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    Pakistani presenter calls for Ahmadis to be killed


    by Sunny
    15th September, 2008 at 1:58 am    

    The Asian Human Rights Commission issued this alert recently:

    The Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) has received information that an anchor person working for a prominent television channel [Geo TV] has incited Muslims in Pakistan to kill - to devastating effect. The targets are followers of the Muslim Ahmadi sect, a group which has been declared non-Islamic under the constitution of Pakistan. The first killing happened within 24 hours of the broadcast, and just under two days later a district chief of the Ahmadi was murdered. Followers of the religion are understandably frightened, and many have left their homes and are taking shelter at their central mosque, the Rabwa.

    The political party MQM subsequently rescinded his membership of the party, but no real action has been taken against him.


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    1. Nyrone — on 15th September, 2008 at 6:34 am  

      This is utterly despicable.
      If ever there was an example of idiotic, vile religious intolerance, the situation regarding Ahmadis/Qadianis would near the top. It’s just incredible, they believe in Allah, accept Muhammad as his prophet, follow the 5 pillars of Islam..and yet, these zero-brain celled nutcase ‘Muslim’ extremists are still willing to KILL THEM because they do not have the exact same belief as them…What kind of crap is this? Who gave them the exclusive right to define Islam?

      Regarding Dr. Amir Liaquat Hussain, the ‘former Federal minister for religious affairs’…Throw this irresponsible crook in jail for inciting violence. I really hope he is not reflective of the country, What Islam does he follow, calling for other Muslims to be lynched to death during Ramadan? I fear this open hatred for Ahmadis and backwards thinking has become ingrained in the culture and normalized…Ahmadis need to be better protected from this idiocy, certainly politically..

      Just reading the AHRC appeal, what’s also striking is the hate-fueled ferocity of these crimes committed too: “He was shot 11 times and died on the spot. His private guard was also shot and is in a serious condition. A woman was also injured by firing. The killers remained at the hospital until the doctor was declared dead, then they walked out of the building’s front entrance.”

      Bloody Cheek! These small-minded fundamentalist criminals should have been arrested soon after, what happened? Why didn’t the Pakistani police act more quickly?

      …and is anyone else but me shocked by the fact that they appear to specifically target Doctors? Since 1982, 15 Ahmadi doctors have been killed in the country…(ref: Punjab News)

      It’s sad indeed…and the situation is not much better in Bangladesh either, here is a good short report about the extremists there incase anyone is keen to get a visual picture of the persecution of Ahmadis:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VJnNab2zYI

