Comments on: First Hindu school opens Monday http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329 Current affairs for a progressive generation Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:02:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Hohum http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129772 Hohum Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:12:06 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129772 The issue isnt Hindu schools Its that such schools are run by far right fascist Hindu organistaions like the RSS/VHP who teach hatred and genocide http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1194 The issue isnt Hindu schools
Its that such schools are run by far right fascist Hindu organistaions like the RSS/VHP who teach hatred and genocide

http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1194

]]> By: sonia http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129731 sonia Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:09:24 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129731 yes, and we should also be able to have pastafarian schools too. what kind of discrimination is it otherwise - only 'established' religions get a chunk of state funding? like i said, who wouldn't want to be a religion? *lets all come up with some religions and get *our own* schools. we could have some 'vegan' schools for vegan parents to send their offspring to. yes, and we should also be able to have pastafarian schools too. what kind of discrimination is it otherwise – only ‘established’ religions get a chunk of state funding?

like i said, who wouldn’t want to be a religion?

*lets all come up with some religions and get *our own* schools. we could have some ‘vegan’ schools for vegan parents to send their offspring to.

]]> By: sonia http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129730 sonia Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:08:07 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129730 why not have "race" schools too, then this is what i want to know. this school is only for white children to teach them white supremacy. id like to see some state funding for that kind of bolstering up of community spirit. after all as we know, some kids parents won't let them hang out with 'other' kind of kids therefore we should give them schools with only their own kind in 'em. (that was the logic behind why faith schools are' ok' on the other thread right?) so as long as parents are also going to discriminate on the basis of race, by same logic and consideration for the kids of these racial discrimination type parents, why we should have 'race' schools too. so fork out everone, come on. why not have “race” schools too, then this is what i want to know. this school is only for white children to teach them white supremacy. id like to see some state funding for that kind of bolstering up of community spirit. after all as we know, some kids parents won’t let them hang out with ‘other’ kind of kids therefore we should give them schools with only their own kind in ‘em. (that was the logic behind why faith schools are’ ok’ on the other thread right?) so as long as parents are also going to discriminate on the basis of race, by same logic and consideration for the kids of these racial discrimination type parents, why we should have ‘race’ schools too.

so fork out everone, come on.

]]> By: digitalcntrl http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129614 digitalcntrl Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:00:17 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129614 What will we have next, Rastafarian Schools? What will we have next, Rastafarian Schools?

]]> By: Sunny http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129611 Sunny Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:08:04 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129611 eh - the 'elsewhere' section is old unfortunately. but thanks for pointing out the bad link. all sorted now... eh – the ‘elsewhere’ section is old unfortunately.

but thanks for pointing out the bad link. all sorted now…

]]> By: Amrit http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129599 Amrit Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:24:20 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129599 @ Jai: Ah, it's all in the name of gender equality with me. You fellas can't be the only ones to get away with cracking jokes. ;-P @ Jai:

Ah, it’s all in the name of gender equality with me. You fellas can’t be the only ones to get away with cracking jokes. ;-P

]]> By: Jai http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129598 Jai Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:24:11 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129598 <blockquote>Lol. Sorry… I have a tendency to try and lower the tone every time I pop up ;-D</blockquote> Heaven help us, now there are two of us. I guess somebody has to compensate for the absence of Kismet Hardy's much-missed badmaash presence, eh guys ? ;)

Lol. Sorry… I have a tendency to try and lower the tone every time I pop up ;-D

Heaven help us, now there are two of us.

I guess somebody has to compensate for the absence of Kismet Hardy’s much-missed badmaash presence, eh guys ? ;)

]]> By: Amrit http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129597 Amrit Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:58:36 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129597 @ Ravi: Lol. Sorry... I have a tendency to try and lower the tone every time I pop up ;-D. It doesn't help when I'm also this happy. Desi: I wouldn't mind some hot Arab males either! @ Ravi:

Lol. Sorry… I have a tendency to try and lower the tone every time I pop up ;-D. It doesn’t help when I’m also this happy.

Desi:

I wouldn’t mind some hot Arab males either!

]]> By: Desi Italiana http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129595 Desi Italiana Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:52:12 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129595 "By the way, that single Arab lady on the ad to my right is hot" But alas, there are no pics of hot single Arab gentlemen. “By the way, that single Arab lady on the ad to my right is hot”

But alas, there are no pics of hot single Arab gentlemen.

]]> By: El Cid http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129594 El Cid Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:45:19 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129594 It's true, I shouldn't be encouraged. :) It’s true, I shouldn’t be encouraged. :)

]]> By: ashik http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129591 ashik Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:20:14 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129591 Faith school or no, in some less salubrious areas of London ie. those with high immigrant or ethnic minority concentration some schools are becoming de facto Muslim or Hindu schools. For example how many schools in Tower Hamlets have significant numbers of white children? Push pull factor of immigration and settlement at work. Faith school or no, in some less salubrious areas of London ie. those with high immigrant or ethnic minority concentration some schools are becoming de facto Muslim or Hindu schools. For example how many schools in Tower Hamlets have significant numbers of white children? Push pull factor of immigration and settlement at work.

