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  • Asian women and hard drugs


    by Sunny
    6th January, 2009 at 12:56 am    

    This BBC article says an increasing number of Asian women are into hard drugs like heroin. Are they? I’m not sure if there are numbers.. though the anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that more girlfriends, whose boyfriends are druggies, are getting into it and then admitting themselves into rehab.

    It probably is a big problem, but I’m not sure how big compared to other races. Probably less.. the only Asian girls I’ve known do hardcore drugs (more than marijuana) did cocaine for recreational use.

    Update: On the F word blog, zohra moosa has more thoughts.


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    1. dave bones — on 6th January, 2009 at 2:24 am  

      Yeah my first reaction to this would be “rubbish”. Reading the article made me ponder a bit but it still looks like “A few asian girls in a deprived area do scag” to me. Maybe I am wrong.

    2. halima — on 6th January, 2009 at 2:43 am  

      I don’t know now, but as far back as 10 years ago there were girls in the East End using hard drugs and it wasn’t for recreational use, and much of it was linked to sex work, too, and other ways of making money. I wrote an article on this in Time Out back then, but haven’t tracked the scale since.

      Having read the BBC article and the organisation they are talking to in the East End, I’d say it’s a pretty accurate reflection, not also forgetting there is a bigger issue of drugs mis-use with young men in the area.

    3. Kismet Hardy — on 6th January, 2009 at 1:41 pm  

      It’s true. Even ten years ago most young Asian girls I met would freak at the very mention of drugs – there was no distinction between a spliff and a crack pipe in their outrage. But these days, hardcore Class As aren’t the domain of dingy squats and regularly make appearances in ‘cool’ clubs, house parties and, of course, festivals.

      I think most people have moved on from the ‘drugs = ruined lives’ equation, and I can’t speak for those that HAVE got addicted and screwed it up for themselves. Just for the legion who take something as regularly as they have a binge night on the drink, have a laugh, feel shit for a bit, then get on with their lives.

      Not sure if the girls getting into drugs because of boyfriends angle isn’t patronising. I know plenty of guys who’d rather go home to a joint but more young girls who’d rather stay out and snort some more

      As for heroin, in my experience, girls don’t really like it or get it. It makes you want to sit there and do nothing for hours and hours and hours, and I for one don’t know a single girl who thinks that’s a fun way to spend a weekend…

    4. sonia — on 6th January, 2009 at 2:03 pm  

      is Sunny suggesting marijuana is a hard-core drug??! :-)

      what Kismet said.

      and i don’t know about asian girls here, the reality of heroin use is generally very much tied with abuse, very difficult lives, and very often, a forced dependence. so think ‘pimps’ rather than ‘boyfriends’ - and what Halima says makes sense. again i dont know the situation here because i don’t know about asian girls & prostitution here, but look at the indian subcontinent.

    5. Leon — on 6th January, 2009 at 2:14 pm  

      It’s probably only a story because there’s this weird taboo that Asian girls don’t go around snorting coke (or fucking guys or drinking, we all know what the Gora are like eh? Not our girls etc) etc.

      It’s funny, I can see real parallels between the reputation and reality of Asian girls and Catholic girls…

    6. sonia — on 6th January, 2009 at 2:22 pm  

      yes absolutely Leon. well said.

      i was going to ask why this scrutiny on ‘asian women and drugs’ as if asian women couldn’t possibly be taking drugs for whatever reasons other people are!

    7. Kismet Hardy — on 6th January, 2009 at 3:07 pm  

      True say Leon. Since we’re focussing on girls, I’ve noticed girls who are raised with a mix of hardcore religion and cultural expectations are more likely to say ‘sod it’ and see shagging and sparking up as a declaration of freedom, which makes them much more fun drug users than men who do it to, like, expand the mind and face up to the abyss and all that nietzsche

      Anyhoo, it’s worth noting if you have children - imposing your strict views of religion and culture can lead to hard drugs

    8. Sofia — on 6th January, 2009 at 3:11 pm  

      i don’t think it’s got anything to do with how you’re brought up…ppl do drugs…fact…end of…doesn’t matter what religion you are, what colour you are, what gender you are…and it’s only our own rose tinted view of the world that comes up with the whole tauba tauba did you see so and so’s little sister doing whatever…and then let’s brush it under the clear plastic covered carpet.

    9. Kismet Hardy — on 6th January, 2009 at 3:24 pm  

      As Bill Hicks (pbuh) put it:

      “I’ll tell you something honestly about drugs, honestly, and I know it’s not a very popular idea, you don’t hear it very often anymore, but it is the truth: I had a great time doing drugs. Sorry. Never murdered anyone, never robbed anyone, never raped anyone, never beat anyone, never lost a job, a car, a house, a wife or kids, laughed my ass off, and went about my day.”

