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  • ‘Muslim Massacre’ and publicity


    by Sunny
    11th September, 2008 at 5:12 pm    

    So… yesterday afternoon, the Ramadhan Foundation sent out a press release condeming a videogame called ‘Muslim Massacre’ that no one had heard of. Some guy created in his spare time and released it through the SomethingAwful forums.

    Today, half the British press is on the story and no doubt there will be plenty more people downloading the game. Which raises an interesting conundrum doesn’t it - do you make noise about something so obviously offensive, and then see it blow up in the media, or keep quiet? Just to be clear - its near impossible to get the game banned., especially going by US law.


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    1. mediawatchwatch.org.uk » Ramadhan Foundation turns crap computer game into internet sensation

      [...] tip Pickled Politics) Monitor @ 9:59 [...]




    1. Ravi Naik — on 11th September, 2008 at 5:39 pm  

      This really shows that such organisations only want to play victims and get into the spotlight, in return for giving publicity to a game that no doubt will be played by a lot of people, just to see what the fuss is all about.

      The fact is it probably took this loser an hour or so to do this game. These days, all it takes is a game engine, a bitmap editor, and a microphone to record a dialog (if you are a perfectionist :) .

    2. Boyo — on 11th September, 2008 at 5:46 pm  

      “Just to be clear - its near impossible to get the game banned., especially going by US law.”

      Thank heavens. Some say it’s been made by a rightist, other by a leftist making a point. In any case, ENOUGH WITH THE BANNING. America may have it’s many faults but the knee jerk reaction for the political poles in this country to ban this and that - this is hatred, that’s fair comment. Get it all out in the open I say, from rabid jihadis to racist cnuts. Trying to bury it just provides it all with a lustre it doesn’t deserve.

      Thank God the internet is governed by American laws. God bless America! Ha!

      Ok, I’ll go lay down.

    3. Sunny — on 11th September, 2008 at 5:56 pm  

      Yes, I think you should Boyo…

    4. Sid — on 11th September, 2008 at 5:56 pm  

      Here is a discussion amongst another group of similar whingers on catholic.com, complaining about how “anti-Catholic and anti-American” XBox 360′s Assassin’s Creed is.

    5. Sunny — on 11th September, 2008 at 6:01 pm  

      Wait, did you say anti-american??

      thats it!! racist!! ban it!!!!

    6. Dee — on 11th September, 2008 at 6:02 pm  

      I didnt know about it, but i do now and will download it.

      The irony is you can’t buy marketing like this

    7. Ravi Naik — on 11th September, 2008 at 6:14 pm  

      complaining about how “anti-Catholic and anti-American” XBox 360’s Assassin’s Creed is.

      This game is very politically correct when it comes to portraying Christians and Muslims during the crusades. Of course I have not finish it, and I am pissed off that you might have ruined the ending with that “anti-American” reference.

    8. Sid — on 11th September, 2008 at 7:37 pm  

      Of course I have not finish it, and I am pissed off that you might have ruined the ending with that “anti-American” reference.

      Not my reference, it’s by someone who obviously thinks a game about the Crusades which happened 500 years before America was discovered is anti-American. Do remember that in American schools prayer is compulsory but history is not.

    9. Cabalamat — on 11th September, 2008 at 7:40 pm  

      If you wanted to put a Trojan on lots of people’s computers, this would be one way to do it.

    10. MaidMarian — on 11th September, 2008 at 7:46 pm  

      Maybe a slight side point here - but is there not a suggestion that there are just too many people (rightly or wrongly) taking umbrage and speaking for classes of people.

      Baiting groups over the internt is easy, as this and any number of other examples. Getting a shrill response safe in the knowledge that media are always looking on the internet for conflict to write about is a cheap and ever easier way of getting publicity.

      Fewer people getting the hump and getting it all off their chest on the internet would not be a bad thing.

    11. Ravi Naik — on 11th September, 2008 at 7:50 pm  

      Not my reference, it’s by someone who obviously thinks a game about the Crusades which happened 500 years before America was discovered

      The game actually happens in the present. A guy is kidnapped by an evil (?) institution, and they have a special machine where they scan his DNA memory - because apparently, memories from your ancestors get propagated through the DNA. (I know!)

      So they are searching a secret from the crusades which can be unlocked by his ancestor (an assassin) at that time, and you are forced to relive his memories. The anti-american reference must the institution or the people that are after the “secret”… I have to finish the game to find out.

    12. Refresh — on 11th September, 2008 at 9:46 pm  

      Lets hope no young misguided muslim develops a game to counter this one. And similarly no muslim gets caught with a copy. I don’t think our courts could cope.