    2. Muzaraff Mansoor — on 15th September, 2008 at 6:35 am  

      HUMAN RIGHTS RESTORATION INTERNAL FORUM UNITED KINGDOM
      HRRIF – UK
      The Case of Murder of innocent human beings:
      HRRIF is horrified to learn that two innocent Pakistani citizens belonging to a minority religious sect known as ‘Ahmadi Muslims’ were murdered shortly after a broadcaster on one of the country’s main television channels urged viewers to kill “blasphemers” and “apostates” as a sacred religious duty. According to the reports, Amir Liaqat Hussain, anchoring a programme ‘Aalim on line’ on the widely viewed GEO TV Sky Channel on September 7, declared that the murder of members of the Qadiani [derogatory word for Ahmadis] was (Wajib ul Qatal) the sacred duty of the Muslims. He followed up by urging two other participants on his program, who belonged to different sects of Islam, to endorse his viewpoint. Hussain, who is a former minister for religious affairs in Pakistan’s federal government, representing MQM reportedly obtained the endorsement he sought more than four times. Again on September 9, Hussain answered a query on a phone-in program with the comment that those guilty of the alleged sin of blasphemy should be put to death.
      Within 18 hours of the first broadcast, Abdul Manan Siddiqui, a heart specialist in the city of Mirpur Khas, in Sindh province, was murdered. He was the district Amir [chief] of the Ahmadi Community in Mirpur Khas.
      The doctor was reportedly called out of his clinic on the afternoon of September 8 by six people who pretended to have brought a patient. Siddiqui was dragged outside, shot 11 times and died on the spot. His private guard and a woman passer-by were also injured in the attack.
      The following day, Sheikh Muhammad Yousaf, a 75 years old rice trader and district Amir [chief] of the Ahmadi Community, was killed in the city of Nawab Shah, also in Sindh province the Home of the President Zardari. He was reportedly shot at by motorcycle borne assailants. Since the promulgation of the notorious Ahmadi-specific Ordinance XX in 1984, he is the 94th Ahmadi killed for his faith. The assailants had taken a route past a police station. No one was arrested.
      The HRRIF has strongly condemned the action and joins the AHRC, HRCP, IFJ and all other right thinking peace loving people in condemning the incitement to intolerance and violence apparent in the declaration made by Hussain and his two interlocutors. “Under legal standards for curbing hate speech in the media, the burden of proof is on Amir Liaqat Hussain and the channel that broadcast his program to establish that they do not bear some responsibility for the murder of two innocent men,”
      “Media outlets must implement measures to ensure their content abides by ethical principles, including curbs on hate speech, both in the interests of promoting tolerance and also to ensure there is no opening for state authorities to intervene in the expression of fair comment.” IFJ Asia-Pacific has rightly said
      Additional Information:
      The Ahmadi Muslim Community was declared non-Muslim on September 7, 1974, through a constitutional amendment, and was labeled a non Muslim minority by the PPP government. Since then, there has been open hatred of the Community by certain Islamic circles and fundamentalists across the Muslim world, and its members suffer widespread discrimination. Ahmadi followers are not allowed to pose like a Muslim and even bury their dead in the ordinary grave yards of Muslims, and many of those buried before 1974 were desecrated by fundamentalists.
      Dr. Ghulam Sarwar was murdered on March 19 in Faisalabad, Punjab province while Mr. Basharat Mughal on February 24 in Karachi. The Dr. Siddiqui is the 15th medical doctor killed since 1984. Religious Extremists across Pakistan incite hatred against Ahmadis
      their beliefs, and call for their killing. Most profane and unfortunate is
      it that these clerics are doing so during the holy and blessed month of
      Ramadhan, a month of fasting, prayer and quiet devotion.
      Is it not surprising and unbelievably absurd that under these circumstances, the authorities’ initiative amounted to registration of a criminal case under anti-Ahmadi specific laws Ahmadi jewelers, traders and businessmen at Chenab Nagar [Rabwah], who published Ramadan timetable for starting and closing the daily fast and “therein used the words ‘Imam’ and ‘Khilafat’, thereby injured the feelings of Muslims”, allegedly.
