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		<title>By: Kismet Hardy</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128701</link>
		<dc:creator>Kismet Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get stopped and searched on such a regular basis I&#039;ve started to actually carry drugs around with me just so I feel like the police are doing a job and not just picking on me for my ethnicity, which is far more depressing than being a junkie.

Oh and Ed, you&#039;re a prick. 24-carat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get stopped and searched on such a regular basis I&#8217;ve started to actually carry drugs around with me just so I feel like the police are doing a job and not just picking on me for my ethnicity, which is far more depressing than being a junkie.</p>
<p>Oh and Ed, you&#8217;re a prick. 24-carat.</p>
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		<title>By: Saqib Deshmukh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128551</link>
		<dc:creator>Saqib Deshmukh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No power without accountability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No power without accountability.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128549</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see why you think the police had a fiduciary responsibility towards Mr Ullah (were they managing his investment funds?), but I agree that all deaths in custody need to be investigated, as indeed they are as a matter of routine.  That&#039;s why the fact that the five officers are under investigation is not necessarily an indication of any suspicious circumstances or any failure on their part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see why you think the police had a fiduciary responsibility towards Mr Ullah (were they managing his investment funds?), but I agree that all deaths in custody need to be investigated, as indeed they are as a matter of routine.  That&#8217;s why the fact that the five officers are under investigation is not necessarily an indication of any suspicious circumstances or any failure on their part.</p>
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		<title>By: Shamit</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128546</link>
		<dc:creator>Shamit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a civilised society any death in police custody is unacceptable unless by an &quot;ACT OF GOD&quot;.  Once someone is placed in custody it is the responsibility of the police to ensure his/her safety and produce them in court.  And, in this case due to some unexplained circumstances the police failed to carry out their basic fudiciary responsibility and therefore it must be investigated thoroughly.  That makes it absolutely appropriate for Sunny to highlight.  

Secondly, many comments here seem to say oh he was a criminal therefore his death in custody was okay. I beg to differ.  We are a liberal democracy where even those accused of the most heinous crimes must be given the same protection under the law. Therefore, him being a criminal or not does not really have any bearing on this investigation.

This also does not by any means suggest that the police were at fault -- but we will only know when the investigation is complete and the truth unfolds. 

However, this matter of custodial death deserves our attention and that should be the case irrespective of race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a civilised society any death in police custody is unacceptable unless by an &#8220;ACT OF GOD&#8221;.  Once someone is placed in custody it is the responsibility of the police to ensure his/her safety and produce them in court.  And, in this case due to some unexplained circumstances the police failed to carry out their basic fudiciary responsibility and therefore it must be investigated thoroughly.  That makes it absolutely appropriate for Sunny to highlight.  </p>
<p>Secondly, many comments here seem to say oh he was a criminal therefore his death in custody was okay. I beg to differ.  We are a liberal democracy where even those accused of the most heinous crimes must be given the same protection under the law. Therefore, him being a criminal or not does not really have any bearing on this investigation.</p>
<p>This also does not by any means suggest that the police were at fault &#8212; but we will only know when the investigation is complete and the truth unfolds. </p>
<p>However, this matter of custodial death deserves our attention and that should be the case irrespective of race.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128534</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more officers involved in a restraint, the safer it is - the fact that there were five officers present makes it far &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; likely that an inapproprate restraint was used (I have some experience of this).

I&#039;m not convinced that there is anything at all suspicious about this death.  He was (as the family admits) a drug user, he swallowed a package of something-or-other during a legitimate police search, he died despite the efforts of the police, ambulance services and doctors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more officers involved in a restraint, the safer it is &#8211; the fact that there were five officers present makes it far <i>less</i> likely that an inapproprate restraint was used (I have some experience of this).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not convinced that there is anything at all suspicious about this death.  He was (as the family admits) a drug user, he swallowed a package of something-or-other during a legitimate police search, he died despite the efforts of the police, ambulance services and doctors.</p>
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		<title>By: Saqib Deshmukh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128531</link>
		<dc:creator>Saqib Deshmukh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We found out about the first unofficial autopsy after the IPCC report. There is new stuff coming out every day from the IPCC,the Police and from what the family are submitting to the solicitor. The Toxocology report is due out in October and obviously there will be an inquest so watch this space.

