Sun airbrushes out black man


by Sunny
24th July, 2008 at 3:10 pm    

What do you do when you don’t like the look of a rasta when next to the strapping young prince? You use photophop!. hat-tip Jim Jay.


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  1. Mondongo

    @dieguez_ @Viscurt Y otra más, miren que monono The Sun: http://t.co/sa2ZFcV. ¿Sigue siendo lo mismo? ¿Es apenas un recorte inocente?




  1. Jim Jay — on 24th July, 2008 at 3:35 pm  

    I particualrly like the way they left the poor guy’s knee in

  2. persephone — on 24th July, 2008 at 3:43 pm  

    could the reason for the photo shopping be a non -political reason such as space? I am no fan of the Sun but the 2nd picture is cropped at the top but shows there is some copy which the rasta’s mans head would have obscured.

  3. Dalbir — on 24th July, 2008 at 4:17 pm  

    Babylon system and ting!

  4. Ravi Naik — on 24th July, 2008 at 4:35 pm  

    What do you do when you don’t like the look of a rasta when next to the strapping young prince? You use photophop!.

    Makes no sense. If that was the case, they would remove the black guy who is actually seated next to the Prince… or they would just not put the damn picture in the first place.

    What is more plausible is that someone in the Sun just discovered Photoshop and decided to make room for the big headline, which otherwise would be obscured by the rasta.

  5. Kulvinder — on 24th July, 2008 at 4:40 pm  

    I’m going mad; i was staring at the metro picture for a good 10 minutes trying to work out what that patch was on the photoshopped man’s shoulder when i realised it was the engine!

  6. Leon — on 24th July, 2008 at 5:16 pm  

    Why did they cut one Rasta but leave the other in?!

  7. halima — on 24th July, 2008 at 6:02 pm  

    yeah, that’s what I wanted to ask?

    It’s so bad I can’t even believe it’s true

    but then I have been watching television ads today about men’s skin whitenening cream so anything is believable..

  8. persephone — on 24th July, 2008 at 6:09 pm  

    It is ironic that those with tans buy the whitening creams and those without a tan buy tanning lotion. The grass is always greener on the other side

  9. Ravi Naik — on 24th July, 2008 at 7:15 pm  

    It is ironic that those with tans buy the whitening creams and those without a tan buy tanning lotion. The grass is always greener on the other side

    Not really ironic, as both groups will achieve the same colour, no? What I find so repulsive about men and women’s lightning cream ads is the idea that your success is dependent on superficial traits. Even if there was a grain of truth in it, that’s hardly the message you want to propagate to a generation of Indians.

  10. Amrit — on 24th July, 2008 at 11:32 pm  

    @ Ravi:

    ‘Even if there was a grain of truth in it, that’s hardly the message you want to propagate to a generation of Indians.’

    Amen to that. Something that people maybe don’t consider is that it’s bad for light- and dark-skinned people both. In India, for example, I don’t think there’s that actually that many very-fair-skinned people outside of Bollywood (though I don’t know for certain). When I was there with my family, I got a lot of very hostile stares from other women around my age and this creepy admiration from older women who saw my skin colour as a quality and something to aspire to. Men just gawked at me like I was a piece of meat (nothing new there). Very depressing. Let’s have more of the likes of Bipasha and Mallika, and go even darker than that if you please!

    The Sun is the Sun… and, as pointed out already by JimJay, they couldn’t even P-shop him out properly! Hah. Or maybe they kept his knee so that he wouldn’t be completely out of the picture?

    I agree with all y’all who put it down to space…

  11. Desi Italiana — on 25th July, 2008 at 2:19 am  

    “I got a lot of very hostile stares from other women around my age and this creepy admiration from older women who saw my skin colour as a quality and something to aspire to. Men just gawked at me like I was a piece of meat (nothing new there).”

    1. Did the women tell you that they admired you because of your fair skin? Or are you supposing?

    2. How do you know that men were gawking at you as if you were a piece of meat because of your fair skin?

  12. salim — on 25th July, 2008 at 10:12 am  

    mountain out off a molehill…typical pp reaction..

    theres still the other black guy in the pic!..its just a simple graphic design decision..nothing sinister..

    typical of this site…

  13. Amrit — on 25th July, 2008 at 12:33 pm  

    @ Desi Italiana:

    ’1. Did the women tell you that they admired you because of your fair skin? Or are you supposing?