      The entire Ahmadi population in Kotli Azad Kashmir is also charged by the police under anti-Ahmadi specific legislation nd their names are published in the Khatme Nabuwwat Kotli newspaper.
      MQM gets rid of Dr Amir Liaquat Hussain:
      The MQM has already announced that the popular religious TV person, Amir Liaquat Hussain, is no longer a member of the party’s Rabita Committee because he is making statements that arouse “religious hatred”. The announcement specified that he had been “warned earlier to stop making such statements on his television programme”. The MQM actually said that owing to his inclination to arouse religious hatred “his party responsibilities were ended one and a half years ago and his membership was suspended as well”. Now the MQM doesn’t want to be “responsible for any of his words and deeds”.
      HRCP slams Ahmadi killings:
      The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) has called for action to protect the lives of minorities and to halt the practice of hate preaching through the media. In a statement issued on Wednesday 10th September 2008, the HRCP said: “On Monday, an eminent Ahmedi physician and cardiologist was shot dead in Mirpurkhas. The next day, another prominent Ahmadi was killed in Nawab Shah. The Ahmadiyya community believes there is a link between these brutal killings and a programme telecast by a private TV channel in which the host called for the killing of Ahmadis.” Even if there is no direct link, neither of the offences can be tolerated, it added. The Ahmedi community is within its legal rights to demand protection against instigators of violence, it said. The statement demanded that the government ensure that the killers of the Ahmadi citizens are brought to justice and that nobody is allowed to use the media to preach communal hatred and fratricide, said by HRCP.
      The HRRIF has noted:
      No direct and or indirect statement of condemnation was issued in this serious matter by any of the ruling political parties PPP and PML (N) leaders, their functionaries and the ministers.
      No statement and or concern are shown by the Prime Minister and or the President of Pakistan on behalf of their government.
      No remorse and or explanation are given by the Chairman and or board of directors of the GEOTV Limited.
      No Sue-Moto action is taken by any of the Chief Justices of Sindh High Court or the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
      None from the Pakistan Bar Council and or lawyers in Pakistan has made any statement, dharna and strike who have been championing for the cause for the human rights and independence of judiciary for some time.
      None of the G8 and donor countries ‘allies in the war on terror’ has made any statement or condemnation on the action and loss of innocent Ahmadi Muslims.
      HRRIF appreciates:
      Statement of condemnation in its strongest terms by none other than MQM leader Altaf Hussain in his press release and by live address to 20 cities and town in Pakistan.
      Statement of condemnation by the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan - HRCP
      Statement of condemnation by the Asian Human Rights Commission – AHRC
      Statement of condemnation by the International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) which represents over 600,000 journalists in 122 countries © International Federation of Journalists. Belgium Source: http://asiapacific.ifj.org/en/articles/ifj-condemns-inflammatory-broadcast-and-link-to-murders-in pakistan
      All other right thinking peace loving people who showed concern and have condemned the action and complained to the OFCOM.
      HRRIF demands from the concerned authorities and governments:
      Penalize and place ban on GEOTV Sky Channels 815 to stop further incitement to murders
      Take stern action against the agents of incitement, murderers and the perpetrators of intolerance and violence against the humanity.
      Charge the GEOTV under the corporate crime of murders,
      G8 and donors countries to show concern and place sanctions on the Government of Pakistan for failure to regulate irresponsible media provocation and to protect innocent killings of Ahmadi Muslims,

