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		<title>By: Rohin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-2#comment-9970</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay you kind of went a bit defensive there, I&#039;m not sneering at anything. On the contrary, I have the utmost respect for pukka bhangra. I once choreographed a dance for a show which occasionally featured Indian dances, but they were always slow Bollywood schmaltz. I wanted to get some brothers from the pind to show them how Indians can dance. But it was such hard work finding people who were willing to teach me authentic dancing without charging an arm and a leg. And the best seem to be in the midlands, I wasn&#039;t too impressed with a group I met in South London. Anyway, armed with new-found bhangra moves, I think I produced a tidy performance, backflips an&#039; all.

I&#039;ve watched some of a Shaba Jeyasingh DVD and went to Kaash, which was pretty cool. Quite short, but very innovative. And back then, when &#039;Asian&#039; was only just becoming cool (I think it was the year of the Indian Summer on ch4) I was very proud of the show, just cos three desis did it. Modern dance is generally lost on me and I&#039;m no fan, but Khan&#039;s classical training meant I could understand what he was doing. Which I can&#039;t say for most modern dancers.

Don&#039;t know much about Darshan Singh Bhuller.

All I was saying is that I hate (and I mean HATE) British Asians who think the way they were raised is the same all over India. Even when they visit, they go to their ancestral village and are never exposed to people outside their family circle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay you kind of went a bit defensive there, I&#8217;m not sneering at anything. On the contrary, I have the utmost respect for pukka bhangra. I once choreographed a dance for a show which occasionally featured Indian dances, but they were always slow Bollywood schmaltz. I wanted to get some brothers from the pind to show them how Indians can dance. But it was such hard work finding people who were willing to teach me authentic dancing without charging an arm and a leg. And the best seem to be in the midlands, I wasn&#8217;t too impressed with a group I met in South London. Anyway, armed with new-found bhangra moves, I think I produced a tidy performance, backflips an&#8217; all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve watched some of a Shaba Jeyasingh DVD and went to Kaash, which was pretty cool. Quite short, but very innovative. And back then, when &#8216;Asian&#8217; was only just becoming cool (I think it was the year of the Indian Summer on ch4) I was very proud of the show, just cos three desis did it. Modern dance is generally lost on me and I&#8217;m no fan, but Khan&#8217;s classical training meant I could understand what he was doing. Which I can&#8217;t say for most modern dancers.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know much about Darshan Singh Bhuller.</p>
<p>All I was saying is that I hate (and I mean HATE) British Asians who think the way they were raised is the same all over India. Even when they visit, they go to their ancestral village and are never exposed to people outside their family circle.</p>
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		<title>By: Col. Mustafa</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-2#comment-9920</link>
		<dc:creator>Col. Mustafa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The muslim Barbie; hehehehehehehe.

They don&#039;t want young girls getting the wrong idea; that lifes all about dressing skimpy and buying accessories at every available opportunity of your life, for that is life.
Just buying stuff, and then buy more stuff and then buy some more.

In this case they missed the point of a Barbie doll; and just figured we cover it up so girls think they should cover up too.

You forgot the t.v and internet dudes; whose gonna cover them up.  hmmmm.

Just cover it up, the problem will go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The muslim Barbie; hehehehehehehe.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t want young girls getting the wrong idea; that lifes all about dressing skimpy and buying accessories at every available opportunity of your life, for that is life.<br />
Just buying stuff, and then buy more stuff and then buy some more.</p>
<p>In this case they missed the point of a Barbie doll; and just figured we cover it up so girls think they should cover up too.</p>
<p>You forgot the t.v and internet dudes; whose gonna cover them up.  hmmmm.</p>
<p>Just cover it up, the problem will go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9898</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I met Akram&#039;s dad at the Akram Khan/Larbi Cherkaoui/Antony Gormley/Nitin Sawhney show at Sadler&#039;s Wells show last summer. I was talking to him and asked him to let me know if his son ever opens up a dance school, I&#039;d have my daughter there in a flash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I met Akram&#8217;s dad at the Akram Khan/Larbi Cherkaoui/Antony Gormley/Nitin Sawhney show at Sadler&#8217;s Wells show last summer. I was talking to him and asked him to let me know if his son ever opens up a dance school, I&#8217;d have my daughter there in a flash.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9892</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Siddhartha

