’t she.

I might even become an athiest.

ha ha ha

Plus the unpaid assistance they get (because they are set up as charities) which does not even appear on their report & annual accounts.

It’s a heck of a lot of money spent on self-congratulatory antics and preaching to the converted. Oh and riling relgious nuts and stoking their fervour.

Eh? How is this ‘self-congratulatory antics’? If it’s preaching to the converted as you just as critical of all those religious adverts that get posted up?

The money is a drop in the ocean compared to the millions religious groups spend each year ‘spreading the word’…

so what is the point..to remind ppl about a god or no god? and i’m not debating the existence or non existence of god i’m debating the reasoning behind the advert…

Douglas, please refer to my comments 22 and 28…

I’d agree with you in principle. It is a heck of a waste of money, on one level. However what is being fought against is an insult to your intelligence.

Whilst the brain dead are able to publicise their viewpoint, with impunity apparently, I’d be loathe to argue against it.

Unless you see this, on the side of a bus:

“When the son of man comes, will he find faith on the earth?” (Luke 18:8).

as in any way reasoned? I take it that they too had to pay for their advert.

It’s a culture war, I think.

and people don’t have to pay attention to it if they don’t want to – so again, can’t see what the big deal is.

its about promoting an alternative viewpoint – and yes there is something to celebrate about that. a diversity of viewpoints ‘out there’ everyone feel free to add their viewpoint however they choose – publishing on the internet, publishing on the side of the bus, one is free one isn’t. a plurality of viewpoints – i do think – is something to celebrate.

so if someone wants to use the sides of buses to demand a new political party, i’m all up for it. I’ve had it with the limited parties we have, and I for one, would definitely celebrate more choice.

plus, it was funny – i always welcome a touch of humour – that is definitely needed. I would fund a campaign for a ‘lighten up, its only life’ type slogan on the sides of buses, on credit cards (ha ha) and on the walls of banks.

Then I’d expect you’d assume that this:

“When the son of man comes, will he find faith on the earth?” (Luke 18:8).

Is a reasonable use of money?

The godly do it, as a routine. What a lot of idiots, wasting their time on advertising…

well you are kind of directly contradicting your own point – here you are, engaging in debate. why should you assume lots of people out there aren’t similarly chatting, over the dinner table perhaps, about what they saw on the side of a bus, and what it may or may not have made them think.

and i doubt very much the point of the campaign was ‘conversion’ – why do you assume that? is it because religions are out to ‘convert’?

if someone wants to spend their money reassuring the public that there is probably no hell (which is really what worries people) well what’s the problem? you might think it is one if you feel strongly people should believe in god, but if you don’t feel strongly, …?

if you think there are better things to spend money on – by all means suggest one and start something up on pledgebank.

(and there is so much shoddy advertising about, i can’t see why this would bother you so much)