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		<title>By: shariq</title>
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		<dc:creator>shariq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shamit, excellent point about the excellence of Bill Clinton&#039;s oratory - the speech at the convention was incredibly good.

Btw, Obama did talk about personal responsibility in his MLK day speech. The great thing is he can do that while still seeing the structural problems as well. In essence its a synthesis of what McWhorter and Loury have been talking and arguing about on Bloggingheads.

http://www.barackobama.com/2008/01/20/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_40.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shamit, excellent point about the excellence of Bill Clinton&#8217;s oratory &#8211; the speech at the convention was incredibly good.</p>
<p>Btw, Obama did talk about personal responsibility in his MLK day speech. The great thing is he can do that while still seeing the structural problems as well. In essence its a synthesis of what McWhorter and Loury have been talking and arguing about on Bloggingheads.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.barackobama.com/2008/01/20/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_40.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.barackobama.com/2008/01/20/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_40.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&#039;My review of John McWhorter’s book, ‘Losing the Race’ is also relevant.&#039;&#039;

I think he&#039;s really good. Here he is talking about whether racism will matter in November, and &#039;&#039;Is it OK for white people to embrace whiteness?&#039;&#039;
http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/11372?in=00:28:48</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;My review of John McWhorter’s book, ‘Losing the Race’ is also relevant.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think he&#8217;s really good. Here he is talking about whether racism will matter in November, and &#8221;Is it OK for white people to embrace whiteness?&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/11372?in=00:28:48" rel="nofollow">http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/11372?in=00:28:48</a></p>
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		<title>By: Letters From A Tory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Letters From A Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it very irritating that I agree with Obama whenever he talks about certain social issues but as soon as he talks about the economy or anything on that scale, he starts to look very shaky.

http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very irritating that I agree with Obama whenever he talks about certain social issues but as soon as he talks about the economy or anything on that scale, he starts to look very shaky.</p>
<p><a href="http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: flipside</title>
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		<dc:creator>flipside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Blacks/+Doc-Blacks-Africa/TheSordidRealityOfAfrica.htm</description>
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		<title>By: Shamit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shamit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting though -- Obama now thinks that the welfare reform bill which President Clinton signed was very good and delivered more than he thought it would. And especially on the specific issues he discussed above.  And also he talks about personal responsibility far more than before. He reminds me more and more of Bill Clinton running in 1992. 

On Oratory -- Obama is brilliant but there were quite a few who were equally good if not better. Reagan and Clinton in the US.  Blair in the UK definitely.    

If you look at oratory, Bill Clinton is actually very very good and was brilliant when he was running for President in 1992. However, the difference between Obama&#039;s oratory and Clinton is that while Obama&#039;s rhetoric has an intellectual appeal I think it lacks the ability to sum public policy in a conversational tone which appeals and touches voters no matter what their education or intellect level are.  

For example, look at Bill Clinton&#039;s speech at the Dem Convention this year -- the only guy who talked about productivity and the income differential and make it sound like your thoughtful neighbour stopping by and having a chat. To me that is political oratory at its best.  

This is not a critique of Obama but I believe that Clinton and Obama are very alike and we said so after his Iowa victory. 
http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/16557

But policies alone wont solve the problems that Obama highlighted in 1994 -- and even with the Clinton presidency it did not help those who did not want to help themselves or were caught up in Baltimore crime areas where the only hope was getting a street rep and being a gangster for many black teenagers.  How do you change that? And thats where personal responsibility comes in.

The funny thing is Colin Powell did grow up in a very bad and tough neighbourhood in NY and guess what the first Black national security advisor, the first Chairman of JCS, and the first Black Secretary of State and that too without an IVY league education. So personal responsibility and family made a huge difference. and its not really a race issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting though &#8212; Obama now thinks that the welfare reform bill which President Clinton signed was very good and delivered more than he thought it would. And especially on the specific issues he discussed above.  And also he talks about personal responsibility far more than before. He reminds me more and more of Bill Clinton running in 1992. </p>
<p>On Oratory &#8212; Obama is brilliant but there were quite a few who were equally good if not better. Reagan and Clinton in the US.  Blair in the UK definitely.    </p>
<p>If you look at oratory, Bill Clinton is actually very very good and was brilliant when he was running for President in 1992. However, the difference between Obama&#8217;s oratory and Clinton is that while Obama&#8217;s rhetoric has an intellectual appeal I think it lacks the ability to sum public policy in a conversational tone which appeals and touches voters no matter what their education or intellect level are.  </p>
<p>For example, look at Bill Clinton&#8217;s speech at the Dem Convention this year &#8212; the only guy who talked about productivity and the income differential and make it sound like your thoughtful neighbour stopping by and having a chat. To me that is political oratory at its best.  </p>
<p>This is not a critique of Obama but I believe that Clinton and Obama are very alike and we said so after his Iowa victory.<br />
<a href="http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/16557" rel="nofollow">http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/16557</a></p>
<p>But policies alone wont solve the problems that Obama highlighted in 1994 &#8212; and even with the Clinton presidency it did not help those who did not want to help themselves or were caught up in Baltimore crime areas where the only hope was getting a street rep and being a gangster for many black teenagers.  How do you change that? And thats where personal responsibility comes in.</p>
<p>The funny thing is Colin Powell did grow up in a very bad and tough neighbourhood in NY and guess what the first Black national security advisor, the first Chairman of JCS, and the first Black Secretary of State and that too without an IVY league education. So personal responsibility and family made a huge difference. and its not really a race issue.</p>
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		<title>By: sonia</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes he is a good orator indeed. like all politicians appear to be. oratory is what it is about. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes he is a good orator indeed. like all politicians appear to be. oratory is what it is about. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Amrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama really is a very accomplished orator.

&#039;It’s not the result of an intellectual deficit. It’s the result of a moral deficit.&#039;

Dayumn! XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama really is a very accomplished orator.</p>
<p>&#8216;It’s not the result of an intellectual deficit. It’s the result of a moral deficit.&#8217;</p>
<p>Dayumn! XD</p>
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