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		<title>By: wtc7</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8324</link>
		<dc:creator>wtc7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 08:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A blogger with a Brain - 
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2006/01/happy-feithster.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A blogger with a Brain &#8211;<br />
<a href="http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2006/01/happy-feithster.html" rel="nofollow">http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2006/01/happy-feithster.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8302</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 01:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smith - you are not much better then the people on the MPAC site!

I have just read that you think &quot;an awful lot of Zionists are mendacious and malicious, and much of the time I have spent working on this site has been aimed at defending Muslims from the nonsense they write&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smith &#8211; you are not much better then the people on the MPAC site!</p>
<p>I have just read that you think &#8220;an awful lot of Zionists are mendacious and malicious, and much of the time I have spent working on this site has been aimed at defending Muslims from the nonsense they write&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bikhair</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8276</link>
		<dc:creator>Bikhair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bananabrain,

&quot;...all NK do is perpetuate a myth that would allow them to be the dhimmi powerbrokers in the destruction of israel.&quot;

Would you be my dhimmi? I promise I&#039;ll treat you right and fulfil every responsibility I have towards you as my subject. I&#039;ll even defend you against those Christians who wish to have you turned into molten lava on judgement day. 

hur hur hur

b&#039;salam

Bikhair aka Ms. awesomely sarcastic and intriguing Yankee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bananabrain,</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;all NK do is perpetuate a myth that would allow them to be the dhimmi powerbrokers in the destruction of israel.&#8221;</p>
<p>Would you be my dhimmi? I promise I&#8217;ll treat you right and fulfil every responsibility I have towards you as my subject. I&#8217;ll even defend you against those Christians who wish to have you turned into molten lava on judgement day. </p>
<p>hur hur hur</p>
<p>b&#8217;salam</p>
<p>Bikhair aka Ms. awesomely sarcastic and intriguing Yankee.</p>
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		<title>By: bananabrain</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8239</link>
		<dc:creator>bananabrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 16:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooh - are we playing word association? my go:

cock

hehe.

yeah, mpac aren&#039;t exactly doing themselves or the rest of the community any favours - the only people they only help are those who think all muslims are nutters and are looking for loudmouthed nincompoops to make their case for them. mind you, that probably means that they&#039;re zionist agents provocateur anyway - so let me be the first to suggest that mpac is funded by the mossad!

hur hur hur.

b&#039;shalom

bananabrain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooh &#8211; are we playing word association? my go:</p>
<p>cock</p>
<p>hehe.</p>
<p>yeah, mpac aren&#8217;t exactly doing themselves or the rest of the community any favours &#8211; the only people they only help are those who think all muslims are nutters and are looking for loudmouthed nincompoops to make their case for them. mind you, that probably means that they&#8217;re zionist agents provocateur anyway &#8211; so let me be the first to suggest that mpac is funded by the mossad!</p>
<p>hur hur hur.</p>
<p>b&#8217;shalom</p>
<p>bananabrain</p>
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		<title>By: Siddharth</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8229</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MPAC - what a bunch of sorry ass losers. And they have the audacity to think that they represent anyone but themselves. I never come across such a collection of shameless, mealy-mouthed racist morons who can&#039;t express themselves for shit, since I had the unfortunate luck of inadvertently debating a group of BNP tossers.

I have urged them, on Yusuf Smith&#039;s blog, to remove &quot;Muslim&quot; from their name and to stop sullying the name of Muslims in Britain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MPAC &#8211; what a bunch of sorry ass losers. And they have the audacity to think that they represent anyone but themselves. I never come across such a collection of shameless, mealy-mouthed racist morons who can&#8217;t express themselves for shit, since I had the unfortunate luck of inadvertently debating a group of BNP tossers.</p>
<p>I have urged them, on Yusuf Smith&#8217;s blog, to remove &#8220;Muslim&#8221; from their name and to stop sullying the name of Muslims in Britain.</p>
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		<title>By: Col. Mustafa</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8225</link>
		<dc:creator>Col. Mustafa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would make a gr8 Mpac member if your not already one wtc7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would make a gr8 Mpac member if your not already one wtc7.</p>
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		<title>By: wtc7</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8210</link>
		<dc:creator>wtc7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bull</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bull</p>
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		<title>By: Col. Mustafa</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8209</link>
		<dc:creator>Col. Mustafa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 14:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is MPACs job just to blame and criticise then?
What is the purpose of MPAC, cos i don&#039;t know any muslims that approve them or even acknowledge them.