    2. How do you know that men were gawking at you as if you were a piece of meat because of your fair skin?’

    I’m going to answer in reverse:

    2) I don’t, that’s why I said ‘nothing new there’. I think it was most likely to be that though, because I got looks even when I was wearing a suit.

    1) I’m not supposing, I heard people talk about me once they thought I was out of earshot.

    All I’m saying is that the whole skin-lightening thing is completely unhealthy. For instance, my mother does this thing sometimes where she goes ‘oh well, at least when the time comes for you to get married, you’re fair-skinned so it should be that bit easier.’

    That’s awful. I’m not any better than anyone else; my skin colour shouldn’t be an extra asset to me, or considered to be a quality by anyone.

    Of course, it’s not just in the Indian community – it’s among Jamaicans too (at the very least).

    OK, I’m going to stop going off-topic now!

  14. halima — on 25th July, 2008 at 1:00 pm  

    And all this time we are trying to be whiter in our skin tone – the BNP must be laughing

    honestly – half the time we castigate racists for being racists

    and the non-white world then goes around trying to be white

    Now that’s gotta be an irony if there ever was one .

    Talk about internalising racial inferior complexity or what .

  15. billaricaydickey — on 25th July, 2008 at 2:42 pm  

    Speaking as a Yachtmaster Ocean and someone who was taught the craft of beach assaults in outboard powered inflatables in the 1960s I found the photo interesting.

    It is clear that it is not racism but, as has been said, but simply cropping to get a phot to get a caption in. Look at the lack of wash to the stern of the cropped vessel. An engine at the speed this vessel is going throws up the kind of wake seen in the first photo.

    My question is what are this lot doing in a boat skippered and crewed by Rastas? Nelson should be turning in his grave.

    One of the great things about this site is how it wanders around but usually has a good discussion. I was interested in the whole thing about complexion and could make a pun about how some of the people posting here have exactly one of those about the issue.

    I only became aware of the issue when, during the 1970s, an old friend of mine, the Indian writer and film maker Mala Sen, used to get very angry about ads in the Indian press for “wheat complexioned” brides!

    As a blue eyed celt all I wanted to do was get a tan and there were many ways of doing that including chemicals.

    What Sunny should be doing is taking up with some of the Asian press in this country why they carry ads for creams that, allegedly are used for skin conditions, but as a by product lighten the skin.

    More restaurants going bust in Brick Lane Halima, and still people are lining up to buy them!

  16. Leon — on 25th July, 2008 at 3:42 pm  

    What Sunny should be doing is taking up with some of the Asian press in this country why they carry ads for creams that, allegedly are used for skin conditions, but as a by product lighten the skin.

    If you knew anything about PP or ever bothered to use the search function you’d find PP have covered that more than once and been critical of it.

  17. billaricaydicky — on 25th July, 2008 at 5:23 pm  

    Leon,

    Once again little lad, you will not address what I have written.

    Get grip, as we used to say in the British Army. I am speaking of real life, tu, batcha lokh, are full of shit.

  18. halima — on 25th July, 2008 at 6:49 pm  

    I think the corporate social responsibility agenda shoudl start attacking Nivea, Clinique and the big cosmetics for developing products for Asian markets for skin whitenening.

    If I had the time I would campaign on this. Emerging Asia is a huge market for these companies and they should be named and shamed – like on animal testing.

  19. persephone — on 25th July, 2008 at 9:18 pm  

    @ 18 Has emerging Asia got a CSR agenda as developed as in Europe? I tried sourcing local print production that used recyled materials in Pakistan but was informed that green issues had not hit there yet.

  20. halima — on 26th July, 2008 at 6:17 am  

    Perhaps green issues have hit Asia in a different way… but there is that problem of framing ‘green’ issues in the East in a political way – developing countries versus developed countries and who takes the burden of responsibility now – and many would say this month’s G8 conclusions on climate change got stuck on this point again.

    But isolating CSR for Asia.

    Small and medium companies in any country don’t usually engage as well with CSR – but that’s where the exploitations takes place and is below the rador of public scrutinity.

    However the larger companies do have CSR awareness and their headquarters are based in NY, Paris etc, and so they can be named and shamed into positive behaviour which then has a rippled effect back in Mumbia and Delhi etc. That’s where we need to campaign. Nike for example, after yrs of less effective practice, now have a great CSR model for supporting girls’ education in Africa and Asia. And yes, I know Nike might not be popular to every body – but when companies do turn around a little bit, credit needs to be given.

