Admittedly the 10-1 number was fiction. The hanging chads were not so lopsided, though they did heavily favor Democrats. The bigger disparity was in West Palm Beach and other places where Democrats evidently voted for two or more presidential candidates.

Would that be the hanging chads fiasco to which you refer? I don’t recall it being 10 to 1 in favour or deficit compared to the overall vote. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

Sometimes you just have to let the madder Democrats go. They were probably going to vote Republican anyway. In fact, they might simply be agents provocateurs.

Would that be the hanging chads fiasco to which you refer? I don’t recall it being 10 to 1 in favour or deficit compared to the overall vote. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

http://therightperspective.com/wordpress/?p=71

There’s a good reason why African-Americans think the appointment of Clarence Thomas is an insult, coming as it did after the retirement of that titan, Thurgood Marshall. It’s the same justification that saw Cory Booker unseat Sharper James in the city of Newark. Early in the Democratic primaries many of the old guard African-Americans, went for Hillary. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones was planning to go to Denver to answer the roll call for Hillary when she was felled by a stroke. The support for Obama began from outside the mainstream of the African-American community, and early on was confined to hte hopeless romantics among the youth and the post-baby boomers – white, black, brown or yellow. Norman Mineta was for Hillary but young Pacific-Americans went for Obama. The restaurateurs and moteliers went for Hillary while the Subodh Chandras and Jay Goyals rooted for Obama. While Ted Strickland rooted for Hillary, Sherrod Brown right from day 1 endorsed Obama. For the GOP Hillary would have been easier meat than Obama, till it decided to play the one card it knows will work. Even before the weep pick McCain’s campaign has been running divisive themes – elitist, celebrity, urban spender, unpatriotic, world citizen, etc., these are all tropes that were trotted out during the civil rights era, most notably about MLK. Then it was said that blacks did not need an elitist like MLK telling them what rights they needed. But today that cliche will not work, because even in the heartland, the youth are disgusted with these divisive attacks.

I don’t disagree with much of that, maybe the bit about the hopeless romantics, I never did see myself as a hopeless romantic, except in lurve, maybe….

Obama ’08!

Just shows to go ya that the political landscape in America is littered with immaturity, bias, and ignorance. It’s good to know, based on some comments here, that some Americans do in fact think for themselves, instead of letting a party or pundit do it for them.

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Meanwhile, in a Florida backyard, more proof of how far the US has come since the days of lynching and segregation.

Yes, burning, torturing, hanging blacks for looking at white women, apartheid, no voting rights… and now a sign in a redneck’s backyard. It’s a good thing someone has a good perspective on things.

The idea, occasionally flouted around, that the George Bush should be impeached for removing the Saddam regime would be a tad amusing, if it weren’t the earnest seriousness of those whom espouse it.

Impeached for lying, deceiving, breaking the law. There is actually a book that makes the legal case for Bush’s impeachment. If democrats were not pussies, that would be an open-and-shut case.

His water-boarding vid was disturbing to watch.

I love to watch that video. If only Galloway would follow suit…

Astonishing.

His water-boarding vid was disturbing to watch.

“Dick Cheney did sign off the use of waterboarding at Gitmo camp, which was used on three inmates. “

Well, a) the secrecy of Guantanamo means that that is all we can assume and b) the legality of it is institutional. The depraved John Yoo admitted that a President could legally torture children:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11488.htm

And there are, of course, multiple cases of torture in Iraq, and that only covers those that have been exposed. It’s possible that none of these were sanctioned, but they must be investigated nonetheless.

“We don’t have the results from the aforementioned investigation yet!”

Considering it’s already known to be illegal – he ordered it after it had been declared illegal – the latter is enough for the term to be unconditionally suitable.

“As for Pakistan, Obama has already stated he would authorise that. But if Obama does it, is it for better reasons?”

Nope.

Ben

Not quite. Dick Cheney did sign off the use of waterboarding at Gitmo camp, which was used on three inmates. Other techniques such as sleep deprivation were used on many more of the inmates at Gitmo.

ordering illegal surveillance, promotion of the Iraq War

Yes these need investigating in the proper way.

He is a criminal

Judge jury and executioner! We don’t have the results from the aforementioned investigation yet!

“Hundreds of thousands have been killed by assorted criminals, jihadis and militias, the vast majority either Sunni or Shia Muslim — not American. They were killed in the power vacuum of the removal of the baathist genocidal terror-like regime.”

Fair comment – I’m not aware of the casualty ratios.

Nevertheless, the Coalition forces have directly killed very many thousands – however ambiguous that is – in both wars, and still cover up the catastrophic results of their attacks.

They also bear responsibility for the power vacuum in Iraq. Removing the power structure from a nation that contains much rivalry and ethnic tension was madness, and that was exacerbated by corruption and lamentable pre-war planning.

“The idea, occasionally flouted around, that the George Bush should be impeached for removing the Saddam regime would be a tad amusing, if it weren’t the earnest seriousness of those whom espouse it.”

And institutionalising torture, ordering illegal surveillance, etc (not to mention his latest intrusion into Pakistan). He is a criminal, yes, and the promotion of the Iraq War, the torture memos and the aforementioned illegalities should all be investigated.

Ben

The Americans haven’t killed hundreds of thousands.

Hundreds of thousands have been killed by assorted criminals, jihadis and militias, the vast majority either Sunni or Shia Muslim — not American. They were killed in the power vacuum of the removal of the baathist genocidal terror-like regime.

You can’t blame all this on the Americans, the same way you can’t blame the world’s ills on the British for the terrible massacres and blood shed that resulted after the British had left their colonies and resulting in a power vacuum. Although I know many do subscribe to this viewpoint. This argument would have some merit if the natives were literally savages without the apparent ability to think for themselves. Yet this was never the case.

The idea, occasionally flouted around, that the George Bush should be impeached for removing the Saddam regime would be a tad amusing, if it weren’t the earnest seriousness of those whom espouse it.