The killing of Rashid Rauf


by Sunny
26th November, 2008 at 2:06 am    

Not much has been said about the death of Rashid Rauf, an alleged terrorist, that intelligence services recently said was killed by a US strike. But I thought this article by Conservative MP Patrick Mercer (via Dave Bones) was spot on:

The world of intelligence is murky – necessarily so. There is a series of carefully enforced procedures governing the passing of British intelligence to other agencies when it might lead to the death or torture of suspects. But as Richard Beeston wrote in The Times yesterday of US operations inside Pakistan: “As long as terrorist suspects… are being killed or live in fear of being killed [London] is quite happy to see the policy continue.” It is certainly possible that British intelligence services were in some way complicit in Rauf’s death. Our forces do informally share information with intelligence services, such as those of Pakistan and the US.

I will not recite at length the arguments about the need to operate within the law other than to cite the chaos that ensued when the world was made to believe that British Forces were pursing a “shoot to kill” policy in Northern Ireland. Clearly, martyrdom is an important tool for the terrorist and once security forces step outside the law, the advantage passes from us to them.

Not only illegal and against the values that we claim to be fighting for, but also counter-productive. Well said and the government should take note. However, I doubt that if the Tories got into power things would be very different; it’s easy to take the moral high-ground when out of power.


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  1. dave bones — on 26th November, 2008 at 2:50 am  

    I thought that was a bit surprising though I have only read a little of what he wrote regarding Hamza etc before. I almost got introduced to Patrick Mercer at that Quilliam thing. This article has me wondering what he would make of what I have been up to. Do you know him?

  2. dave bones — on 26th November, 2008 at 3:10 am  

    This would be even more of a surprise if it happened.

  3. Sunny — on 26th November, 2008 at 4:01 pm  

    dave – no I don’t. I cussed him quite hard last year when he was throwing around phrases like ‘black bastard’ and claiming black people within the army were playing the race card.

  4. dave bones — on 27th November, 2008 at 1:18 am  

    hmmm. I wasn’t sure but I knew there was a reason I sort of ducked the intro, especially as I was with Musa. Sill I like to think I would talk to anyone and if talk to people who beleieve gays should be killed without cross words I should be able to talk to Tories. I wrote a note to his secetary and got a two line answer. I will observe..

  5. bananabrain — on 27th November, 2008 at 9:58 am  

    “As long as terrorist suspects… are being killed or live in fear of being killed [London] is quite happy to see the policy continue.” It is certainly possible that British intelligence services were in some way complicit in Rauf’s death.

    obviously, it is so much better for us all if terrorists are not living in fear of being killed. perhaps we might offer them interest-free credit on their sofas as well?

    i refer you to the comment someone very sensible (i think it was soru) said on the other thread – if you can’t lock up these guys when you catch them, they’re going to end up being killed. it’s a perverse incentive and whatever brings world peace, i doubt it’ll be a massive increase in human-rights lawyers.

    b’shalom

    bananabrain

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