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  • Thanks Al-Qaeda!


    by Sunny
    20th November, 2008 at 12:50 pm    

    AP reports:

    Al-Qaida’s No. 2 leader used a racial epithet to insult Barack Obama in a message posted Wednesday, using a demeaning racial term implying that the president-elect is a black American who does the bidding of whites.

    The message appeared chiefly aimed at persuading Muslims and Arabs that Obama does not represent a change in U.S. policies. Ayman al-Zawahri said in the message, which appeared on militant Web sites, that Obama is “the direct opposite of honorable black Americans” like Malcolm X, the 1960s African-American rights leader. In al-Qaida’s first response to Obama’s victory, al-Zawahri also called the president-elect — along with secretaries of state Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice — “house negroes.”

    Well, Ralph Nader and John Pilger look pretty stupid now don’t they?

    Update: Al-Zawahri is not one to talk about racism:

    By playing the race card so quickly and so brazenly, al-Zawahiri may end up causing backlash against Al-Qaida in the very constituencies he is seeking to woo. It also invites the question, how is this a legitimate criticism coming from the senior leadership of Al-Qaida, which is dominated almost solely by Arab Egyptians and Saudis? Moreover, what would Malcolm X have thought of an organization, Al-Qaida, that at one time offered a higher salary to its Arab membership than its Black African adherents?


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    1. Hermes — on 20th November, 2008 at 1:03 pm  

      There are bigots and there are extremist bigots. Al_qaeda, and those who support fundamentalism, are no different from the BNP really. Makes me feel sick to think these are the people wanting to bring their ‘enlightened’ ways to all non-believers.

    2. platinum786 — on 20th November, 2008 at 1:33 pm  

      Why Al Queda is even given press is beyond me.

      surely part of the PR war against such people would be to stifle their voices rather than give them prime time TV time.

    3. Cabalamat — on 20th November, 2008 at 1:38 pm  

      Well, Ralph Nader and John Pilger look pretty stupid now don’t they?

      You mean they didn’t before? :-)

    4. Jai — on 20th November, 2008 at 1:50 pm  

      Al-Zawahri’s rant is pretty ugly, based on the extracts that were played on CNN yesterday, especially the highly-personalised racial remarks about Obama being a “house negro”. What a nasty, vicious little prick Al-Zawahri is.

      It looks and sounds absolutely ridiculous coming from someone his age (and originally a doctor, too) — it’s more like immature schoolboy playground taunting. Or something a villain from some 70s Bollywood film would say in an attempt to needle Amitabh Bachchan. Either way, it’s not just disgusting, but also pathetic.

      I expect Obama himself will respond to all this in his usual disciplined, focused and highly-effective way, either now or once he’s in the Oval Office.

    5. Random Guy — on 20th November, 2008 at 2:05 pm  

      From Al-Jazeera:

      Al-Zawahiri’s message appeared chiefly aimed at convincing Muslims and Arabs that Obama does not represent a change in US policies.
      Al-Zawahri said that Obama is “the direct opposite of honourable black Americans” such as Malcolm X, the 1960′s African-American activist.
      “America, the criminal, trespassing crusader, continues to be the same as ever, so we must continue to harm it, in order for it to come to its senses,” al-Zawahri said.
      In his speech, al-Zawahri refers to a November 5 US air raid in Afghanistan, meaning the video was made after that date.
      Al-Zawahri said Obama’s election has not changed American policies, which he said are aimed at oppressing Muslims and others.”

      There’s your context. Did CNN play those extracts as well? Or did AP have that in the link above?

      Not to say that his racial slur - or his intention to ‘harm’ America - is in any way acceptable, but take the blinkers off FFS. The message is clear from both sides: the war in Afghanistan is not going to end any time soon.

    6. Alan — on 20th November, 2008 at 2:10 pm  

      Please don´t tell me you actually believe this crap,Al-Zawahri has been dead once, wounded afterwards and killed once more. Now he´s alive and kickin´again

      http://www.legitgov.org/dead_al-qaeda_injured_020808.html

    7. Boyo — on 20th November, 2008 at 2:25 pm  

      “but take the blinkers off FFS”

      Hmmm… but AQ are often regarded with equality by the likes of AJ and others on the left, almost as a “valid” alternative voice rather than the vicious crackpots they actually are - we’re not talking collectivisation here, we’re talking stoning to death raped 12 year olds.