To the doubters: I am ready to accept that maybe that this was am &#039;accident&#039; and Officers panicked - but
are you ready to accept that Officers used excessive restraint and holds on him (there were five remember)which lead to his death?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We found out about the first unofficial autopsy after the IPCC report. There is new stuff coming out every day from the IPCC,the Police and from what the family are submitting to the solicitor. The Toxocology report is due out in October and obviously there will be an inquest so watch this space.</p>
<p>To the doubters: I am ready to accept that maybe that this was am &#8216;accident&#8217; and Officers panicked &#8211; but<br />
are you ready to accept that Officers used excessive restraint and holds on him (there were five remember)which lead to his death?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128527</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There were TWO autopsies carried out and only one states that he had an object in his windpipe and that was carried out by the Police without the family being notified and the IPCC being brought in. The second autopsy supervised by the IPCC was inconclusive.&quot;

That&#039;s not what the IPCC report says.  The first (inconclusive) postmortem, according to them, was on the 4th of July.  They had been notified by the police of the death at 00:30 that morning, four hours after the time of death.  The package was removed from the Mr Ullah&#039;s windpipe by doctors at the hospital (presumably as part of the efforts to keep him alive - doctors are quite reluctant to leave blockages in people&#039;s airways while trying to resuscitate them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There were TWO autopsies carried out and only one states that he had an object in his windpipe and that was carried out by the Police without the family being notified and the IPCC being brought in. The second autopsy supervised by the IPCC was inconclusive.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not what the IPCC report says.  The first (inconclusive) postmortem, according to them, was on the 4th of July.  They had been notified by the police of the death at 00:30 that morning, four hours after the time of death.  The package was removed from the Mr Ullah&#8217;s windpipe by doctors at the hospital (presumably as part of the efforts to keep him alive &#8211; doctors are quite reluctant to leave blockages in people&#8217;s airways while trying to resuscitate them).</p>
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		<title>By: Saqib Deshmukh</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128516</link>
		<dc:creator>Saqib Deshmukh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My name is Saqib and I am one of the organisers of the campaign and have been working with the family since Habib&#039;s death. First off can I thank Sunny for the link and being brave enough to challenge some of the views coming through. 

In terms of what has happened, we need to see this incident in the context of the many deaths in custody that have been taking place in this country over the last four decades since David Oluwales death in 1969. These deaths have disportionately effected African, African-Caribbean and Asian communities - see the following links: 

http://www.irr.org.uk/2002/november/ak000006.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Deaths_in_UK_Police_Custody

There are grave concerns about the how Habib was restrained and what is crucial is that there are two witnesses who were in the vehicle with him when he was stopped who are confirming that he was assaulted. There were TWO autopsies carried out and only one states that he had an object in his windpipe and that was carried out by the Police without the family being notified and the IPCC being brought in. The second autopsy supervised by the IPCC was inconclusive.  There are a number of incidents of Police interference with the case all the way through which are also being investigated. Additionally there is direct evidence of a previous attack on Habib by the Police five months earlier which has been brought to light and the fact remains that no Habib had no criminal record linked to drugs and to date there has been no confirmation of what was seized.

If you go research and look at the links and have worked like I have for more than two decades as a Youth worker with a range of communities you get to see the wider picture. There are too many deaths,too many questions and concerns and always too many excuses in return. In the words of Benjamin Zephaniah:

&#039;Why is it so official
That black people are so often killed
Without killers?&#039;

From &#039;What Stephen Lawrence has taught us&#039;

No justice no Peace!
Justice for Habib&#039;Paps&#039;Ullah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Saqib and I am one of the organisers of the campaign and have been working with the family since Habib&#8217;s death. First off can I thank Sunny for the link and being brave enough to challenge some of the views coming through. </p>
<p>In terms of what has happened, we need to see this incident in the context of the many deaths in custody that have been taking place in this country over the last four decades since David Oluwales death in 1969. These deaths have disportionately effected African, African-Caribbean and Asian communities &#8211; see the following links: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.irr.org.uk/2002/november/ak000006.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.irr.org.uk/2002/november/ak000006.html</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Deaths_in_UK_Police_Custody" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Deaths_in_UK_Police_Custody</a></p>
<p>There are grave concerns about the how Habib was restrained and what is crucial is that there are two witnesses who were in the vehicle with him when he was stopped who are confirming that he was assaulted. There were TWO autopsies carried out and only one states that he had an object in his windpipe and that was carried out by the Police without the family being notified and the IPCC being brought in. The second autopsy supervised by the IPCC was inconclusive.  There are a number of incidents of Police interference with the case all the way through which are also being investigated. Additionally there is direct evidence of a previous attack on Habib by the Police five months earlier which has been brought to light and the fact remains that no Habib had no criminal record linked to drugs and to date there has been no confirmation of what was seized.</p>
<p>If you go research and look at the links and have worked like I have for more than two decades as a Youth worker with a range of communities you get to see the wider picture. There are too many deaths,too many questions and concerns and always too many excuses in return. In the words of Benjamin Zephaniah:</p>
<p>&#8216;Why is it so official<br />
That black people are so often killed<br />
Without killers?&#8217;</p>
<p>From &#8216;What Stephen Lawrence has taught us&#8217;</p>
<p>No justice no Peace!<br />
Justice for Habib&#8217;Paps&#8217;Ullah</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Lomax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128497</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Lomax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny, you didn&#039;t but that&#039;s the implication in their campaign isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny, you didn&#8217;t but that&#8217;s the implication in their campaign isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128469</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said anything about racism?