Did you see the South Bank Show on Akram Khan? They interviewed his Dad - a really sweet old school Bengali who said he would dance at weddings and stuff - then they showed a video of him as a six year old boy freaking out like Michael Jackson in the middle of some big Bengali family get together - and he was grooving to some Bangla pop song and he was burning the dance floor up! What a dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siddhartha</p>
<p>Did you see the South Bank Show on Akram Khan? They interviewed his Dad &#8211; a really sweet old school Bengali who said he would dance at weddings and stuff &#8211; then they showed a video of him as a six year old boy freaking out like Michael Jackson in the middle of some big Bengali family get together &#8211; and he was grooving to some Bangla pop song and he was burning the dance floor up! What a dude.</p>
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		<title>By: coruja</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9883</link>
		<dc:creator>coruja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Punjabi&#039;s know how to party, it&#039;s a simple truth!

There are many asian dancers in the UK, and wonderful things are created - like the collaboration between Akram Khan, Nitin Sawhney and Anish Kapoor - which are cultural &#039;things&#039; in their own right and are of world class. It is a shame that some &#039;asians&#039; do not look beyond their own particluar cultural backyard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Punjabi&#8217;s know how to party, it&#8217;s a simple truth!</p>
<p>There are many asian dancers in the UK, and wonderful things are created &#8211; like the collaboration between Akram Khan, Nitin Sawhney and Anish Kapoor &#8211; which are cultural &#8216;things&#8217; in their own right and are of world class. It is a shame that some &#8216;asians&#8217; do not look beyond their own particluar cultural backyard.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9882</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m ready to enrol my daughter to learn bharatanatyam under Akram Khan if he ever opens a school in the UK. I&#039;m hoping he will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m ready to enrol my daughter to learn bharatanatyam under Akram Khan if he ever opens a school in the UK. I&#8217;m hoping he will.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9881</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, agree.
But I&#039;m still pissed off with the waiting lists.

The tumbhi isn&#039;t perhaps per se as popular as the dhol.

The dhol seems to symbolise skill, masculinity &amp; culture for the punjabi lads. Unbelievably, after organising a few do&#039;s, it astounding the number of asian gals who&#039;ll stand around the young &#039;dashing&#039; dholks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, agree.<br />
But I&#8217;m still pissed off with the waiting lists.</p>
<p>The tumbhi isn&#8217;t perhaps per se as popular as the dhol.</p>
<p>The dhol seems to symbolise skill, masculinity &amp; culture for the punjabi lads. Unbelievably, after organising a few do&#8217;s, it astounding the number of asian gals who&#8217;ll stand around the young &#8216;dashing&#8217; dholks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9880</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rise of bhangra music has done more to promote one aspect of desi culture (Punjabi dance and music) than almsot anything else in Britain.

The thing that is good to see is that it is the youth and teenagers who are DEMANDING to be taught this stuff. They see Panjabi MC and hear the music and want a piece of that - they feel pride in their bhangra culture because it gives them something to feel a part of - British Bhangra culture makes them feel good and have a British identity.

When the youth think of something as cool it thrives, you dont have to persuade them of its value. And learning dhol, bhangra and the dancing is seen by young Punjabis as the COOLEST thing out there.

Another effect it has is that Punjabi folk songs, idioms and poetry and language gets adapted and preserved in British life. The kids want to know Punjabi not because they are forced to learn it at Sunday School at the gurdwara, but because they want to speak and sing in it because it&#039;s cool and part of the whole music scene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rise of bhangra music has done more to promote one aspect of desi culture (Punjabi dance and music) than almsot anything else in Britain.</p>
<p>The thing that is good to see is that it is the youth and teenagers who are DEMANDING to be taught this stuff. They see Panjabi MC and hear the music and want a piece of that &#8211; they feel pride in their bhangra culture because it gives them something to feel a part of &#8211; British Bhangra culture makes them feel good and have a British identity.</p>
<p>When the youth think of something as cool it thrives, you dont have to persuade them of its value. And learning dhol, bhangra and the dancing is seen by young Punjabis as the COOLEST thing out there.</p>
<p>Another effect it has is that Punjabi folk songs, idioms and poetry and language gets adapted and preserved in British life. The kids want to know Punjabi not because they are forced to learn it at Sunday School at the gurdwara, but because they want to speak and sing in it because it&#8217;s cool and part of the whole music scene.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9879</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kay

It is - and many people sneer at young Punjabis because they hear some tacky bahngra song and think it is all that but the culture is amazingly alive and thriving.