    13. Nyrone — on 11th September, 2008 at 11:09 pm  

      Part of me wants to tell the Ramadhan Foundation to just shut the hell up, because they’ve been largely responsible for blowing this story up into the mainstream, when it originated on small gaming blogs and would have died there after a day unless Joystiq, Kotaku and eventually IGN didn’t pick it up and go with it…

      So, I’ve seen ‘the story’ go from being this tiny retro game (Read: freeware download) that most people obviously see as clearly racist and bigoted (Imagine Jew Massacre or Christian Massacre)made by some racist in his bedroom to becoming a viable debate on freedom of speech and promting a so-called ‘legitimate’ discussion…!

      It’s a non-issue people, bedroom coders have forever been making these racist ethnic cleansing games, including Pro-Hamas ones where your ‘mission’ is to kill all Israelis…so, it ain’t nothing new, and it’s not as if this one has some kind of publisher or is available in shops….isn’t it just the same as some racist fool writing a nasty poem in his bedroom and putting up on the web? Should such fuss be made because of it?

      I think all this press has given it maximum publicity that it didn’t need, and has now inadvertently pushed people to download it just for fun and curiosity…

      However, on the other hand…I think it’s good that all this recorded info of yet more irrational Muslim-bashing is in the mainstream media, so that people are aware it exists, and is getting worse..

    14. Leon — on 11th September, 2008 at 11:50 pm  

      I’ve been a gamer for nearly 25 years, played all kind of shit but this game is vile in my opinion. There’s one thing to create a GTA type game but to create one where the purpose to wipe out all Muslims is more than a little off key.

      Imagine if this was about killing all Jews would it be easy to take the piss out of some organisation spotting a publicity opportunity?

      It fucks me off that games get such bad press as it is without some idiot bedroom coder creating crap like this…

    15. Don — on 12th September, 2008 at 12:38 am  

      What are these ‘videogames’ of which you speak?

    16. Leon — on 12th September, 2008 at 12:49 am  

      Tetris.

    17. Golam Murtaza — on 12th September, 2008 at 8:38 am  

      I bet the graphics are rubbish. I’ll stick to GRAND THEFT AUTO.

    18. Refresh — on 12th September, 2008 at 10:31 am  

      I think Ramadhan Foundation is to be congratulated.

      It needed someone to pick up the mirror and place in front of our disfigured society. The psychological damage is being done right here, at home. Not in a far distant land where you can fly drones and kill wedding parties at will. There we only take uncelebrated lives.

      Placing this development in the public domain marks out something much bigger than a racist in a bedroom.

      It reminds me of all the violent games and films that have passed before where the baddies always seemed to have dark hair, moustaches and wore those, now fashionable, large chequered scarves.

    19. Refresh — on 12th September, 2008 at 10:48 am  

      Nyrone, I can see why you would want the Foundation to ‘shut the hell up’, but we have got to a stage where there is no option but to put up resistance at every stage. And its got to get past the point where muslims themselves are told to keep quiet, whilst the sociopathic media determines our future.

    20. Ravi Naik — on 13th September, 2008 at 10:14 am  

      Nyrone, I can see why you would want the Foundation to ’shut the hell up’, but we have got to a stage where there is no option but to put up resistance at every stage

      That’s disingenuous. This is a game that is very *very* obscured. And what the Foundation managed to do is give free publicity, and now because of its actions, thousands of people will be playing it. It has brought the game into the mainstream.

      And one has to ask: if you want to play victim, why are you using this extreme, fringe and obscured example? Shouldn’t we focus on the mainstream? You know, like tabloids and the rest of the media?

    21. Refresh — on 13th September, 2008 at 3:37 pm  

      That’s your opinion and your welcome to it. But it is not disingenous. It makes a serious point very pointedly. Lets have it in the mainstream instead of festering in bedrooms.

      If you want to think there are no victims then I am afraid you are at risk of being disingenuous.

      I would agree serious attention should ALSO be paid to the tabloids AND the politicos and blogs driving this.

      You tackle bigotry from a position of no tolerance.

    22. Underage gamer — on 13th September, 2008 at 4:53 pm  

      Does anyone have a working download link for this game?

      The main website isn’t working and the internet has been swamped with dramafags all spouting the same spunk.

    23. Ed Lomax — on 13th September, 2008 at 10:44 pm  

      Try bittorrent:

      http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4393139

    24. Ravi Naik — on 13th September, 2008 at 11:09 pm  

      Lets have it in the mainstream instead of festering in bedrooms.

      Speak for yourself. There is no way you can censor or ban these type of games or extremist speech, and the best thing you can do is push it out of the mainstream. I certainly do not want extremist filth having the light of day and in the open.

      If you want to think there are no victims then I am afraid you are at risk of being disingenuous.

      I guess you have proof that there are victims, uh?

      You tackle bigotry from a position of no tolerance.

      You tackle bigotry by ensuring that it is considered extremist and fringe by the mainstream. It is disingenuous to suggest that the mainstream - even right-wing tabloids - are ok with games titled “Muslim massacre”.

    25. Refresh — on 14th September, 2008 at 12:25 am  

      ‘I guess you have proof that there are victims, uh?’

      Are you sure you haven’t come across muslims being attacked, for being muslims?