      Place ban on the militant Khatme Nabuwwat [KN].

      HRRIF Invites:
      While condemning strongly now invites all right thinking peace loving people, activists, organizations and human rights agencies from all over the world to voice concern condemnation and mount pressure on those responsible to protect human rights by letter to OFCOM Riverside House2a Southwark Bridge Road London SE1 9HA or call on 020 7981 3040 or 0300 123 3333 and or send an email, G8 donor governments through your MP and directly to the government of Pakistan at the following address:
      1. Mr. Asif Ali Zardari
      President of Pakistan
      President’s Secretariat
      Islamabad
      PAKISTAN
      Fax: +92 51 922 1422, 4768/ 920 1893 or 1835
      E-mail: (please see: http://www.presidentofpakistan.gov.pk/WTPresidentMessage.aspx)
      2. Mr. Syed Yousaf Raza Gillani
      Prime minister of Pakistan
      Prime Minister House
      Islamabad
      PAKISTAN
      Fax: 92-51-9221596
      Tel: +92-51-9206111
      E-mail: webmaster@infopak.gov.pk
      3. Mr. Rehman Malik
      Advisor for Ministry of Interior
      Room No. 404, 4th Floor, R Block,
      Pak Secretariat
      Islamabad
      PAKISTAN
      Fax: +92 51 920 2624
      Tel: +92 51 921 2026
      E-mail: minister@interior.gov.pk
      4. Dr. Ishrat-ul-Ebad Khan
      Governor of Sindh province
      Karachi, Sindh Province
      PAKISTAN
      Fax: +92 21 920 5043
      Tel: +92 21 920 1201
      E-mail: governor@governorsindh.gov.pk
      5. Syed Qaim Ali Shah
      Chief Minister House
      Karachi, Sindh Province
      PAKISTAN
      Fax: +92 21 920 2000
      E-mail: pppsindh@yahoo.co
      6. Chief Justice of Sindh High Court
      High Court Building
      Saddar, Karachi
      Sindh Province
      PAKISTAN
      Fax: +92 21 9213220
      E-mail: info@sindhhighcourt.gov.pk
      7. Ms. Nadia Gabol
      Minister for Human Rights
      Government of Sindh,
      Pakistan secretariat, Barrack 92,
      Karachi, Sindh Province
      PAKISTAN
      Tel: +92 21 9207043
      Fax: +92 21 9207044
      E-mail: lukshmil@yahoo.com
      8. Secretary
      (Criminal Prosecution) SGA &CD Department
      Government of Sindh
      Sindh Secretariat,
      Karachi, Sindh Province
      PAKISTAN
      Tel: +92 21 9213327-6
      Fax: +92 21 9213873
      E-mail: secy.cpsd@sindh.gov.pk
      9. Dr. Zulfiqar Ali Mirza
      Minister for Home
      Government of Sindh
      Barrack 79, Pakistan Secretariate
      Near MPA hostel
      Karachi, Sindh Province
      PAKISTAN
      Fax: +92 21 9204456
      Tel: +92 21 9201920-1
      E-mail: secy.home@sindh.gov.pk
      For urgent Appeals Programme
      Asian Human Rights Commission (ua@ahrchk.org)
      Thank you.
      Chairperson HRRIF
      Co-Chairperson HRRIF
      Fax: 020 8767 0456 W: hrrif.com E: info@hrrif.com

    3. DavidMWW — on 15th September, 2008 at 8:27 am  

      Geo TV is available here and therefore is subject to Ofcom regulation. I think this could, in theory, get them taken off the air in the UK. Dr. Amir Liaquat Hussain got them into trouble in May this year for praying for the death of Rushdie on air.

    4. Mazhar-ul-Haq Khan — on 15th September, 2008 at 9:39 am  

      http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=4QrmJx4uIa4

    5. ashik — on 15th September, 2008 at 12:21 pm  

      Nyrone, to clarify: Ahmadis do not believe in the Seal of the Prohets ie. that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was the final Prophet of God. The Ahmadi believe in Gulam Ahmed as a Prophet. Furthermore they are not permitted to perform Hajj. Hence they are considered outside mainstream Islam.

      However, I agree with you that inciting violence against people is entirely unacceptable. Especially for someone who holds a responsible position on a TV station.

    6. Sid — on 15th September, 2008 at 12:59 pm  

      What DavidMWW said.

      I’d like to table a motion: Revoke Geo TV’s UK license and ban the station from transmitting here in the UK, for incitement of hatred and Hate Speech.

      Zero tolerance for backward religious advocacy.

    7. platinum786 — on 15th September, 2008 at 2:25 pm  

      Please note GEO TV was also against former President Pervez Musharraf and is chief backer in the media of the “Lawyers movement” and is affiliated with Nawaz Sharif leader of the PML-N, who is also known to have some level of contact with religious extremists.

      I’m surprised at the Dr though. I’ve seen him on TV before when GEO used to be free and he seemed the sane type.

    8. DavidMWW — on 15th September, 2008 at 3:08 pm  

      Check out Geo TV’s Aalim Online webpage, where they claim:

      The Program has succeeded in showing the enlightened face of Islam as evidenced in the Holy Quran, Hadith, Fiqah & Sunnah. By asking scholars & Ulema from different sects of Islam to share a platform, the program has demonstrated the very many commonalities that unite us. It accepts pluralities of views in the sprit of tolerance & harmony.