 If you are a young Punjabi in the UK it is simply the COOLEST thing in the world to know how to play the dhol or the tumbi - the two most basic instruments of bhangra. It is viewed not only as cool and funky but sexy too.

And all the dhol and bhangra troupes have lots of girls there too! The biggest one from Birmingham run by Gurcharan Mall is mixed about one third girls and two thirds boys. In 21st century Britain for this culture being kept alive organically BY THE YOUTH is amazingly healthy.

And some of the bhangra dance moves are extremely athletic and vibrant - almost like break dancing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kay</p>
<p>It is &#8211; and many people sneer at young Punjabis because they hear some tacky bahngra song and think it is all that but the culture is amazingly alive and thriving.</p>
<p> If you are a young Punjabi in the UK it is simply the COOLEST thing in the world to know how to play the dhol or the tumbi &#8211; the two most basic instruments of bhangra. It is viewed not only as cool and funky but sexy too.</p>
<p>And all the dhol and bhangra troupes have lots of girls there too! The biggest one from Birmingham run by Gurcharan Mall is mixed about one third girls and two thirds boys. In 21st century Britain for this culture being kept alive organically BY THE YOUTH is amazingly healthy.</p>
<p>And some of the bhangra dance moves are extremely athletic and vibrant &#8211; almost like break dancing.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9877</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i&#039;m just writing it phonetically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i&#8217;m just writing it phonetically.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9876</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah agree, I think you mean &#039;pungra&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah agree, I think you mean &#8216;pungra&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9874</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one knows how to throw a party like Sikhs though. The wife and I went to a party at Soho Spice on Friday night. The DJs were mixing pared down &#039;pungara&#039; beats with hip hop and modern filmi numbers. The crowd were hip and good natured, intimate dance floor. Good clean fun. Bopped till 4am, without any drugs. Well maybe a bit of the old Punjabi falling-down water. What a blast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one knows how to throw a party like Sikhs though. The wife and I went to a party at Soho Spice on Friday night. The DJs were mixing pared down &#8216;pungara&#8217; beats with hip hop and modern filmi numbers. The crowd were hip and good natured, intimate dance floor. Good clean fun. Bopped till 4am, without any drugs. Well maybe a bit of the old Punjabi falling-down water. What a blast.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay Singh, in some ways it implies that the asian youth today are in touch with their culture (dance specifically) but are infusing traditional with contemporary.

On this subject, the rise in the number of young dholaks (dhol players) is phenomenal, I mean dhol learning classes have waiting lists!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay Singh, in some ways it implies that the asian youth today are in touch with their culture (dance specifically) but are infusing traditional with contemporary.</p>
<p>On this subject, the rise in the number of young dholaks (dhol players) is phenomenal, I mean dhol learning classes have waiting lists!</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rohin, depends upon your upbringing and whether you&#039;ve been exposed to different form of dance.
The average Raj (the asian joe) is more likely to think alone the &#039;bhangra/garba&#039; mind frame.
Your gf must be pretty focused to have continued with Bharata-natyam for that long. I attempted it for 6 months and gosh its a hell of a lot harder then meets the eye. My other half just thought such form of dance was too complicated and boring, his words not mine.
Agree, there&#039;s far more to South Asian music then just bollypop and bhangra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohin, depends upon your upbringing and whether you&#8217;ve been exposed to different form of dance.<br />
The average Raj (the asian joe) is more likely to think alone the &#8216;bhangra/garba&#8217; mind frame.<br />
Your gf must be pretty focused to have continued with Bharata-natyam for that long. I attempted it for 6 months and gosh its a hell of a lot harder then meets the eye. My other half just thought such form of dance was too complicated and boring, his words not mine.<br />
Agree, there&#8217;s far more to South Asian music then just bollypop and bhangra.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rohin

Akram Khan is a modern dancer and like Shobana Jayasingh does all these fusion style modern art dancing - Dharshan Singh Bhuller is a ballet dancer.

