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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Musharraf made the correct decision to side with the US after 9/11 and drop the support (at least officially) given to the Taliban in neighbouring Afghanistan and to assist the US thereafter.&lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s a bit like saying &quot;President Bush was a force for peace and moderation in Iraq (at least officially)&quot;. 

Denying support of the Taliban &quot;at least officially&quot; is exactly the same as providing support to the Taliban (or Taliban-friendly tribal warlords) covertly, which is exactly what Musharraf did. 

Something Desi has already alluded to in #6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Musharraf made the correct decision to side with the US after 9/11 and drop the support (at least officially) given to the Taliban in neighbouring Afghanistan and to assist the US thereafter.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a bit like saying &#8220;President Bush was a force for peace and moderation in Iraq (at least officially)&#8221;. </p>
<p>Denying support of the Taliban &#8220;at least officially&#8221; is exactly the same as providing support to the Taliban (or Taliban-friendly tribal warlords) covertly, which is exactly what Musharraf did. </p>
<p>Something Desi has already alluded to in #6.</p>
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		<title>By: ashik</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gen. Musharraf did save his country from chaos. The economy was booming during the better part of his rule. Foreign investment and the foreign reserves recorded record highs and aid was flowing from the West and the Arab countries. 

Musharraf made the correct decision to side with the US after 9/11 and drop the support (at least officially) given to the Taliban in neighbouring Afghanistan and to assist the US thereafter. It is debatable whether a civilian regime could have made these drastic changes without the country breaking apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gen. Musharraf did save his country from chaos. The economy was booming during the better part of his rule. Foreign investment and the foreign reserves recorded record highs and aid was flowing from the West and the Arab countries. </p>
<p>Musharraf made the correct decision to side with the US after 9/11 and drop the support (at least officially) given to the Taliban in neighbouring Afghanistan and to assist the US thereafter. It is debatable whether a civilian regime could have made these drastic changes without the country breaking apart.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desi Italiana:

All I said was that you have made your point. I made no other suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desi Italiana:</p>
<p>All I said was that you have made your point. I made no other suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Desi Italiana, Michelle Malkin, and Ann Coulter all rolled into one</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2248#comment-127558</link>
		<dc:creator>Desi Italiana, Michelle Malkin, and Ann Coulter all rolled into one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leon:

Oh, it&#039;s about Sunny likening me to Michelle Malkin, and then asking me if I prefer to be compared to Ann Coulter.

Rumbold:

&quot;You have made your point with your username.&quot;

I&#039;d like to keep my handle as it is for the moment. Please do not interfere with my freedom of speech. Thank you.

And now that you&#039;ve suggested my removing half of my handle, I determined to keep it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon:</p>
<p>Oh, it&#8217;s about Sunny likening me to Michelle Malkin, and then asking me if I prefer to be compared to Ann Coulter.</p>
<p>Rumbold:</p>
<p>&#8220;You have made your point with your username.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to keep my handle as it is for the moment. Please do not interfere with my freedom of speech. Thank you.</p>
<p>And now that you&#8217;ve suggested my removing half of my handle, I determined to keep it.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desi, what in the world is your user name about?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desi, what in the world is your user name about?!</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desi:

You have made your point with your username.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desi:</p>
<p>You have made your point with your username.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Musharraf has not made money for himself or his cronies â€” and he did save Pakistan from being a failed state. And he is secular.&lt;/em&gt;

Not sure that opinion would stand up in court. The charges being brought against him include corruption and murder. Sure, he&#039;s not as corrupt as Zardari who comes across as someone who would sell his mother for the commission, but Musharraf is being pinned with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/26-Jun-2008/Musharraf-liquidated-Islamabad-farmland&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Musharraf has not made money for himself or his cronies â€” and he did save Pakistan from being a failed state. And he is secular.</em></p>
<p>Not sure that opinion would stand up in court. The charges being brought against him include corruption and murder. Sure, he&#8217;s not as corrupt as Zardari who comes across as someone who would sell his mother for the commission, but Musharraf is being pinned with <a href="http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/26-Jun-2008/Musharraf-liquidated-Islamabad-farmland" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Desi Italiana, Michelle Malkin, and Ann Coulter all rolled into one</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desi Italiana, Michelle Malkin, and Ann Coulter all rolled into one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shamit:

&quot;And he is secular.&quot;

