‘There are Muslims who are Sikhs’


by Sunny
27th November, 2008 at 4:44 pm    

I can’t resist this. David Miliband is giving a press conference now regarding the Mumbai attacks and said: “There are Indians who are Muslims, there are Indians who are Hindus… and there are Muslims who are Sikhs.” That’s news to me! A slip-up, but a funny one nevertheless


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  1. Amrit — on 27th November, 2008 at 5:27 pm  

    Hah! I can imagine my family just LOVING this, what with their virulent Islamophobia.

    Let’s just hope people don’t start blowing this slip-up out of proportion…

  2. Mangles — on 27th November, 2008 at 5:51 pm  

    Islamaphobia? Islamaphobia v kafirism is like the old puzzle about horse and cart – which came first?

    Let alone blowing out of proportion – I’m aware of many Muslims who regard Guru Nanak Dev Ji with great regard – so perhaps there are Muslim Sikhs??? After all some mischievous elements suggest Guru Nanak Dev Ji was a Muslim peer; perhaps they are really closet Sikhs who just can’t ‘come out’ yet as Sikhs because of any fatwas that may be put on their heads? Allah jaaneh.

    Re-Miliband, could he be a re-incarnation of David Icke? lol

  3. Amrinder — on 27th November, 2008 at 6:03 pm  

    thats just wrong….we have a hard enough time telling people were different…especially those of us who wear turbans…

    he should apologise for that slip up!

  4. Mangles — on 27th November, 2008 at 6:08 pm  

    Amrinder relax, his just prophesising the inevitable.

  5. Leon — on 27th November, 2008 at 6:26 pm  

    Oh dear, Davey Milipede should really do his research, or fire his advisors!

  6. Hermes — on 27th November, 2008 at 6:28 pm  

    That must rate as a Miliband slip up on par with his banana moment at the Labour conference. What a twerp.

  7. Muhamad — on 27th November, 2008 at 7:04 pm  

    Ha ha ha [received pronunciation laughter]. If only my dad and his one, and only, Sikh friend, uncle Madan, were alive today, they’d surely die of laughter. Uncle Madan (whose three children used to call him and my dad ‘M&M’) did actually say my dad was a Sikh, and for that ‘insult’ my dad made uncle Madan visit the only gurdwara in Dhaka.

  8. Robert — on 28th November, 2008 at 1:51 pm  

    This one could run and run:
    “There are Jews who are Christians”
    “There are apples that are bananas”
    “There are knowns that are unknown” &ct &ct.

  9. Fe'reeha — on 29th November, 2008 at 5:40 am  

    He may actually be right. I always felt I had some Sikh roots considering I always got along very well with Sikhs in England.

    On a serious note, he may be referring to the mired up image when Sikhs were assaulted in New York as a misplaced identity after 9/11 attacks. Whatever it maybe, it is funny!

  10. surinder Sing — on 29th November, 2008 at 7:21 am  

    Sunny, you do sound like a muslim even though you claim to be a sikh. Your defense of terrorists over last many years is very obvious.

  11. Matt Wardman — on 30th November, 2008 at 7:36 am  

    In the US, they have Christian priests who think that can be Muslims as well:

    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20070617&slug=redding17m

    Quite interesting thinking, really. Not tenable imho, but interesting.

  12. MediaSheep — on 30th November, 2008 at 6:01 pm  

    Mangles

    “Islamaphobia? Islamaphobia v kafirism is like the old puzzle about horse and cart – which came first?”

    Clearly in your case Muslim hatred as your comments after show

    It reminds me of Jews saying anti-semitism is the oldest hatred and their opponents countering by saying anti-gentilism is

  13. MediaSheep — on 30th November, 2008 at 6:03 pm  

    “Sunny, you do sound like a muslim even though you claim to be a sikh. Your defense of terrorists over last many years is very obvious.”

    Yeah cos as we know all Muslims are terrorists and no Sikhs are. Sikhs are freedom fighters.

    I think your turban is wrapped on to tight

  14. MediaSheep — on 30th November, 2008 at 6:07 pm  

    Mangles

    “After all some mischievous elements suggest Guru Nanak Dev Ji was a Muslim peer; perhaps they are really closet Sikhs who just can’t ‘come out’ yet as Sikhs because of any fatwas that may be put on their heads? Allah jaaneh.”

    Funny mangles cos I know a number of ex-Sikhs who converted to Islam who live in fear of their family. Funnily enough the media isnt interested in covering them though they would be the reverse- why is that?

