First Hindu school opens Monday


by Sunny
12th September, 2008 at 1:10 am    

… and already the excuses have started. I’m not for faith schools, but I accept that it would be discriminatory to stop more non-CoE schools being opened. Which is why I signed the Accord Coalition statement.


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  1. Amrit — on 12th September, 2008 at 1:39 am  

    ‘Nitesh Gor, chairman of governors at Krishna-Avanti, rejected the argument, saying faith schools provided a good education and helped children form strong identities.’

    Trans.: It provides children with an education WE find necessary (in ‘their’ culture) and allows them to ‘adopt’ (i.e. imbibe through lack of choice) the values that their parents feel they ought to have, and are presumably going to pay towards.

    Is that BS I smell?

  2. eh — on 12th September, 2008 at 5:45 am  

    Completely OT –

    Sunny or whoever has access to the inner workings of the site might want to check the PHP that codes the “elsewhere – on blogs” links on the RHS of the page – they’re all from Sept/Oct 2007 for some reason?!?!?

    And your Accord Coalition link on this post gives an error too.

    Other than that, sterling work!

  3. Letters From A Tory — on 12th September, 2008 at 9:48 am  

    Bloody disgrace. All faith schools drive wedges between groups of people like no other force in society.

    http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com

  4. Sikander Hayat — on 12th September, 2008 at 9:55 am  

    It provides children with an education WE find necessary (in ‘their’ culture) and allows them to ‘adopt’ (i.e. imbibe through lack of choice) the values that their parents feel they ought to have, and are presumably going to pay towards.

    Change ‘parents’ to ‘the government’ and how is this different to a state education?

  5. El Cid — on 12th September, 2008 at 12:42 pm  

    Oi, Tory Boy, I think you’ll find that private schools drive wedges between groups of people like no other force in society.

  6. El Cid — on 12th September, 2008 at 12:42 pm  

    By the way, that single Arab lady on the ad to my right is hot

  7. Amrit — on 12th September, 2008 at 12:57 pm  

    ‘Change ‘parents’ to ‘the government’ and how is this different to a state education?’

    Well at the very least, state schools give children some semblance of a choice of spiritual/religious paths to follow.

    Plopping them in a faith school and exposing them continually to ONE privileged viewpoint doesn’t really compare to that.

    @ El Cid: Lol. I agree, I think she’s turned the head of many a person on this site. Even me, and I’m female ferChrissakes!

  8. Blood Orange — on 12th September, 2008 at 1:34 pm  

    Well at the very least, state schools give children some semblance of a choice of spiritual/religious paths to follow.

    One is state indoctrination, the other is religious indoctrination.

    Why do you favour the former over the latter?

  9. Ravi Naik — on 12th September, 2008 at 2:47 pm  

    One is state indoctrination

    What do you mean? Can you give specific examples?

  10. Ravi Naik — on 12th September, 2008 at 2:48 pm  

    I agree, I think she’s turned the head of many a person on this site. Even me, and I’m female ferChrissakes!

    Heh. You shouldn’t encourage El Cid.

  11. persephone — on 12th September, 2008 at 2:51 pm  

    Blood orange @ 8

    Why the stark labelling of state education as indoctrination? Most (good/adequate) education gives you the power of knowledge & analysis to enable you to accept, challenge or refute something. The opposite of indoctrination would you not say.

    Also, your comment infers that children go through school life like a passive empty vessel waiting to be filled & no independent thought.

  12. Blood Orange — on 12th September, 2008 at 3:32 pm  

    What do you mean? Can you give specific examples?

    The national curriculum.

    Why the stark labelling of state education as indoctrination?

    Because that is what it is.

    Most (good/adequate) education gives you the power of knowledge & analysis to enable you to accept, challenge or refute something.

    ‘Good’ and ‘adequate’ are subjective values.

    The opposite of indoctrination would you not say.

    All education is indoctrination, that is my point. Some indoctrination may be better than others though.

    How qualified are you to judge how ‘good’ an education in a Hindu school is?

  13. persephone — on 12th September, 2008 at 3:51 pm  

    “How qualified are you to judge how ‘good’ an education in a Hindu school is?”

    To clarify, my comments were generic as to education & not specific to this Hindu School. As to a Hindu school, & faith schools per se, I do not agree on many counts – my ‘qualification’ for saying this is personal experience within my family

    Your answer to my question as to Why the stark labelling of state education as indoctrination – leaves the question unanswered.

  14. ashik — on 12th September, 2008 at 4:20 pm  

    Faith school or no, in some less salubrious areas of London ie. those with high immigrant or ethnic minority concentration some schools are becoming de facto Muslim or Hindu schools. For example how many schools in Tower Hamlets have significant numbers of white children? Push pull factor of immigration and settlement at work.

  15. El Cid — on 12th September, 2008 at 4:45 pm  

    It’s true, I shouldn’t be encouraged. :)

  16. Desi Italiana — on 12th September, 2008 at 4:52 pm  

    “By the way, that single Arab lady on the ad to my right is hot”

    But alas, there are no pics of hot single Arab gentlemen.

  17. Amrit — on 12th September, 2008 at 4:58 pm  

    @ Ravi:

    Lol. Sorry… I have a tendency to try and lower the tone every time I pop up ;-D. It doesn’t help when I’m also this happy.

    Desi:

    I wouldn’t mind some hot Arab males either!

  18. Jai — on 12th September, 2008 at 5:24 pm  

    Lol. Sorry… I have a tendency to try and lower the tone every time I pop up ;-D

    Heaven help us, now there are two of us.

    I guess somebody has to compensate for the absence of Kismet Hardy’s much-missed badmaash presence, eh guys ? ;)

  19. Amrit — on 12th September, 2008 at 6:24 pm  

    @ Jai:

    Ah, it’s all in the name of gender equality with me. You fellas can’t be the only ones to get away with cracking jokes. ;-P

  20. Sunny — on 13th September, 2008 at 1:08 am  

    eh – the ‘elsewhere’ section is old unfortunately.

    but thanks for pointing out the bad link. all sorted now…

  21. digitalcntrl — on 13th September, 2008 at 3:00 am  

    What will we have next, Rastafarian Schools?

  22. sonia — on 14th September, 2008 at 10:08 pm  

    why not have “race” schools too, then this is what i want to know. this school is only for white children to teach them white supremacy. id like to see some state funding for that kind of bolstering up of community spirit. after all as we know, some kids parents won’t let them hang out with ‘other’ kind of kids therefore we should give them schools with only their own kind in ‘em. (that was the logic behind why faith schools are’ ok’ on the other thread right?) so as long as parents are also going to discriminate on the basis of race, by same logic and consideration for the kids of these racial discrimination type parents, why we should have ‘race’ schools too.

    so fork out everone, come on.

  23. sonia — on 14th September, 2008 at 10:09 pm  

    yes, and we should also be able to have pastafarian schools too. what kind of discrimination is it otherwise – only ‘established’ religions get a chunk of state funding?

    like i said, who wouldn’t want to be a religion?

    *lets all come up with some religions and get *our own* schools. we could have some ‘vegan’ schools for vegan parents to send their offspring to.

  24. Hohum — on 15th September, 2008 at 4:12 pm  

    The issue isnt Hindu schools
    Its that such schools are run by far right fascist Hindu organistaions like the RSS/VHP who teach hatred and genocide

    http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/1194

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