If thier views are supposed to be representing me then i feel as though i have to put them straight.

&quot;A decent Muslim community relations organisation needs to be set up, and quickly.&quot;

I know; i hope it happens soon.

Theres always one if not a few hundred conspiracy nuts around, that don&#039;t really get whats going on but just like to inform everyone for the billionth time that infact its the Zionists again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is MPACs job just to blame and criticise then?<br />
What is the purpose of MPAC, cos i don&#8217;t know any muslims that approve them or even acknowledge them.</p>
<p>If thier views are supposed to be representing me then i feel as though i have to put them straight.</p>
<p>&#8220;A decent Muslim community relations organisation needs to be set up, and quickly.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know; i hope it happens soon.</p>
<p>Theres always one if not a few hundred conspiracy nuts around, that don&#8217;t really get whats going on but just like to inform everyone for the billionth time that infact its the Zionists again.</p>
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		<title>By: wtc7</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8198</link>
		<dc:creator>wtc7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>liar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>liar</p>
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		<title>By: bananabrain</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8188</link>
		<dc:creator>bananabrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m not responding to the troll above, but can we please dispense with the notion that there are &quot;orthodox jews the world over&quot; who are united in their condemnation of zionism? the sect of neturei karta, as i have said elsewhere, are a tiny but high-profile extremist group who are shunned even by other ultra-orthodox sects. like all such groups they seek to present themselves as far more influential than they are and specialise in photo opportunities like this one: 

http://www.blacksandjews.com/Farr_&amp;_Jws.html

note: this site is run by the nation of islam (who are not, of course, muslims in the way that muslims would understand it) so note that in addition to being keen on NK, they also subscribe to all the 9/11, 7/7 conspiracy theories etc that you might expect. this alone ought to tell you something about the sort of people that think NK are the &quot;real jews&quot; - when there&#039;s only about 5000 of them, mostly living in jerusalem living off benefits (ie the israeli taxpayer) and handouts and not working or paying any taxes (don&#039;t get me started on how popular that makes them) - there&#039;s a quite good wiki site on them, but it has a lot about the other haredi sects, some of which are larger, anti-zionist, and more influential (like the satmarers) but are less headline-grabbing and never stooped to taking payouts from arafat or cosying up to the likes of ahmadinejad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta

the sooner muslims realise this is a con the better. all NK do is perpetuate a myth that would allow them to be the dhimmi powerbrokers in the destruction of israel. the rest of the jewish community regard them as beyond the pale, collaborators with antisemites.

b&#039;shalom

bananabrain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m not responding to the troll above, but can we please dispense with the notion that there are &#8220;orthodox jews the world over&#8221; who are united in their condemnation of zionism? the sect of neturei karta, as i have said elsewhere, are a tiny but high-profile extremist group who are shunned even by other ultra-orthodox sects. like all such groups they seek to present themselves as far more influential than they are and specialise in photo opportunities like this one: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.blacksandjews.com/Farr_&#038;_Jws.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.blacksandjews.com/Farr_&#038;_Jws.html</a></p>
<p>note: this site is run by the nation of islam (who are not, of course, muslims in the way that muslims would understand it) so note that in addition to being keen on NK, they also subscribe to all the 9/11, 7/7 conspiracy theories etc that you might expect. this alone ought to tell you something about the sort of people that think NK are the &#8220;real jews&#8221; &#8211; when there&#8217;s only about 5000 of them, mostly living in jerusalem living off benefits (ie the israeli taxpayer) and handouts and not working or paying any taxes (don&#8217;t get me started on how popular that makes them) &#8211; there&#8217;s a quite good wiki site on them, but it has a lot about the other haredi sects, some of which are larger, anti-zionist, and more influential (like the satmarers) but are less headline-grabbing and never stooped to taking payouts from arafat or cosying up to the likes of ahmadinejad.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta</a></p>
<p>the sooner muslims realise this is a con the better. all NK do is perpetuate a myth that would allow them to be the dhimmi powerbrokers in the destruction of israel. the rest of the jewish community regard them as beyond the pale, collaborators with antisemites.</p>
<p>b&#8217;shalom</p>
<p>bananabrain</p>
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		<title>By: wtc7</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8185</link>
		<dc:creator>wtc7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish you&#039;d make the distinction between Zionism and Judaism instead of pumping out all this bollox disinfo, it&#039;s getting boring. Why not discuss who blew up the WTC and who had foreknowledge?