  21. Desi Italiana — on 26th July, 2008 at 7:44 am  

    Persephone:

    “@ 18 Has emerging Asia got a CSR agenda as developed as in Europe?”

    CSR as practiced in South Asia right now (namely, Afghanistan, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh)is more concerned with social agendas rather than environmental. Admittedly, few companies do it, but the ones that do focus on schools, employing women, paying sufficient wages, running soup kitchens for street children, etc (Roshan in Afghanistan claims to do all of this).

    In terms of CSR in Europe and North America, based on my knowledge and research, much of it is ‘greenwashing’ and good for PR. It doesn’t necessarily mean that they are thinking about optimizing social, economic, and environmental outcomes as much as they are with financial profits.

  22. Desi Italiana — on 26th July, 2008 at 7:46 am  

    “And yes, I know Nike might not be popular to every body – but when companies do turn around a little bit, credit needs to be given.”

    That’s in reaction to unfavorable public opinion, though… but I guess a little bit counts, though I always think that we don’t expect enough from companies that make their profits off of the labor and lives of others who never get compensated enough, especially in the poor countries (not just South Asia, but Latin America, Eastern Europe, etc).

  23. halima — on 26th July, 2008 at 8:07 am  

    Did you have Shell in mind????

  24. halima — on 26th July, 2008 at 8:09 am  

    Or indeed Jeffrey Sachs…

  25. persephone — on 26th July, 2008 at 11:36 am  

    yes agree even having a CSR policy does not mean it actually happens as in case of Primark who recently had to sack several suppliers in India who were using child labour

  26. davebones — on 27th July, 2008 at 4:17 am  

    ha ha ha that is fantastic! The Sun owe me money.

  27. billaricaydickey — on 28th July, 2008 at 1:46 pm  

    I see Leon has gone quiet again. Nothing to do with the main discussion hear but there is an interesting main article in the new edition of Searchlight magazine. http://www.searchlightmagazine.com. It is about two people who have been convicted of a variety of racially motivated offences having legged it to the states.

    What is of interest here is that it has taken years of campaigning by Searchlight and papers like Eastern Eye to actually get the authorities to act. What we now need to do is get the remaining fascist site shut down. Look at http://www.skrewdriver.net and then get onto MPs, “community leaders” etc to demand that the Leeds based Nazi Kevin Whatmough is arrested.

    Sites like these are radicalising a generation of disaffected young white men who might end up like David Copeland exploding bombs.

    Leon, you would be better using your youthfull energies on something like this instead of making a fool of yourself having a go at me. I’m not only white skinned but thick skinned as well. I suppose I could also be thick headed but that might come from having it bashed so much by nazis over the years!

  28. Leon — on 28th July, 2008 at 2:15 pm  

    Billy d: I’m one of the admin on here and as such it means moderating from time to time; I take people to task if they look like they’re trolling, are already banned and have returned, try to post repeated lies or misinformation about PP. You have done the latter above which I called you on.

    In future please use the search facility before accusing us of not taking an issue seriously.

  29. fug — on 28th July, 2008 at 2:52 pm  

    shades of the iranian missile launch fudge

  30. billaricaydickey — on 29th July, 2008 at 12:38 pm  

    Leon,

    Try as I might I cannot see how I have fallen into any of the above categories. As there was no category for the article about the two nazis who have now it seems been refused political status in America I simply stuck it up on the last posting that I was invovled in.

    Just thought that this might have been of interest to politically minded Asians concerned about racism and the the state of race relations in Britain. The judgements and sentence will be important as they will effect, and in some way determine, what is incitement to racial hatred in th UK.

    I fully expect to see a number of black and Asian groups having to moderate their anti white stances or lose public funding and risk prosecution. One for the learned friends I think!

  31. billaricaydickey — on 3rd August, 2008 at 5:24 pm  

    Everyone has gone quiet I see. Leon bhoy, you am got de big mout, in it? I do hope I have been able to communicate with you in meaningful way. Innit

  32. Indrak — on 3rd August, 2008 at 7:02 pm  

    #31:
    there’s a big gap between what you think of yourself and what you are. You claim to have a thick skin yet crave admiration through consistent self-referencing.

    And it’s not attractive (certainly by way of your supposed parodic attempts) to fail to respond meaningfully to some, whilst expecting others to when you think it suits you.

  33. Jnr — on 13th August, 2008 at 3:25 pm  

    Graphic design decision… just removed him to make the picture shorter.

    http://www.arguewithme.co.uk

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