All this brandishing of the BNP as fascists is absolutely absurd. No fascists in their right mind desires a populace that is fully armed, it decentralizes deadly force.

You’ve got “American” stamped all over.

Oh dear.

Not this Anglo-Saxon/Norman/Celt, you cheeky bugger.

Oh, and my grandparents were old-school socialists and they knew a fucking blackshirt when they saw one.

Far more serious are developments in the British Peoples Party which have a much closer connection to the violent end of far right politics in this country.

A former member has just been given sixteen years for bomb making equipment and it was to this end of the racist spectrum that David Copeland was drawn. He was influenced enough to make and detonate three bombs.

The party is attracting the frustrated and angry elements with the far right which are fed with Griffin’s gradualism. They have a web site http://www.bpp.org.uk which is worth a look at and the party is run by Kevin Watmough who moderates http://www.skrewdriver.org.uk which is where nazis from all over the world talk to each other. Click the kalashnikov and go to guest book. Be warned, it’s strong stuff.

Also on this site is Red Watch which contains the details of thousands of anti fascists and actual incitement to violence. There is speculation that the security services allow it to stay up to monitor what the hard core are doing but they will have some explaining to do if someone takes the site literally and goes out to kill.

The BPP are having a demo against rap music in Leeds next month which should be interesting.

Obviously you did not have any problem giving your fingerprints to the US Government – I wonder then why are you so perturbed when the Security Forces of your own country are just doing their job?

I think Jai said it brilliantly.

“As Leon says and to comment this goes on all the while in Mosques all around the Country and they are seen to enforce it”

even from the BNP this is outlandish bullshit. Which mosques in the UK carries out military training?

Get lost and die is a little harsh, but i see i may have struck a nerve

As did the “Muslim” passport inspector, evidently. By the way, Monkey, how do you know he was a Muslim ?

We will temporarily ignore the fact that, even if he was indeed a Muslim, within the remit of his job he was fully within his rights to view you with suspicion if felt he had genuine grounds to do so as a result of you potentially posing some kind of danger to the public. I see that the irony of such an individual actually doing his job properly in this way is completely lost on you.

Assuming, of course, that the reason for you being offended was not actually the fact that the “Muslim” had the nerve and the insolence to look at you without showing you sufficient deference and submissiveness. We can’t have any uppity brown people getting ideas above their station and refusing to know their place, can we ?

Ravi, I agree. It’s a bit like the ‘PC gone mad stories’. But you know if you are going to have one type of story, then you might as well have the other. Balance is easier to achieve than truth (and sometimes even preferable).

“As I said before, we are better than this.”
I dunno. I think this story is fair game for PP. It’s not like that AB shit from a few weeks before. But as Sunny has made clear, PP is no longer about building bridges, post-racist politics, open and honest debate but about attack dogs at the expense of objectivity, culture wars, controlling the narrative, etc.
I guess it’s a bit like the party politicking we all know and love (Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz).

Againt im not a follower of the BNP but they do have some very good points

Even if we granted you that, that still leads to questions such as whether they are competent to lead this country forward and to grasp the complexities of the economy… Are they serious about security as well, considering a lot of their people have criminal records?

Not sure why Sunny is focused on this Daily Mirror article – it is written in the same trashy style as when they report about radical Islam: with a good dose of histrionics and sensationalism. They are basing their report on a single BNP page, have absolutely no clue what is being taught there. Are the activities illegal? What is being said? No answer to these questions, instead we get a lecture on Hitler youth which covers half of the article. And couldn’t they run a spellchecker? I mean, “exclsuive”?

As I said before, we are better than this.

Right up there with “Now, I’ve got lots of black friends, but…”

Just out of interest – what is the police and the intelligence services for? Or do you think the BNP can do a better job?

As Leon says and to comment this goes on all the while in Mosques all around the Country and they are seen to enforce it. At least the BNP would fight for their country and care about what happens to it.

Fuck off I never said or implied that. My point was bloody obvious imagine the outrage and freaking out (Mail readers frothing at the mouth) if this was a Muslim group that did this.

“well maybe its because when you return to your country you don’t get a Welcome but a second look by a muslim passport inspector who looks at you because im wearing a backpack, THE FUCKING CHEEK!!”

We must assume he asked the official concerned as to their religious preferences, rather than just relying on a visual assessment…and how dare such an official glance at the upstanding Mr. Monkey more than once.

I shudder to think what offence this must have caused…we should campaign to have the inspector removed from their post forthwith!

Against who? Other Britons?

Leon – you did… I don’t remember deleting it. I did flipside’s rubbish though.