    10. Jai — on 6th January, 2009 at 3:27 pm  

      It’s probably only a story because there’s this weird taboo that Asian girls don’t go around snorting coke (or fucking guys or drinking,

      Very true. God knows how the hell these false stereotypes started.

      And let’s not forget that Asians don’t date each other either, 99% have arranged marriages, Asian guys are only interested in white girls for sex whilst hypocritically keeping “their own women” suitably subjugated and repressed, all Asians these days are Muslims and divided into unthreatening nerds or aggressive religious fanatics, Asians don’t go on dodgy holidays to Ibiza, Asian girls don’t wear bikinis on beaches, and Asians in general don’t watch Hollywood blockbusters or Desperate Housewives, CSI, Big Brother or Coronation Street.

      Those Asians, eh. What are they like.

      ;)

    11. Sofia — on 6th January, 2009 at 3:35 pm  

      Asians don’t go on dodgy holidays to Ibiza - no we go to Mecca (cuz we’re all muslim right)

      Asian girls don’t wear bikinis on beaches - nope, it’s burkinis, for reasons above

      and Asians in general don’t watch Hollywood blockbusters - nope…it’s bollywood cuz even though we’re all muslim, we still love amitabh and shah rukh

      Desperate Housewives - more like Saas bhi kabhi bahu whatever whatever

      CSI - Isn’t there an Indian version?

      Big Brother - Indian Big Brother

      Coronation Street - that we definitely watch cuz it might as well be Asian

    12. Leon — on 6th January, 2009 at 3:44 pm  

      i don’t think it’s got anything to do with how you’re brought up…

      I think upbringing is a real factor in this. The stricter (or more to the point the more your restricted compared to other kids in what you can do) your upbringing the more freedom you will desire (I know this from going to Catholic school and seeing all the guys go mental the minute they could get away from their parents).

      It’s not a hard and fast rule but as I say I’m convinced your upbringing plays a real role.

      As Bill Hicks (pbuh) put it:

      “I’ll tell you something honestly about drugs, honestly, and I know it’s not a very popular idea, you don’t hear it very often anymore, but it is the truth: I had a great time doing drugs. Sorry. Never murdered anyone, never robbed anyone, never raped anyone, never beat anyone, never lost a job, a car, a house, a wife or kids, laughed my ass off, and went about my day.”

      Heh heh excellent quote! :D

    13. Jai — on 6th January, 2009 at 3:50 pm  

      Asians also don’t watch MTV (especially “Cribs” or “The Fabulous Life of….”), eat/cook non-Asian food, go on holidays (apart from the subcontinent), and the girls don’t wear skinny jeans, thongs or G-strings either.

      In fact, British Asians don’t do anything that the rest of the population of the Western Hemisphere does.

      So there.

    14. Sofia — on 6th January, 2009 at 3:52 pm  

      hehe

    15. dave bones — on 6th January, 2009 at 4:37 pm  

      Bill Hicks (pbuh)

      very good

    16. Vikrant — on 6th January, 2009 at 4:49 pm  

      haha Jai you are bang on. Funnily those stereotypes persist even across the pond! At my uni for instance there is a big difference between the reality and stereotypes associated with indian and east asian girls!

      As Bill Hicks (pbuh) put it:

      “I’ll tell you something honestly about drugs, honestly, and I know it’s not a very popular idea, you don’t hear it very often anymore, but it is the truth: I had a great time doing drugs. Sorry. Never murdered anyone, never robbed anyone, never raped anyone, never beat anyone, never lost a job, a car, a house, a wife or kids, laughed my ass off, and went about my day.”

      Haha Amen to that ;D!

    17. Jai — on 6th January, 2009 at 6:45 pm  

      Vikrant,

      Well some people have all kinds of weird ideas in their heads about Asians, based either on limited/highly subjective experiences or on complete guesswork & assumptions. And then they either get confused when you clearly undermine those notions or insulted & indignant if you decide to actually contradict them outright.

      Goodness Gracious Me did a great job in shining a light on those attitudes and stereotypes. We really need a 2009 version of GGM, I tell ya. Or a British Asian version of the mighty Chris Rock.

    18. Vikrant — on 7th January, 2009 at 2:48 pm  

      Goodness Gracious Me did a great job in shining a light on those attitudes and stereotypes. We really need a 2009 version of GGM, I tell ya. Or a British Asian version of the mighty Chris Rock.

      I know! I have to deal with the emasculated and nerdy Indian engineering student stereotype here on a daily basis :( .

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