      Familiarity appears to have almost bred the opposite of contempt, particularly in some parts of the world.

      Obama is a 9/11 for the grievance industry everywhere, and they’re showing it.

    8. Leon — on 20th November, 2008 at 2:33 pm  

      Seriously this is such a tedious tactic by AQ. Does anyone really think they think Malcom X is an ‘honourable black American’ and who the hell are they to decide which black people are honourable not!??!

      AQ are just playing games here; plainly they’re hoping it’ll will divide the left and force a response to their liking from Obama.

      Sunny, I saw this before and decided not to publish because frankly I didn’t want to give those SOB’s any further publicity on this.

    9. Sid — on 20th November, 2008 at 2:53 pm  

      If we’re going to log every single SOB “world leader” who makes an adverserial comment about the US Pres-Elect based on his colour, we’re going to have a very long list indeed by 2012.

      And in the spirit of completeness, here’s another SOB who was missed in the rounds of “Another world leader with a problem with Obama’s race”.

    10. bananabrain — on 20th November, 2008 at 3:00 pm  

      oh, that’s rich. i’m sure al-qaeda *thoroughly* approve of the orthodoxy of the nation of islam. although, of course, malcolm x did end up becoming a proper muslim. ironically enough he was murdered by the takfiris of the loony sectarians he’d just abandoned….

      b’shalom

      bananabrain

    11. Leon — on 20th November, 2008 at 3:16 pm  

      Bananabrain, indeed.

    12. Jai — on 20th November, 2008 at 4:10 pm  

      There’s your context. Did CNN play those extracts as well?

      Oh, there’s more. Let’s not forget the parts about Obama “betraying his Muslim heritage” due to being a Christian, or “praying like Jews”.

      Jesus, it’s a textbook example of the loudmouthed, neurotic, attention-seeking “Ranting Uncle” syndrome. Maybe all this is diverted frustration and the old man just needs a dose of Viagra.

      Or perhaps he should just stick to being a doctor instead of continuing to be an embarrassment to the global medical profession. Unless he’s a failure at that too, just like he’s a failure in his current “job”.

      Childish and pathetic, like I said.

    13. dave bones — on 20th November, 2008 at 5:13 pm  

      I’m still not killing any chickens but I am hoping Al-Zawahiri is wrong.

    14. fugstar — on 20th November, 2008 at 5:27 pm  

      hang on. I do wish they would just dissapear, but just because zawahiri utters something doesnt make is totally wrong.

      part of the problem is that folks like him are by far the best elocutors of these matters (for sunnis at least. Larjiani’s comments on Obama were better.). This says more about the USAID-milking supine muslim leadership than anything else.

      Shame about the guilt by association with rather potent cultural category.

      13. agreed.

    15. George — on 20th November, 2008 at 7:22 pm  

      I think Sunny and others may have missed the reasons for AQ’s response.
      - Condy Rice and Colin Powell have held top positions, yes, but they had to meekly carry out the white man’s agenda. For example, they dared not propose affrimative action for blacks. Condy has done nothing for the Palestinians, as Pilger wrote, but only grovelled before Israel, as required.

      - Obama has threatened to escalate the war in Afghanistan and even extend it to Pakistan, without a thought for the fate of the local civilians.
      - Finally, Obama has appointed a former Israeli citizen as C of S and dared not rebuke Israel on the massive on-going abuses against Palestinians.

      Given the above, is the term ‘house negro’ or white-server unfair for the three mentioned above?

    16. Andrew Adams — on 20th November, 2008 at 7:47 pm  

      Did either Powell or Rice have a record of speaking out in favour of affirmative action or in support of the Palestinians before they became Secretary of State?

    17. Cabalamat — on 20th November, 2008 at 8:37 pm  

      @2: Why Al Queda is even given press is beyond me. surely part of the PR war against such people would be to stifle their voices rather than give them prime time TV time.

      Oh I don’t know. If AQ want to make such ridiculous and counter-productive propaganda, the more publicity it gets the better.

      @7: the vicious crackpots they actually are - we’re not talking collectivisation here, we’re talking stoning to death raped 12 year olds.

      Indeed there is a strand within Islamist thought that would have been considered vicious and backward during the dark ages.