]]> By: persephone http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129589 persephone Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:51:32 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129589 "How qualified are you to judge how ‘good’ an education in a Hindu school is?" To clarify, my comments were generic as to education & not specific to this Hindu School. As to a Hindu school, & faith schools per se, I do not agree on many counts - my 'qualification' for saying this is personal experience within my family Your answer to my question as to Why the stark labelling of state education as indoctrination - leaves the question unanswered. “How qualified are you to judge how ‘good’ an education in a Hindu school is?”

To clarify, my comments were generic as to education & not specific to this Hindu School. As to a Hindu school, & faith schools per se, I do not agree on many counts – my ‘qualification’ for saying this is personal experience within my family

Your answer to my question as to Why the stark labelling of state education as indoctrination – leaves the question unanswered.

]]> By: Blood Orange http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129588 Blood Orange Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:32:18 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129588 <i>What do you mean? Can you give specific examples?</i> The national curriculum. <i>Why the stark labelling of state education as indoctrination?</i> Because that is what it is. <i> Most (good/adequate) education gives you the power of knowledge & analysis to enable you to accept, challenge or refute something. </i> 'Good' and 'adequate' are subjective values. <i>The opposite of indoctrination would you not say.</i> All education is indoctrination, that is my point. Some indoctrination may be better than others though. How qualified are you to judge how 'good' an education in a Hindu school is? What do you mean? Can you give specific examples?

The national curriculum.

Why the stark labelling of state education as indoctrination?

Because that is what it is.

Most (good/adequate) education gives you the power of knowledge & analysis to enable you to accept, challenge or refute something.

‘Good’ and ‘adequate’ are subjective values.

The opposite of indoctrination would you not say.

All education is indoctrination, that is my point. Some indoctrination may be better than others though.

How qualified are you to judge how ‘good’ an education in a Hindu school is?

]]> By: persephone http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129587 persephone Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:51:15 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129587 Blood orange @ 8 Why the stark labelling of state education as indoctrination? Most (good/adequate) education gives you the power of knowledge & analysis to enable you to accept, challenge or refute something. The opposite of indoctrination would you not say. Also, your comment infers that children go through school life like a passive empty vessel waiting to be filled & no independent thought. Blood orange @ 8

Why the stark labelling of state education as indoctrination? Most (good/adequate) education gives you the power of knowledge & analysis to enable you to accept, challenge or refute something. The opposite of indoctrination would you not say.

Also, your comment infers that children go through school life like a passive empty vessel waiting to be filled & no independent thought.

]]> By: Ravi Naik http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129586 Ravi Naik Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:48:20 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129586 <blockquote>I agree, I think she’s turned the head of many a person on this site. Even me, and I’m female ferChrissakes!</blockquote> Heh. You shouldn't encourage El Cid.

I agree, I think she’s turned the head of many a person on this site. Even me, and I’m female ferChrissakes!

Heh. You shouldn’t encourage El Cid.

]]> By: Ravi Naik http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129585 Ravi Naik Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:47:27 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129585 <blockquote>One is state indoctrination</blockquote> What do you mean? Can you give specific examples?

One is state indoctrination

What do you mean? Can you give specific examples?

]]> By: Blood Orange http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129582 Blood Orange Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:34:25 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129582 <i>Well at the very least, state schools give children some semblance of a choice of spiritual/religious paths to follow.</i> One is state indoctrination, the other is religious indoctrination. Why do you favour the former over the latter? Well at the very least, state schools give children some semblance of a choice of spiritual/religious paths to follow.

One is state indoctrination, the other is religious indoctrination.

Why do you favour the former over the latter?

]]> By: Amrit http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129576 Amrit Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:57:12 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129576 'Change ‘parents’ to ‘the government’ and how is this different to a state education?' Well at the very least, state schools give children some semblance of a choice of spiritual/religious paths to follow. Plopping them in a faith school and exposing them continually to ONE privileged viewpoint doesn't really compare to that. @ El Cid: Lol. I agree, I think she's turned the head of many a person on this site. Even me, and I'm female ferChrissakes! ‘Change ‘parents’ to ‘the government’ and how is this different to a state education?’

Well at the very least, state schools give children some semblance of a choice of spiritual/religious paths to follow.

Plopping them in a faith school and exposing them continually to ONE privileged viewpoint doesn’t really compare to that.

@ El Cid: Lol. I agree, I think she’s turned the head of many a person on this site. Even me, and I’m female ferChrissakes!

]]> By: El Cid http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129573 El Cid Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:42:41 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129573 By the way, that single Arab lady on the ad to my right is hot By the way, that single Arab lady on the ad to my right is hot

]]> By: El Cid http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2329#comment-129572 El Cid Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:42:02 +0000 http://www.pickledpolitics.com/?p=2329#comment-129572 Oi, Tory Boy, I think you'll find that private schools drive wedges between groups of people like no other force in society. Oi, Tory Boy, I think you’ll find that private schools drive wedges between groups of people like no other force in society.

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