    9. Hohum — on 15th September, 2008 at 4:08 pm  

      Outrageous.
      I had to turn off playing “Muslim massacre” game to write a letter of protest

    10. bananabrain — on 15th September, 2008 at 4:38 pm  

      although, to be fair, the ahmadis i’ve met are generally so annoying and smug that you can see where the fundamentalists have a point. perhaps we could do the same thing with the theosophical society?

      b’shalom

      bananabrain

    11. Nyrone — on 15th September, 2008 at 5:45 pm  

      @Ashik #4

      Depends on how wide your definition of Islam is willing to stretch…

      I’m not sure how many Ahmadi people you’ve come across, but every one I’ve met seems to refer to him not as an actual prophet, but someone who ‘renewed’ the faith..

      I don’t know how clear that is, but I don’t think anyone has the right to declare them as non-Muslims but themselves..from what I can see, there appear to only be fractional and minor differences between Sunnis and Ahmadis anyway…again, who gets to decide who is or isn’t a Muslim?

    12. Meer — on 15th September, 2008 at 7:11 pm  

      Here is some debate over various beliefs re Seal of the Prophets; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_the_Prophets

    13. Meer — on 15th September, 2008 at 7:16 pm  

      For those who understand Urdu here is Maulana Qasim Nanutwi founder of the Darulaloom Deoband and one of the forefathers of deobandi sect denying the conventional view on “Seal of the Prophets” i.e. in the meaning of last prophet;

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sw6Qyqjh04

      Him and others of similar views in previous link were not only not declared non-Muslims but are actually considered scholars of Islam…hmmmm.

    14. Sid — on 15th September, 2008 at 11:52 pm  

      although, to be fair, the ahmadis i’ve met are generally so annoying and smug that you can see where the fundamentalists have a point. perhaps we could do the same thing with the theosophical society?

      Most religious people believe in the truth of their own confession to the point of annoyance and smugness, to others. Some are so far their own arseholes they’re smug enough to believe their own BO doesn’t stink, set up comparitive-religion websites and pretend to do great work in interfaith groups - which are usually nothing more than advocacy for their own religious supremacism. Can you imagine?

    15. Jez — on 16th September, 2008 at 5:19 pm  

      If you watch Zardari take his oath (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7605430.stm) you’ll notice that he has to swear he believes that Muhammad is the last of the prophets. I believe that to get a Pakistani passport you have to sign something saying you are not an Ahmedi too. Violence and discrimination against Ahmedis is pretty routine in Pakistan.

    16. platinum786 — on 17th September, 2008 at 1:36 pm  

      That is not discrmination, it simply clarifying the religious group you fall under.

    17. Ahmadie — on 18th September, 2008 at 3:12 am  

      ASHIK…

      WE DO BELIEVE THAT PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH) WAS THE FINAL PROPHET OF GOD, SEAL OF THE PROPHETS. WE BELIEVE THAT HADHRAT MIRZA GHULAM AHMAD OF QADIAN IS THE PROMISED MESSIAH AND MAHDI. THERE IS ALOT OF DIFFERENCE IN THE WORDS PROPHET AND MESSIAH. SO ‘ASHIK’ GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE TELLING PEOPLE WHAT WE BELIEVE IN. IT’S NOT RIGHT THAT YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT THE FAITH AND YOUR TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT IT.

      AND YES WE HAVE TO WRITE ‘AHMADIE’ IN THE RELIGION COLOMN IN THE PASSORT FORMS. IF WE WRITE ‘ISLAM’ AS RELIGION, THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT IT AND WOULD ACCUSE US OF LYING.

    18. Saqib Tahir — on 22nd September, 2008 at 12:36 am  

      Crimes against Ahmedies in Pakistan and rest of Islamic world are condemnable and Ahmedies should be allowed freedoms to practice their religion. All discriminatory laws against Ahmedies must be scraped.

      At the same time I advise Ahmedies also to change their policies and stop cruel practices like ‘social boycott’, expulsions, hate propaganda, forced divorces and family breakups that they use against people who chose to leave Jamaat or express dissent about the policies or personal behaviour of Ahmedi leadership. It is highly hypocritical that Ahmedies don’t allow any Ahmedi to object on any belief or people of Mirza family but expect that others will tolerate their beliefs that are in conflict with some basic tenants of Main stream Islam.