      You’ve not come across the growing figures that tell you people with muslim-sounding names are less likely to be employed?

      ‘You tackle bigotry by ensuring that it is considered extremist and fringe by the mainstream.’

      I am not sure you understand, bringing into the mainstream means bringing it into the light and rallying the mainstream to show it to be extreme, and all shades in between.

      ‘It is disingenuous to suggest that the mainstream - even right-wing tabloids - are ok with games titled “Muslim massacre”.’

      I think you are pulling a fast one here. I do not suggest it, what I do suggest is that unless this slide is halted its only a matter of time before it becomes acceptable.

    26. Ravi Naik — on 14th September, 2008 at 1:17 am  

      I think you are pulling a fast one here. I do not suggest it, what I do suggest is that unless this slide is halted its only a matter of time before it becomes acceptable.

      What you are basically saying is that you should bring something that no one has heard about into the light, resulting in thousands of people now playing it, and that is a necessary measure to prevent it from becoming acceptable?

    27. douglas clark — on 14th September, 2008 at 1:57 am  

      Refresh,

      I am a one man band.

      So, I am sick to the back teeth of folk claiming a ‘right’ to this sort of egregious shite:

      I think you are pulling a fast one here. I do not suggest it, what I do suggest is that unless this slide is halted its only a matter of time before it becomes acceptable.

      It is clearly already acceptable. Within a scarcely significant number of bedroom dwelling trolls.

      I doubt that they are even racist, they are just stupid.

      You are beginning to sound like Mary Whitehouse. And look where that got her. You can even say ‘fuck’ on TV these days.

      You, nor anyone else, is likely to stop this sort of stuff. Getting on your high horse about it is just going to make you look daft.

      That is pluralism, so it is.

      BTW, I think they are tits.

      Sorry about that.

    28. fugstar — on 14th September, 2008 at 4:49 am  

      ramadhan foundation does more than moan. just an expression of indignity. muslims with a little mojo about them will tend not to keel over and take that kind of stuff. someone should investigate the chap who made the thing and give him a bit of scrutiny. though perhaps the pentagon will even employ him…

      remember cannon fodder 2? with the arabs. back in the days of comparative innocence…

    29. Ravi Naik — on 14th September, 2008 at 10:12 am  

      Let’s have some facts straight, shall we? The rise in violence against Muslims and South Asians is a direct consequence of radical Muslim attacks in 9/11 and 7/7, not a game created by a jerk in his bedroom and that no one has heard about. So, it would be much more productive for the foundation to tackle extremism and hate speech that exists in some Mosques in this country, which has the effect of increasing alienation, and foment the seeds of radicalization and worse.

      I have seen this game, and the most offensive part is the title, which is unacceptable. The game itself is about a G.I. who goes on to hunt Bin Laden after 9/11, and in the process kills a bunch of jihadists. Radical jihadists have also done a few games were the goal is to kill american soldiers (and ultimately Bush).

      This one is hilarious where the jihadist kills Bush: too easy to finish, propaganda, and no exit door.

    30. persephone — on 14th September, 2008 at 1:13 pm  

      @ 26 “You’ve not come across the growing figures that tell you people with muslim-sounding names are less likely to be employed?”

      Then they can join others in the ‘marginalised by employers’ queue such as those with female sounding names, those with school/university names w/t old boy’s network sounding connections, any other ‘exotic’ sounding name, those who are above a certain age etc.

      Its a long queue - I get tired of where one marginalised group (and the institutions which aim to represent them) want to be seen of as the most discriminated & therefore in front of the queue.

    31. Refresh — on 15th September, 2008 at 11:16 pm  

      ‘The rise in violence against Muslims and South Asians is a direct consequence of radical Muslim attacks in 9/11 and 7/7, not a game created by a jerk in his bedroom and that no one has heard about.’

      I am sure. Add to that the massive propaganda campaign to justify the war on Iraq. So all in all no one wins.

      It is not much of a justification for you to call the Ramadhan Foundation.

      ‘What you are basically saying is that you should bring something that no one has heard about into the light, resulting in thousands of people now playing it, and that is a necessary measure to prevent it from becoming acceptable?’

      If we had not learnt a lot more about what went on with the KKK in Deep South; what went on in apartheid SA; and what goes in many other places it is entirely possible there would not have been the mobilisation of public opinion against it.

      Yes let them play their games, as no doubt they will, but unless there is resistance to it, it will become part of the mainstream.

      Douglas, not sure what you are calling ‘egregious shite’ - what I had to say or what is going on? If its becoming acceptable does it not concern you?

      Mary Whitehouse? Perhaps, if only for my concern about the drop in standards and manners. I still object to use of the f-word. There are so many innocuous story-lines wrecked by a solitary use of the word. Where Mary Whitehouse and I differ - she was a rabid Tory, I am not; and I would prefer to have things in the open so we can deal with them, she rather we just didn’t talk about them.

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