    18. Sunny — on 20th November, 2008 at 10:06 pm  

      Did either Powell or Rice have a record of speaking out in favour of affirmative action or in support of the Palestinians before they became Secretary of State?

      Just because they’re black doesnt mean they have to agree on either of those things with Obama.

    19. Random Guy — on 20th November, 2008 at 10:28 pm  

      #15, George: Good post. THERE’S the context.

    20. fugstar — on 20th November, 2008 at 10:44 pm  

      but powells pronounciation on ‘so what if he was muslim?’ was totally amazing.

    21. Jai — on 20th November, 2008 at 11:01 pm  

      Given the above, is the term ‘house negro’ or white-server unfair for the three mentioned above?

      Not very saintly or statesmanlike behaviour for someone belonging to a group of alleged “holy warriors” claiming full divine support and justification for their cause and all their associated actions, though, is it ?

      Just so that we get the “context” right.

      *******************

      It’s also interesting and disturbing to see that there are apparently people here who believe that, in certain circumstances, it is acceptable (or at least “understandable”) for aggrieved parties from other (non-black) ethnic backgrounds to use racially abusive terms such as “house negro” in reference to black people. Speaks volumes, and not in a good way.

      But hey, given the rush to defend — or at least justify and contextualise — Al-Zawahri’s remarks and behaviour, at least we know where your primary sympathies lie, regardless of the situation.

    22. Sunny — on 21st November, 2008 at 12:35 am  

      Obama has threatened to escalate the war in Afghanistan and even extend it to Pakistan, without a thought for the fate of the local civilians

      Again, this is pure rubbish, and put out by people who have little understanding of foreign policy. But when you’re excusing stuff like ‘house negro’, then that doesn’t surprise me.

    23. Sunny — on 21st November, 2008 at 12:48 am  

      Meanwhile, right-wing nutjobs aren’t happy either:

      http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11275103.html

      General James L. Jones is widely rumored to be Obama’s preferred candidate to be White House National Security Adviser… Jones prepared a report on Israel’s policies in the territories… The World Tribune said it “blasted Israel’s role” for “hampering the movement of PA forces, blocking plans for weapons shipments and technology to the Palestinians and resisting coordination.” … Obama said this about Jones: “Let me tell you who I associate with… If I’m interested in figuring out my foreign policy, I associate myself with my running mate, Joe Biden or with Dick Lugar…or General Jim Jones, the former supreme allied commander of NATO.”

      As long as the ‘Islamo-fascist’ screaming and the ‘House Negro’ screaming factions aren’t happy - I’m happy.

    24. dave bones — on 21st November, 2008 at 5:31 am  

      I’m happy you are happy, and glad people can ridicule Al Zawahiri. I am sorry I don’t have the same comfort. What keeps me awake at nights (quite literally in this case) is that I don’t think Al Zawahiri is mad at all. I said over on Rachels blog a long while back that it doesn’t really interest me what he is wrong about, its what he is right about in the 21st century that worries me.

      The kaffirs are supporting corrupt dictatorships which supress and kill those who want to live under the Shariah. They put huge amounts of money into militarily supressing a united Islam. Western taxpayers are pretty much divorced from all this to an extent that even Muslims in their societies don’t really bother themselves that much for their fellow bothers who are oppressed and killed, therefore we have to take that killing and maiming to them.

      I don’t agree with, and am horrified by the sense this makes. I am just as horrified that the actions of my government in the 21st century would bring this guys religion so alive to him.

      Behind the hocus pocus of religion he is using the same cold logic that Churchill and Bomber Harris used toward the end of the second world war and I am worried that Obama isn’t going to see that. I am hopeful, he seems to be good at choosing words. He is going to have to be if real progress is to be made.

      I can’t see any way out of this which would bring peace as I could in no way support Al Zawahiri’s version of an Islamic state, but I can see it is being deliberately supressed with tax dollars I am afraid.

    25. Random Guy — on 21st November, 2008 at 9:13 am  

      See, I have a beef with ‘context’ for very good reasons. My only request is focus on the matter at hand (the illegal war instigated by Bush and Blair etc., and the prospect of it not ending) rather than these peripheral “name-calling” issues. I am still a bit confused as to why it was being given so much media coverage to be honest.

      Case in point: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7740417.stm

    26. Kismet Hardy — on 21st November, 2008 at 10:01 am  

      I used to know this kid when I was younger. I forget his name.