      A lot of problems against Ahmedies are direct result of social isolation that Ahmedies have self-created due to their policy of not having marital and social relations with non-Ahmedi Muslims. This policy of Ahmadiyya has made this community a fortress community that is held hostage by their own dogmas - many purely based on hate.

      I am an Ahmedi by birth and hel many positions in Jamaat in my youth. Right now I am facing a severe social boycott by Ahmedi community including families of me and my wife. Is such practice human? My only crime was that I criticize corruption among clergy and so-called holy Mirza family and also some wrong practices including discrimination against women.

    19. Saqib Tahir — on 22nd September, 2008 at 12:37 am  

      Crimes against Ahmedies in Pakistan and rest of Islamic world are condemnable and Ahmedies should be allowed freedoms to practice their religion. All discriminatory laws against Ahmedies must be scraped.

      At the same time I advise Ahmedies also to change their policies and stop cruel practices like ‘social boycott’, expulsions, hate propaganda, forced divorces and family breakups that they use against people who chose to leave Jamaat or express dissent about the policies or personal behaviour of Ahmedi leadership. It is highly hypocritical that Ahmedies don’t allow any Ahmedi to object on any belief or people of Mirza family but expect that others will tolerate their beliefs that are in conflict with some basic tenants of Main stream Islam.

      A lot of problems against Ahmedies are direct result of social isolation that Ahmedies have self-created due to their policy of not having marital and social relations with non-Ahmedi Muslims. This policy of Ahmadiyya has made this community a fortress community that is held hostage by their own dogmas - many purely based on hate.

      I am an Ahmedi by birth and held many positions in Jamaat in my youth. Right now I am facing a severe social boycott by Ahmedi community including families of me and my wife. Is such practice human? My only crime was that I criticize corruption among clergy and so-called holy Mirza family and also some wrong practices including discrimination against women.

    20. sonia — on 22nd September, 2008 at 2:57 am  

      pathetic, and as nyrone says who gets to define islam anyway. the sunnis and shias can’t agree with each other and will fight each other, and then you have this sort of thing. peace love and tolerance!

    21. Syed Qalb-I-Abbas — on 7th November, 2008 at 12:04 pm  

      President of Pakistan,
      President Secretariat (Personal),
      Aiwan-e-Saddar,
      Islamabad.
      Fax:+92519221422, 4768/9201893, 1835, 7217.

      SUBJECT: REQUEST FOR RIGHT OF OWNERSHIP FOR THE PEOPLE OF DHOBI AHATA, SARAY RATAN CHAND UNDER EVACUEE TRUST PROPERTY BOARD.

      Dear Sir, A community of laundrymen and people, we had migrated from India to live in Muslim homeland of Pakistan in 1947 and had settled in Saraay Ratan Chand, Chowk Shah Alam Gate in the Bansanwala Bazar, Lahore. The houses that we took up for living here were taken over by the Evacuee Trust Property Board whose office at 9-Court Street, Lahore received rent from us. These houses were in dilapidated condition and the Saraay Rattan Chand area itself was also unlivable due to lack of drainage facilities. In the last 59 years, we have repaired these houses with our meager incomes and also spent money on the improvement of the area itself.

      We request the Government of Pakistan to Grant us the Right of Ownership of our houses as it has done to several kacchi-abadies of Lahore.

      Yours Obediently,

      INHABITANTS OF AREA
      Syed Qalb-I-Abbas,
      Saray Rattan Chand,
      Namak Mandi,
      Banswala Bazzar,
      Chowk Shah Alam,
      Lahore (Pakistan).

    22. bananabrain — on 7th November, 2008 at 12:46 pm  

      wow, now i’m confused….

      b’shalom

      bananabrain

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