I totally disagree that he was secular. He may have not been as obvious as Huq when it came to keeping religion in the state of affair, but he 1) definitely catered to Islamists, particularly when it came to women&#039;s rights; 2) propped up Islamists in the Balochistan region in order to discredit the secular Balochi movement and paint it as an Islamist movement; and 3) he still can&#039;t get Allah out of the affairs of Pakistan. When someone like Musharraf talks about &quot;Islamic democracy,&quot; you know they ain&#039;t talking about secularism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shamit:</p>
<p>&#8220;And he is secular.&#8221;</p>
<p>I totally disagree that he was secular. He may have not been as obvious as Huq when it came to keeping religion in the state of affair, but he 1) definitely catered to Islamists, particularly when it came to women&#8217;s rights; 2) propped up Islamists in the Balochistan region in order to discredit the secular Balochi movement and paint it as an Islamist movement; and 3) he still can&#8217;t get Allah out of the affairs of Pakistan. When someone like Musharraf talks about &#8220;Islamic democracy,&#8221; you know they ain&#8217;t talking about secularism.</p>
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		<title>By: Desi Italiana, Michelle Malkin, and Ann Coulter all rolled into one, while referring to the UN report on women two times</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2248#comment-127519</link>
		<dc:creator>Desi Italiana, Michelle Malkin, and Ann Coulter all rolled into one, while referring to the UN report on women two times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nawaz Sharif and Asif Zardari, leaders of the opposition, no longer have a despotic enemy in common to rail against which means now they oppose each other.&quot;

Sage words, for this bit of news came out:

&quot;Sharif threatens to pull out of pakistan coalition&quot;:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/world/asia/20pstan.html?hp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nawaz Sharif and Asif Zardari, leaders of the opposition, no longer have a despotic enemy in common to rail against which means now they oppose each other.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sage words, for this bit of news came out:</p>
<p>&#8220;Sharif threatens to pull out of pakistan coalition&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/world/asia/20pstan.html?hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/world/asia/20pstan.html?hp</a></p>
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		<title>By: platinum786</title>
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		<dc:creator>platinum786</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^ The last one just did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^ The last one just did.</p>
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		<title>By: shariq</title>
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		<dc:creator>shariq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed with Sid. Musharraf did some good stuff, but the inherent problem with dictators is that there is no mechanism for telling them when there time is up. The democrats are far from perfect but its telling that no elected parliament has ever managed to stay 5 years and be voted out by the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with Sid. Musharraf did some good stuff, but the inherent problem with dictators is that there is no mechanism for telling them when there time is up. The democrats are far from perfect but its telling that no elected parliament has ever managed to stay 5 years and be voted out by the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Shamit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shamit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sid

Musharraf has not made money for himself or his cronies -- and he did save Pakistan from being a failed state. And he is secular.

When Nawaz sharif was last PM, remmebr the scenes where PML goons went and hit the supreme court justices.

platinum786 has got it spot on.

btw, where did you get the info with evidence that Musharraf is corrupt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sid</p>
<p>Musharraf has not made money for himself or his cronies &#8212; and he did save Pakistan from being a failed state. And he is secular.</p>
<p>When Nawaz sharif was last PM, remmebr the scenes where PML goons went and hit the supreme court justices.</p>
<p>platinum786 has got it spot on.</p>
<p>btw, where did you get the info with evidence that Musharraf is corrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: platinum786</title>
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		<dc:creator>platinum786</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time will prove me right, but here goes anyway. The problem we have in Pakistan is neither politician nor General support the institutes. The institutes are trodden on and put aside time and time again. 

We also don&#039;t have representative democracy we have feudal democracy, in a society where people have to wait for the land owner to return and give permission before they can bury their dead, do you think the same people are free to vote as they choose? 

In Pakistan you have a choice, you either back the corrupt politicians who will loot the country and hope that they remember you when they get to the top, or you back the military man who will stop the plundering, but will do nothing to fix the causes of it. 

We have the option that takes us backwards (politicians), or the one that refuses to take us forwards (military).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time will prove me right, but here goes anyway. The problem we have in Pakistan is neither politician nor General support the institutes. The institutes are trodden on and put aside time and time again. </p>
<p>We also don&#8217;t have representative democracy we have feudal democracy, in a society where people have to wait for the land owner to return and give permission before they can bury their dead, do you think the same people are free to vote as they choose? </p>
<p>In Pakistan you have a choice, you either back the corrupt politicians who will loot the country and hope that they remember you when they get to the top, or you back the military man who will stop the plundering, but will do nothing to fix the causes of it. </p>
<p>We have the option that takes us backwards (politicians), or the one that refuses to take us forwards (military).</p>
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