      He had this deep-fried chip on his shoulder about being Asian (although I always suspected the real cause was because he was terribly ugly) and, every fucking time we’d be in the local, he’d start on the barman for not serving him because he was Asian, saying the BLACK in snakebite and black markedly, generally making the rest of us pointlessly alienated from the rest of the pub simply by banging on about how we were Asian and everyone hated us for it. Truth be told, they probably did because this twat was always with us.

      So anyhoo, one day we walk into the same pub, and lo and behold, there’s an Asian girl serving behind the bar. We all turn to our twat friend, hoping he’ll now get over himself, but much to our collective woe, he says to her: ‘Have you got no shame being a slave to these white people?’

      Like I say, I forget his name. But I think I’ll call him Ayman al-Zawahri…

    27. Jai — on 21st November, 2008 at 10:17 am  

      Very good, Kismet ;) Good points by Sunny in #22 & 23 too.

      Apparently, the release of the tape and Al-Zawahri’s racist, neurotic ranting indicate that AQ is threatened by Obama’s victory and what it implies for them:

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/20/tape-shows-al-qaeda-threa_n_145219.html

      Experts agree that the release of a new tape by Al Qaeda’s second in command Ayman al-Zawahri indicates that Al Qaeda feels threatened and is on its heels after Obama’s resounding victory. President-elect Obama’s diverse background, along with his pledge to reverse many of the policies and approaches of the Bush administration on issues such as detentions at Guantanamo, torture and the war in Iraq has served to dramatically improve America’s image, especially in the Muslim world.

      Counter-terrorism expert Richard Clarke explained, “Most of all, by returning to American values the world admires, Obama sets al Qaeda back enormously in the battle of ideas, the ideological struggle which determines whether al Qaeda will continue to have significant support in the Islamic world.” Having thrived on the decline in America’s world image, the impact of Obama’s victory provides a direct challenge to Al Qaeda’s negative depiction of the United States. Additionally, Obama’s emphasis on shifting US attention from Iraq to Afghanistan represents a direct physical threat to Al Qaeda’s leadership. America’s improved global image and the new administration’s focus on Afghanistan threatens Al Qaeda and has led to what experts see as a confused, racist, and off-kilter response reflective of an organization on the defensive.

    28. MediaSheep — on 23rd November, 2008 at 3:58 pm  

      The funny thing is these kind of comments came from the Republicans including Republican Jews all through the election campaign
      But now there is outrage cos Dr Evil said it

    29. MediaSheep — on 23rd November, 2008 at 4:09 pm  

      Al Zawahiri is clearly mistaken

      Obama is still a Muslim

      http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212188130.shtml

    30. Don — on 23rd November, 2008 at 4:36 pm  

      #28 Sunny, how dare you comment on Al Zawahiri’s remarks without mentioning ‘Republican Jews’? Because that is obviously the real issue.

      #29 So what? Seriously, explain the point you were making. An obscure minister in Kansas who has already been threatened with withdrawal of tax-exempt status for previous idiocy still thinks Obama is a scary mooslim? How is this relevant?

    31. mediasheep — on 23rd November, 2008 at 6:37 pm  

      “#28 Sunny, how dare you comment on Al Zawahiri’s remarks without mentioning ‘Republican Jews’? Because that is obviously the real issue.”

      No the real issue re: the credit crunch is that Micheal jackson has become Muslim. During the election campaign the Republican Jewish committee (sorry to mention they are Repblican and Jewish) ran a demonising campaign against Obama implying he is a secret Muslim. Wonder why their is double standards re the outrage

      “#29 So what? Seriously, explain the point you were making. An obscure minister in Kansas who has already been threatened with withdrawal of tax-exempt status for previous idiocy still thinks Obama is a scary mooslim? How is this relevant?”

      He has as much relevant to Christians as Al Zahawaris rantings do to Muslims. So why shouldnt he be held up as representing Christians?

    32. Don — on 23rd November, 2008 at 7:16 pm  

      Who suggested Al Zahawari represented muslims?

      Who suggested this hayseed represents christians?

      Again, so what/

    33. Raj Saxena — on 24th November, 2008 at 5:13 am  

      Weren’t Zawahiri and AQ guests of the Sudanese government when it was still engaging in slave raids on the Black African south?

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