I&#039;m highlighting a campaign - readers can make their own judgements. Now its down the verdict, isn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said anything about racism?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m highlighting a campaign &#8211; readers can make their own judgements. Now its down the verdict, isn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Lomax</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128458</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Lomax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...&quot;no evidence of injuries consistent with Mr Ullah being beaten or struck with a baton.&quot;

That&#039;s not going to go down well with the family. They want justice (in other words, a guilty verdict against the racist coppers who killed their little angel and set him up as a dealer and shoved the evil drugs down his throat and then ganged up to concoct a Zionist conspiracy. Oh, and some damages would be chufty too.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8221;no evidence of injuries consistent with Mr Ullah being beaten or struck with a baton.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not going to go down well with the family. They want justice (in other words, a guilty verdict against the racist coppers who killed their little angel and set him up as a dealer and shoved the evil drugs down his throat and then ganged up to concoct a Zionist conspiracy. Oh, and some damages would be chufty too.)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128443</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/death_of_habib_ullah.pdf

On Thursday 3 July 2008, three Thames Valley police officers in an unmarked police vehicle were in the Sharrow Vale area of High Wycombe. These officers observed a white Peugeot 106 being driven in the area and recognised that there was current intelligence on the occupants as being involved in the supply of Class A drugs. At 19:10 hours officers radioed for a marked police vehicle to attend.
The white Peugeot pulled into the private car park at Lee Court on Sharrow Vale where it parked. The unmarked police car pulled into the car park behind it and was joined almost immediately by a marked police car; the marked car arrived at 19:12 hours. The police officers identified themselves to the 3 occupants of the parked car.
Police officers proceeded to conduct a search, under the Misuse of Drugs Act, of the vehicle and the three occupants. Drug paraphernalia was seized from the footwell in the rear of the car. During the course of the search a man, now known to be Mr Habib Ullah (aged 39), was restrained by police officers, encountered breathing problems and an ambulance was called at 19:32 hours. An ambulance arrived at 19:51 hours and proceeded to administer medical assistance to Mr Ullah, after which he was transferred to High Wycombe General Hospital. At the hospital, doctors removed a package from Mr Ullahâ€™s windpipe, a second package was subsequently found on his person. Mr Ullahâ€™s health deteriorated and at 20:31 hours he was pronounced dead. Both of the packages have been sent away for forensic analysis
An initial post mortem took place on Friday 4 July 2008, the result of which was inconclusive and further medical tests are now being carried out, as well as the pathologist taking into consideration other evidence. However the pathologist was able to confirm that there was no evidence of injuries consistent with Mr Ullah being beaten or struck with a baton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/death_of_habib_ullah.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/death_of_habib_ullah.pdf</a></p>
<p>On Thursday 3 July 2008, three Thames Valley police officers in an unmarked police vehicle were in the Sharrow Vale area of High Wycombe. These officers observed a white Peugeot 106 being driven in the area and recognised that there was current intelligence on the occupants as being involved in the supply of Class A drugs. At 19:10 hours officers radioed for a marked police vehicle to attend.<br />
The white Peugeot pulled into the private car park at Lee Court on Sharrow Vale where it parked. The unmarked police car pulled into the car park behind it and was joined almost immediately by a marked police car; the marked car arrived at 19:12 hours. The police officers identified themselves to the 3 occupants of the parked car.<br />
Police officers proceeded to conduct a search, under the Misuse of Drugs Act, of the vehicle and the three occupants. Drug paraphernalia was seized from the footwell in the rear of the car. During the course of the search a man, now known to be Mr Habib Ullah (aged 39), was restrained by police officers, encountered breathing problems and an ambulance was called at 19:32 hours. An ambulance arrived at 19:51 hours and proceeded to administer medical assistance to Mr Ullah, after which he was transferred to High Wycombe General Hospital. At the hospital, doctors removed a package from Mr Ullahâ€™s windpipe, a second package was subsequently found on his person. Mr Ullahâ€™s health deteriorated and at 20:31 hours he was pronounced dead. Both of the packages have been sent away for forensic analysis<br />
An initial post mortem took place on Friday 4 July 2008, the result of which was inconclusive and further medical tests are now being carried out, as well as the pathologist taking into consideration other evidence. However the pathologist was able to confirm that there was no evidence of injuries consistent with Mr Ullah being beaten or struck with a baton.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128442</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making assumptions about a death without offering credible facts seems a little distasteful to me. As for worth, well that&#039;s a matter of opinion. 