There are dozens of bhangra dancing troupes across the country - you might sneer at it but at least Punjabi youth are doing something, young boys and girls who are active in learning a folk dance in modern British society because they think it is cool. Bhangra-giddha - the actual dances - has a whole culture and ethos with the instruments and different rhythms and moves are tied closely to the Punjabi culture. Seeing teenagers in Birmingham and Leicester and London having fun and performing might not be great art but it is healthy and lively and vibrant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rohin</p>
<p>Akram Khan is a modern dancer and like Shobana Jayasingh does all these fusion style modern art dancing &#8211; Dharshan Singh Bhuller is a ballet dancer.</p>
<p>There are dozens of bhangra dancing troupes across the country &#8211; you might sneer at it but at least Punjabi youth are doing something, young boys and girls who are active in learning a folk dance in modern British society because they think it is cool. Bhangra-giddha &#8211; the actual dances &#8211; has a whole culture and ethos with the instruments and different rhythms and moves are tied closely to the Punjabi culture. Seeing teenagers in Birmingham and Leicester and London having fun and performing might not be great art but it is healthy and lively and vibrant.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohin</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9869</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I should&#039;ve pre-fixed it with &#039;modern&#039; dance. Of course India has the richest classical dance heritage in the world. My gf did bharatanatyam for 16 years so I&#039;ve learnt a lot about classical dance from her. But I was being far less cultured and talking about pop and Bollywood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I should&#8217;ve pre-fixed it with &#8216;modern&#8217; dance. Of course India has the richest classical dance heritage in the world. My gf did bharatanatyam for 16 years so I&#8217;ve learnt a lot about classical dance from her. But I was being far less cultured and talking about pop and Bollywood.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9868</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Akram Khan

Dharshan Singh Bhuller

Shobana Jayasingh

Three desi&#039;s who are quite well known as &#039;upper end&#039; dancers on the artistic level</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akram Khan</p>
<p>Dharshan Singh Bhuller</p>
<p>Shobana Jayasingh</p>
<p>Three desi&#8217;s who are quite well known as &#8216;upper end&#8217; dancers on the artistic level</p>
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		<title>By: Rohin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kay, that&#039;s cos they&#039;re Indian dances! Why on earth would anyone want to dance garba/dandia I have no idea. But what annoys me more is when British Asians who&#039;ve lived in their Gujju/Punjabi world since birth assume that ALL Indians dance garba or bhangra.

I&#039;ll retract my &quot;most Indians can&#039;t dance&quot; line. I think the average Indian isn&#039;t too shoddy. But we lack the upper end of the spectrum. I haven&#039;t seen any high-profile Indians who can REALLY dance, bar perhaps Prabhu Deva. But even then, that&#039;s more &#039;unique&#039; than &#039;great&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kay, that&#8217;s cos they&#8217;re Indian dances! Why on earth would anyone want to dance garba/dandia I have no idea. But what annoys me more is when British Asians who&#8217;ve lived in their Gujju/Punjabi world since birth assume that ALL Indians dance garba or bhangra.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll retract my &#8220;most Indians can&#8217;t dance&#8221; line. I think the average Indian isn&#8217;t too shoddy. But we lack the upper end of the spectrum. I haven&#8217;t seen any high-profile Indians who can REALLY dance, bar perhaps Prabhu Deva. But even then, that&#8217;s more &#8216;unique&#8217; than &#8216;great&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a really interesting thread by the way - well worth looking at the debate they are having</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a really interesting thread by the way &#8211; well worth looking at the debate they are having</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/248/comment-page-1#comment-9862</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thread on that site Coruja linked to about the use of the term &#039;Asian&#039; in the UK and how it excludes Chinese people.

http://www.dimsum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=181</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thread on that site Coruja linked to about the use of the term &#8216;Asian&#8217; in the UK and how it excludes Chinese people.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dimsum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=181" rel="nofollow">http://www.dimsum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=181</a></p>
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