Who suggested this hayseed represents christians?

Again, so what/

No the real issue re: the credit crunch is that Micheal jackson has become Muslim. During the election campaign the Republican Jewish committee (sorry to mention they are Repblican and Jewish) ran a demonising campaign against Obama implying he is a secret Muslim. Wonder why their is double standards re the outrage

“#29 So what? Seriously, explain the point you were making. An obscure minister in Kansas who has already been threatened with withdrawal of tax-exempt status for previous idiocy still thinks Obama is a scary mooslim? How is this relevant?”

He has as much relevant to Christians as Al Zahawaris rantings do to Muslims. So why shouldnt he be held up as representing Christians?

#29 So what? Seriously, explain the point you were making. An obscure minister in Kansas who has already been threatened with withdrawal of tax-exempt status for previous idiocy still thinks Obama is a scary mooslim? How is this relevant?

Obama is still a Muslim

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212188130.shtml

Apparently, the release of the tape and Al-Zawahri’s racist, neurotic ranting indicate that AQ is threatened by Obama’s victory and what it implies for them:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/20/tape-shows-al-qaeda-threa_n_145219.html

Experts agree that the release of a new tape by Al Qaeda’s second in command Ayman al-Zawahri indicates that Al Qaeda feels threatened and is on its heels after Obama’s resounding victory. President-elect Obama’s diverse background, along with his pledge to reverse many of the policies and approaches of the Bush administration on issues such as detentions at Guantanamo, torture and the war in Iraq has served to dramatically improve America’s image, especially in the Muslim world.

Counter-terrorism expert Richard Clarke explained, “Most of all, by returning to American values the world admires, Obama sets al Qaeda back enormously in the battle of ideas, the ideological struggle which determines whether al Qaeda will continue to have significant support in the Islamic world.” Having thrived on the decline in America’s world image, the impact of Obama’s victory provides a direct challenge to Al Qaeda’s negative depiction of the United States. Additionally, Obama’s emphasis on shifting US attention from Iraq to Afghanistan represents a direct physical threat to Al Qaeda’s leadership. America’s improved global image and the new administration’s focus on Afghanistan threatens Al Qaeda and has led to what experts see as a confused, racist, and off-kilter response reflective of an organization on the defensive.

He had this deep-fried chip on his shoulder about being Asian (although I always suspected the real cause was because he was terribly ugly) and, every fucking time we’d be in the local, he’d start on the barman for not serving him because he was Asian, saying the BLACK in snakebite and black markedly, generally making the rest of us pointlessly alienated from the rest of the pub simply by banging on about how we were Asian and everyone hated us for it. Truth be told, they probably did because this twat was always with us.

So anyhoo, one day we walk into the same pub, and lo and behold, there’s an Asian girl serving behind the bar. We all turn to our twat friend, hoping he’ll now get over himself, but much to our collective woe, he says to her: ‘Have you got no shame being a slave to these white people?’

Like I say, I forget his name. But I think I’ll call him Ayman al-Zawahri…

Case in point: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7740417.stm

The kaffirs are supporting corrupt dictatorships which supress and kill those who want to live under the Shariah. They put huge amounts of money into militarily supressing a united Islam. Western taxpayers are pretty much divorced from all this to an extent that even Muslims in their societies don’t really bother themselves that much for their fellow bothers who are oppressed and killed, therefore we have to take that killing and maiming to them.

I don’t agree with, and am horrified by the sense this makes. I am just as horrified that the actions of my government in the 21st century would bring this guys religion so alive to him.

Behind the hocus pocus of religion he is using the same cold logic that Churchill and Bomber Harris used toward the end of the second world war and I am worried that Obama isn’t going to see that. I am hopeful, he seems to be good at choosing words. He is going to have to be if real progress is to be made.

I can’t see any way out of this which would bring peace as I could in no way support Al Zawahiri’s version of an Islamic state, but I can see it is being deliberately supressed with tax dollars I am afraid.

http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275103.html

General James L. Jones is widely rumored to be Obama’s preferred candidate to be White House National Security Adviser… Jones prepared a report on Israel’s policies in the territories… The World Tribune said it “blasted Israel’s role” for “hampering the movement of PA forces, blocking plans for weapons shipments and technology to the Palestinians and resisting coordination.” … Obama said this about Jones: “Let me tell you who I associate with… If I’m interested in figuring out my foreign policy, I associate myself with my running mate, Joe Biden or with Dick Lugar…or General Jim Jones, the former supreme allied commander of NATO.”

As long as the ‘Islamo-fascist’ screaming and the ‘House Negro’ screaming factions aren’t happy – I’m happy.

Again, this is pure rubbish, and put out by people who have little understanding of foreign policy. But when you’re excusing stuff like ‘house negro’, then that doesn’t surprise me.

Given the above, is the term ‘house negro’ or white-server unfair for the three mentioned above?

Not very saintly or statesmanlike behaviour for someone belonging to a group of alleged “holy warriors” claiming full divine support and justification for their cause and all their associated actions, though, is it ?

Just so that we get the “context” right.

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It’s also interesting and disturbing to see that there are apparently people here who believe that, in certain circumstances, it is acceptable (or at least “understandable”) for aggrieved parties from other (non-black) ethnic backgrounds to use racially abusive terms such as “house negro” in reference to black people. Speaks volumes, and not in a good way.

But hey, given the rush to defend — or at least justify and contextualise — Al-Zawahri’s remarks and behaviour, at least we know where your primary sympathies lie, regardless of the situation.

Just because they’re black doesnt mean they have to agree on either of those things with Obama.

Oh I don’t know. If AQ want to make such ridiculous and counter-productive propaganda, the more publicity it gets the better.

@7: the vicious crackpots they actually are – we’re not talking collectivisation here, we’re talking stoning to death raped 12 year olds.

Indeed there is a strand within Islamist thought that would have been considered vicious and backward during the dark ages.

- Obama has threatened to escalate the war in Afghanistan and even extend it to Pakistan, without a thought for the fate of the local civilians.
- Finally, Obama has appointed a former Israeli citizen as C of S and dared not rebuke Israel on the massive on-going abuses against Palestinians.

Given the above, is the term ‘house negro’ or white-server unfair for the three mentioned above?

part of the problem is that folks like him are by far the best elocutors of these matters (for sunnis at least. Larjiani’s comments on Obama were better.). This says more about the USAID-milking supine muslim leadership than anything else.

Shame about the guilt by association with rather potent cultural category.

13. agreed.