“Well, what a silly bitch.

Sorry.. no, I’m not.. Grr.. sorry.. oh, fook it.

Is it not possible to just ban it?”

How progressive of you.

“Bikhair’s ideas would goosestep Nazis into quivering submission. Fee Amanillah!”

In what way, specifically?

Douglas,

“Kurche. Kinder, Kuchen – very Nazi. Do you really subscribe to that ideology?Sad if you do.”

Sunny,

“Is it impossible for people to ignore Bikhair’s sillyness and not concentrate on actually having a decent conversation?”

When ouberty ends and manhood begins for you Sunny you will understand exactly what I am saying. Or are you one of those men who are completely dominated by thier progressive and liberated woman? I hope those panties fit. Dont worry after a while you will get sick of it and tell her to shut up and cook something.

Ha ha ha! (trying on Bikki’s maniacal laugh for size)

Bikhair’s ideas would goosestep Nazis into quivering submission. Fee Amanillah!

Sorry.. no, I’m not.. Grr.. sorry.. oh, fook it.

Is it not possible to just ban it?

Kurche. Kinder, Kuchen – very Nazi. Do you really subscribe to that ideology?Sad if you do.

You silly little sod. Still thinking I gives a shit?

“the men in my family this includes my mordern cousins still think a woman’s place is in the kitchen and all because their fathers and granfathers thought so. It is this mentality that is forcing women to do as they are told which includes having an abortion.”

It is a womans place to be in the kitchen. Who else is supposed to tend to the family while the men are out making a living- a better and more lucrative living? Children and husbands are supposed to go hungry while the woman is out being a career girl? Dont be immature and reactionary. Youre family and husband will love you if he comes home to well behaved children, a clean house, good food, and a nice looking physically fit and put together wife. Either that or you children will resent you, your husband will divorce or find some other women to do those things, and you will live the life of a spinster, or as Auntie Kiran.

Poor yo grand mama. Aisha (radiyallahu anhu) was a literate woman, with unparalled knowledge of the Shariat, Arab hsitory and poerty. Not even her husband (sallalahu alaihi wa salam) could read. Now had your corrupt family followed the ways of the noble sahabiyat (female companions) they would not have remained ignorate illiterate jahils. Until then continue to blame Islam and the hell fire on all your problems. Ha Ha Ha!

I believe it was the blessed Germaine Greere. She of the Female Eunoch who is now alleged to be someone who would see FGM is an acceptable cultural thing.

I hope she is being mis-quoted, and she doesn’t in fact read the Express, or African Mutilation Monthly, if the former title truly exists..

If these are in fact not her views, repulsive as they seem to be, she might like to take up my challenge that she appears on TV with you.

Probably not going to happen.

douglas

No, some dopey twat in the Guardian or somewhere.

the men in my family this includes my mordern cousins still think a woman’s place is in the kitchen and all because their fathers and granfathers thought so. It is this mentality that is forcing women to do as they are told which includes having an abortion.

My sisters and I have shown the men in my family that “SONS” are not everything. My mum who was suppressed by her mother-in law today is proud to say that she has “DAUGHTERS” and not sons. This is an example of the fact women do change even though it takes time and honestly men need to be put in their place coz they are the root cause of women taking extrme steps like aborting a female fetus.

What idiot? On PP?

I hope you are not referring to me (#57, thread 235).

Mr grandmother, when she asked why she was not allowed to learn to read and write, was told by her MOTHER that an education spelt trouble. She was denied an education because they feared she would be able to write love letters (bizzare, I know).

My gran was pretty much the same until one of her daughters went through a divorce. She then spent the rest of her years drumming it into her daughters and granddaughters alike that without an education we were nothing. In fact, I’m pretty proud of the fact that the women wear the trousers in this family.

Women need to change.

In these kind of societies, the strong desire for sons comes from value that society places on men compared with women, and cannot be seen in isolation. Not that this excuses those women who abort their female foetuses – they have bought into the prevailing value system but it does explain it.