  15. Channo — on 30th November, 2008 at 6:50 pm  

    Yeah cos as we know all Muslims are terrorists and no Sikhs are. Sikhs are freedom fighters.

    Individual Sikhs who target innocent people are most certainly terrorists, no matter what any partisans say. Given that there has not been a dispute for the last 15 to 20 years anyway, the matter is academic, as academic as the IRA and their historical issues.

    You need to concern yourself over this small worry that’s concerning quite a few folks at the moment.

    British Muslims have become a mainstay of the global ‘jihad’

    More than 4,000 British Muslims have passed through terrorist training camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to security agencies, providing a fertile recruitment pool for the Islamist international jihad

    link

    Naughty freedom fighters. Oh no, wait, it’s all a media conspiracy and persecution by everyone else, right?

  16. Channo — on 30th November, 2008 at 6:52 pm  

    I think your turban is wrapped on to tight

    I think you’ve been banging your head on the floor as you pray too much, take it easy mate.

  17. Channo — on 30th November, 2008 at 6:54 pm  

    Funny mangles cos I know a number of ex-Sikhs who converted to Islam who live in fear of their family.

    Lets hope they don’t realise the mistake they’ve made and dispense with their new religion or they’ll have a death sentence proscribed on their head by divine Islamic providence. Better for them to stay in darkness there.

  18. Channo — on 30th November, 2008 at 7:06 pm  

    “Islamaphobia? Islamaphobia v kafirism is like the old puzzle about horse and cart – which came first?”

    Good phrase that, anti-Kaffirism. I think another good term is ‘Kaffirphobia’.

  19. Mangles — on 1st December, 2008 at 5:48 pm  

    MediaSheep: do you not agree that the whole concept of Kafirismn in Islam is based on a Nazi-like hatred of non-Muslims, with Sharia backed fiscal and social contra-dispensations aimed at making non-Muslims feel inferior, so that they are ‘gently persuaded’ to accept Islam?

    In my mind the answer to the question of the puzzle of Islamaphobia v kafirism is clear. The route cause is kafirism and that is what has led to the negative perceptions of Islam i.e. the rhetoric and acts of Muslims are the cause of Islamaphobia. But Muslims are afraid to accept any responsibility for the state of affairs, but continue to blame the environment around them.

    Look at the treatment of non-Muslims by the Taliban and compare that to the treatment of Jews in Nazi Germany; destruction of literature, cultural/religious art and heritage, imposition of dress-codes and even signs on houses; the similarities are glaringly acute.

    The reality IS that the ideology of kafirism is equivalent to Nazi-ism. In my mind there is no doubt about it whatsoever, but could be persuade otherwise. It took hundred’s of years of slavery of non-whites based on Western interpretation of the bible, and further subjugation of other races and nations before the Christian based west could bear witness to an extreme form of treatment of non-believers, in the form of Nazism to realise the errors of their ways. Consequently Western Europe is far more prone to a preferred model of liberal secular democracy to prevent a slide towards a reoccurrence of too great an influence by the Church (of other faith).

    I pray it doesn’t take the supposedly civilised and peaceful protagonists of Islam as long or the emergence of a Taliban-like umah over the Islamic world before they awaken to the sad reality of nazi-like tendencies within some, and a growing number of interpretations of Islam. The fact that so many Muslims still find it difficult to condemn atrocities such as 9/11, 7/7, Bali, Madrid, Mumbai etc is disturbing; all too often more efforts are made to excuse these occurrences with the suggestion that the active participants of these acts of terror have somehow been dealt unfairly by society or the west or the east. The sad reality is that the practitioners, planners and funders are from being socially excluded deviants, but instead are probably well educated professionals who just don’t give a XXXX about non-Muslim kafirs.

    Rab rakha!

  20. SikhsAreKuffar — on 2nd January, 2009 at 4:50 pm  

    Sikhism is just a ripoff of other religions like Islam and Hinduism.

    Sikhs are a joke world wide.

    I’m sorry to tell you stinky people who give pakis and indians a bad name this.

  21. jatinder — on 14th January, 2009 at 11:04 pm  

    yes there are muslims that are sikhs. sikh is a term for disciple of guru nanak.

    sikh can be from any background, for example i am a jatt sikh. Nanakshahis are is a term for some muslim sikhs.

    However people who follow SGPC definition could not possibly agree with the term muslim sikh!

    and the person before me who posted the hate comment, is there no one moderating thee comments?

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