&quot;Orthodox Jews the world over, are saddened by the hysteria which has greeted the recent stated desire of the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, to see a world free of Zionism. This desire is nothing more than a yearning for a better, more peaceful world. It is a hope that with the elimination of Zionism, Jews and Muslims will live in harmony as they have throughout the ages, in Palestine and throughout the world. &quot;

http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Statements/2005Oct28Iran.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish you&#8217;d make the distinction between Zionism and Judaism instead of pumping out all this bollox disinfo, it&#8217;s getting boring. Why not discuss who blew up the WTC and who had foreknowledge?</p>
<p>&#8220;Orthodox Jews the world over, are saddened by the hysteria which has greeted the recent stated desire of the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, to see a world free of Zionism. This desire is nothing more than a yearning for a better, more peaceful world. It is a hope that with the elimination of Zionism, Jews and Muslims will live in harmony as they have throughout the ages, in Palestine and throughout the world. &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Statements/2005Oct28Iran.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Statements/2005Oct28Iran.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8184</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only the  reasoning; the prose style takes me back to Trotskyist pamphlets from the 70&#039;s;

stomach turning...noxious vapour pollute all that he comes in contact with...lickspittle...Israeli appeasing gibberish...opportunistic traitors...

Couldn&#039;t find &#039;lackey&#039; or &#039;running dog&#039; in there, but I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll turn up in the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only the  reasoning; the prose style takes me back to Trotskyist pamphlets from the 70&#8242;s;</p>
<p>stomach turning&#8230;noxious vapour pollute all that he comes in contact with&#8230;lickspittle&#8230;Israeli appeasing gibberish&#8230;opportunistic traitors&#8230;</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t find &#8216;lackey&#8217; or &#8216;running dog&#8217; in there, but I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll turn up in the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Yusuf Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8173</link>
		<dc:creator>Yusuf Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 09:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benighted minds.  I have had some conflict with these people over the past few days (see my blog and &lt;a href=&quot;http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?t=5310&amp;page=3&amp;pp=20&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) and I have come to the conclusion that their reasoning ability is very limited indeed.  There is no point arguing with them as they will simply twist your words.  They need to be exposed so that the Muslims know that they are of not much use in protecting the Muslims from defamation and discrimination.  A decent Muslim community relations organisation needs to be set up, and quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benighted minds.  I have had some conflict with these people over the past few days (see my blog and <a href="http://forum.mpacuk.org/showthread.php?t=5310&amp;page=3&amp;pp=20" rel="nofollow">here</a>) and I have come to the conclusion that their reasoning ability is very limited indeed.  There is no point arguing with them as they will simply twist your words.  They need to be exposed so that the Muslims know that they are of not much use in protecting the Muslims from defamation and discrimination.  A decent Muslim community relations organisation needs to be set up, and quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Bikhair</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/227#comment-8170</link>
		<dc:creator>Bikhair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The kind of lovely hizbiyah that affects the Muslims. Dont you just love Westernizaiton and secularism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The kind of lovely hizbiyah that affects the Muslims. Dont you just love Westernizaiton and secularism?</p>
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