I’m interested in something. Why isn’t there a focus on solving the problem of Glasgow and the youths engaged in violence there?Don’t we care about Glasgow?

It is very likely that people are trying to tackle the problem of violence in Glasgow.

Of course, tabloids and blogs don’t make noise because it does not contain: (a) non-whites, (b) racists, (c) muslims, (d) islamophobes. So just to be clear, just because there is no noise, does not mean that people are not tackling it, or the problem is not being solved… in fact no noise just makes it easier. Because those doing the noise are not interested in solving the problem.

Personally, I care more about solving the problem in London than in Glasgow.

35)”blacks are barely civilised, and are engaged in a campaign of tribal violence, and it is part of the slow destruction of Britain in a morass of the coons and pakis”

39)”these phrases, in common usage amongst white people…”

Not among any white people I’ve ever met.

Where do you think these phrases are in ‘common usage’???

Except on Pickled Politics of course, as you have now used them.

When these deaths happens it’s a news headline to most but for people I know and the area I live in it’s younger brothers of guys I grew up with, or friends of my sisters, or friends of friends of my family…

Don’t we care about Glasgow?

see Joolz epitomises why the liberal-left is sometimes driven to distraction and (racial) politics is less about finding solutions than about controlling the narrative. But people like Joolz are an irrelevant if offensive inconvenience. That he doesn’t know it is not my problem. When push comes to shove, people like me will always side with the liberal left. The extreme (white) right is yesterday’s story. But if I can help avoid a polarised dullards’ debate then I will.

Absolutely. The goal is to find a solution to minimise knife and street crime. If this is a problem that affects urban black youth – specially as victims – does anyone believe that it is in the best interest for the affected communities to be saying that the problem is nothing more than a racist conspiracy to demonise blacks?

the word “all” could be done away with here, don’t you think? It’s not helpful.

I’d also say Leon that quite a lot of black people think and say the afro-caribbean community has a problem with gang-related youth violence. I know that from personal experience as well as from articles. For example, I was just chatting about half an hour ago to a very close mate who is a bus driver. He loves the 168 from Hampstead Heath to the Old Kent Road, but when he’s asked to do the 243 route down the A10 he frets. Just the other day some ragga — his word — pretended to shoot him because he refused to open the doors between stops in Dalston. A minor thing you might think, but he is a public servant and faces that and worst on a frequent basis. As the son of two Jamaican parents he can’t be racist (towards blacks) can he? No.

Ok, if you want to balance it out the white working class in some communities have a problem with youth drinking and drink related violence. Would that make you feel better?

Common sense was always a life saver silly! Where do you think the words “street wise” come from? I would consider myself to be very streetwise. Hence my urban antenna has told me to wear my contact lenses every day and I’ve dispensed with my glasses. When the time comes I want to be ready. Ya get me?

The extreme (white) right is yesterday’s story

Except where they gain large electoral support, foment racial hatred, engage in extremist activity, poison the public debate, and encourage violence in small towns and suburbs across Britain.

Apart from that, they’re irrelevant.

Nice one, El Cid.

Common sense is a now a life saver if you ask me. Know your manor, which people to avoid socially being involved in and which places to not drink or go clubbing in and you’ve a high chance of staying out of trouble.

The break down of community has a part to play. If the children aren’t alright then it’s the responsibility of all adults to sort. The idea that this is all caused by black people, aside from being breathtakingly racist, isn’t true. The area’s I travel in and live in have kids from different backgrounds hanging out and causing trouble. It’s the urban life of the inner cities that’s created this culture of despair not some people from Africa or the Caribbean.

mixtogether, see Joolz epitomises why the liberal-left is sometimes driven to distraction and politics is less about finding solutions than about controlling the narrative.

Psychobabble.

But people like Joolz are an irrelevant if offensive inconvenience. That he doesn’t know it is not my problem

Joolz is a ‘she’. And you saying someone is irrelevant or offensive doesn’t make them so, just because you disagree with what they say.

Here look, El Cid, I think you’re irrelevant and an offensive inconvenience. You see, I can do it too. I even stick my tongue out and blow a raspberry at you. The argument has not advanced, you are still here.

And Joolz please don’t use those racist slurs, especially without quote marks.

Please don’t tell me what to do. Most people reading my words are able to understand the gravity of these phrases, in common usage amongst white people, and relevant to the points I was making, in reference to ‘the far-right’, without being instructed as if they are morons, so please don’t patronise them either.

The blindingly obvious is the simple fact that most of the victims and perpetrators in the current spree are black.

It’s impossible to debate with someone who stares into the face of strawman for so long he starts to sound like a scarecrow himself. If you think that’s the righteousness of the ‘far-right’ you’re depraved. It’s obvious that asking you to read the points I made in my above posts again to understand this won’t have much effect, but I can refer you to them again for protocol’s sake.

“Which of course leaves the far right in the privileged position of being able to state the blindingly obvious and look like the only ones telling the truth.”

The blindingly obvious is the simple fact that most of the victims and perpetrators in the current spree are black.

Yet it seems that the left has a problem admitting that simple fact in public.

And Joolz please don’t use those racist slurs, especially without quote marks.

Which of course leaves the far right in the privileged position of being able to state the blindingly obvious and look like the only ones telling the truth.

What is the blindingly obvious truth that the far right states? That black people are inherently prone to violence and crime? If you actually spend time with far right people that’s the gist of it all, something you seem to believe is a ‘blindingly obvious’ truth.

The far right does not discuss the sociological, economic or cultural issues at play in a complex web of factors that lead to issues like this arising. They say it’s because blacks are barely civilised, and are engaged in a campaign of tribal violence, and it is part of the slow destruction of Britain in a morass of the coons and pakis. They are simpletons, and it seems you rather admire their ‘bluntness’. If you think this isn’t being debated by the Left and people in the black community you’re.

And if you can’t tell the difference between this and the discourse of the ‘far-right’, you are a half wit.

“inner city black-on-black crime, always present, now gets covered in full detail for the first time”

I’m guessing you haven’t grown up in London. If you had you would know that the new feature now is the organised gang structures and street codes imported from the US.

Those are new, they have not been ‘always present’.

Newsflash – ‘Today in the news, a man walking down the street in London was not stabbed.’

But seriously, thinking outside the box, is all these scare mongering of minor stuff a good sign. Does it mean that we have to fret about something and there is nothing major of concern. Alas, no – unemployment, falling real wages, oil, food, and on and on and on. They’ll just keep complaining.

Maybe the relative suffering makes us feel better off…it must be why people watch depressing programmes like Eastenders.

The best news these days is either local news or the entertainment slot – at least it’s happy stuff.

Any facts that doesn’t match?