I&#039;ll let you guess how much value I place on your esteemed utterances thus far. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making assumptions about a death without offering credible facts seems a little distasteful to me. As for worth, well that&#8217;s a matter of opinion. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let you guess how much value I place on your esteemed utterances thus far. <img src='http://www.pickledpolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bin Qasim</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128441</link>
		<dc:creator>Bin Qasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leon, maybe the people who are throwing around what you consider to be &#039;off key&#039; remarks are the ones who have actually &#039;read up&#039; on the case.

Do let us all know what you think once you get round to it.

Until then, your opinion is pretty much worthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon, maybe the people who are throwing around what you consider to be &#8216;off key&#8217; remarks are the ones who have actually &#8216;read up&#8217; on the case.</p>
<p>Do let us all know what you think once you get round to it.</p>
<p>Until then, your opinion is pretty much worthless.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128439</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because it&#039;s the first I&#039;ve heard of it and I&#039;ve not had the chance to read up on it yet (contrary to some people&#039;s perception I don&#039;t know everything that goes on!)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because it&#8217;s the first I&#8217;ve heard of it and I&#8217;ve not had the chance to read up on it yet (contrary to some people&#8217;s perception I don&#8217;t know everything that goes on!)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bin Qasim</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128438</link>
		<dc:creator>Bin Qasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why exactly are you not &#039;100%&#039; behind this campaign then?

(&#039;Off key&#039; attitudes aside).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why exactly are you not &#8217;100%&#8217; behind this campaign then?</p>
<p>(&#8216;Off key&#8217; attitudes aside).</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128435</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m one of the writers on here and while I&#039;m not 100% about supporting this campaign, I&#039;m more than a little dismayed by some of the off key attitudes on display here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m one of the writers on here and while I&#8217;m not 100% about supporting this campaign, I&#8217;m more than a little dismayed by some of the off key attitudes on display here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bin Qasim</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128430</link>
		<dc:creator>Bin Qasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Possibly, but the burden of proof is on them to show that they are actually suffering due to someone posting a comment on a blog.

Even then, a defence could be put forward on grounds of freedom of speech under European Law.

Of course, when it goes public that &#039;Pappu&#039; was a crack dealer/user, this will all become irrelevant and &#039;champions of Pappu&#039;, like this website, will be left with egg on their faces. 

I mean, seriously Leon, if this was your blog, you would surely (a) read the links that you post and (b), in this case, then come to the rational conclusion that this &#039;campaign&#039; is a joke? 

Or maybe you wouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibly, but the burden of proof is on them to show that they are actually suffering due to someone posting a comment on a blog.</p>
<p>Even then, a defence could be put forward on grounds of freedom of speech under European Law.</p>
<p>Of course, when it goes public that &#8216;Pappu&#8217; was a crack dealer/user, this will all become irrelevant and &#8216;champions of Pappu&#8217;, like this website, will be left with egg on their faces. </p>
<p>I mean, seriously Leon, if this was your blog, you would surely (a) read the links that you post and (b), in this case, then come to the rational conclusion that this &#8216;campaign&#8217; is a joke? </p>
<p>Or maybe you wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128425</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sunny, the dead canâ€™t sue for libel.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Can&#039;t relatives sue for the suffering they&#039;re enduring due to lies about their deceased family member?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sunny, the dead canâ€™t sue for libel.</p></blockquote>
<p>Can&#8217;t relatives sue for the suffering they&#8217;re enduring due to lies about their deceased family member?</p>
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		<title>By: platinum786</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2290#comment-128422</link>
		<dc:creator>platinum786</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if someone dropped it down his neck?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if someone dropped it down his neck?</p>
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