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	<title>Comments on: Female foeticide getting worse in North-West India</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Worstall</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2087#comment-122261</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, don&#039;t think I&#039;m confused about rape and intercourse. The latter is where both (or all) parties consent. The former is when one or more do not.
How this helps us distinguish between foeticide and abortion I&#039;m not sure: I&#039;ve yet to see any consent forms signed off by any foetus subject to either procedure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m confused about rape and intercourse. The latter is where both (or all) parties consent. The former is when one or more do not.<br />
How this helps us distinguish between foeticide and abortion I&#8217;m not sure: I&#8217;ve yet to see any consent forms signed off by any foetus subject to either procedure.</p>
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		<title>By: Indrak</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2087#comment-122246</link>
		<dc:creator>Indrak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12: is it like the monkey that can&#039;t see when it covers its eyes?

are you confused about rape and intercourse also?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12: is it like the monkey that can&#8217;t see when it covers its eyes?</p>
<p>are you confused about rape and intercourse also?</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2087#comment-122244</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its one of those irregular verbs:

I terminated an unplanned pregnancy
You had an abortion
She committed foeticide

You are right though, in that foeticide is used when we are critical of the abortion, especially when girls are aborted for being girls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its one of those irregular verbs:</p>
<p>I terminated an unplanned pregnancy<br />
You had an abortion<br />
She committed foeticide</p>
<p>You are right though, in that foeticide is used when we are critical of the abortion, especially when girls are aborted for being girls.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Worstall</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2087#comment-122243</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Worstall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone enlighten this rather confused blogger?
When is it &quot;foeticide&quot; (something I assume is used as a phrase of disapproval) and when is it &quot;abortion&quot; (which tends around here to be argued as being a right)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone enlighten this rather confused blogger?<br />
When is it &#8220;foeticide&#8221; (something I assume is used as a phrase of disapproval) and when is it &#8220;abortion&#8221; (which tends around here to be argued as being a right)?</p>
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		<title>By: halima</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2087#comment-122234</link>
		<dc:creator>halima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure .. demographics by itself doesn&#039;t produce growth. People talk about a demographic window of opportunity -meaning governments need to invest in human capital ( health and education) so the growing number of young people can also be productive to take advantage of the demographic window. No point having unproductive youths that can&#039;t actually work and contribute to growth. 

China has invested in education as have many south east asian neighbours.  We can&#039;t say the same for South Asia - the potential for brilliant engineers etc can only be realised if you can invest in a universal education system for the country as a whole.  India still has some way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure .. demographics by itself doesn&#8217;t produce growth. People talk about a demographic window of opportunity -meaning governments need to invest in human capital ( health and education) so the growing number of young people can also be productive to take advantage of the demographic window. No point having unproductive youths that can&#8217;t actually work and contribute to growth. </p>
<p>China has invested in education as have many south east asian neighbours.  We can&#8217;t say the same for South Asia &#8211; the potential for brilliant engineers etc can only be realised if you can invest in a universal education system for the country as a whole.  India still has some way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: digitalcntrl</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2087#comment-122221</link>
		<dc:creator>digitalcntrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Their comparative advantage lies not in their population swell but in the fact that the Indians have brilliant scientists, medics, Information Technology experts and world-class entrepreneurs amongst them.

Demographics play a much bigger part in the Chinese economic growth â€˜miracleâ€™ which, before long, will be exposed and falter as per their â€˜One Childâ€™ policy- no kids today means no one to manufacture our goods and export them to us tomorrow.&quot;

Careful there Nav, your beginning to sound like my grandpa, an ardent nationalist from the old country : )

That being said may Chinese are also pretty brilliant, one only needs to see any university in the US where the graduate depts of engineering are full of FOB Chinese and Indians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Their comparative advantage lies not in their population swell but in the fact that the Indians have brilliant scientists, medics, Information Technology experts and world-class entrepreneurs amongst them.</p>
<p>Demographics play a much bigger part in the Chinese economic growth â€˜miracleâ€™ which, before long, will be exposed and falter as per their â€˜One Childâ€™ policy- no kids today means no one to manufacture our goods and export them to us tomorrow.&#8221;</p>
<p>Careful there Nav, your beginning to sound like my grandpa, an ardent nationalist from the old country : )</p>
<p>That being said may Chinese are also pretty brilliant, one only needs to see any university in the US where the graduate depts of engineering are full of FOB Chinese and Indians.</p>
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		<title>By: Nav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the population bulge /growing youth population in South Asia is the regionâ€™s biggest asset - without it, they may not be able to compete in the war of talent which economists say is where globalisation is at today.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Erroneous.

Their comparative advantage lies not in their population swell but in the fact that the Indians have brilliant scientists, medics, Information Technology experts and world-class entrepreneurs amongst them.

Demographics play a much bigger part in the Chinese economic growth &#039;miracle&#039; which, before long, will be exposed and falter as per their &#039;One Child&#039; policy- no kids today means no one to manufacture our goods and export them to us tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the population bulge /growing youth population in South Asia is the regionâ€™s biggest asset &#8211; without it, they may not be able to compete in the war of talent which economists say is where globalisation is at today.</p></blockquote>
<p>Erroneous.</p>
<p>Their comparative advantage lies not in their population swell but in the fact that the Indians have brilliant scientists, medics, Information Technology experts and world-class entrepreneurs amongst them.</p>
<p>Demographics play a much bigger part in the Chinese economic growth &#8216;miracle&#8217; which, before long, will be exposed and falter as per their &#8216;One Child&#8217; policy- no kids today means no one to manufacture our goods and export them to us tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Anas</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think people have thought this whole abortion of female foetuses thing through. If the point is that male children are superior because they carry on the family name then, given it&#039;s 300 girls to 1000 boys, the chances are your son is gonna struggle to find the bride that figures so heavily in the equation. Do the maths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think people have thought this whole abortion of female foetuses thing through. If the point is that male children are superior because they carry on the family name then, given it&#8217;s 300 girls to 1000 boys, the chances are your son is gonna struggle to find the bride that figures so heavily in the equation. Do the maths.</p>
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		<title>By: digitalcntrl</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2087#comment-122213</link>
		<dc:creator>digitalcntrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Full report here. It is said that already China is facing an aging population as a result of its one-child policy. Will the same thing happen in India? That the two countries with the largest populations should get old before they get rich is a frightening prospect in economic terms, apart from anything else.&quot;

Would you not expect that value of women in India and China to increase substantially when he have hordes of unmarried bachelors?  I am surprised it has already not happened.

Fortunately, this problem is only this severe in parts of India.  Hopefully the country as whole can stabilize itself.

http://nitawriter.wordpress.com/2006/09/05/indias-sex-ratio-a-sad-state-of-affairs/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Full report here. It is said that already China is facing an aging population as a result of its one-child policy. Will the same thing happen in India? That the two countries with the largest populations should get old before they get rich is a frightening prospect in economic terms, apart from anything else.&#8221;</p>
<p>Would you not expect that value of women in India and China to increase substantially when he have hordes of unmarried bachelors?  I am surprised it has already not happened.</p>
<p>Fortunately, this problem is only this severe in parts of India.  Hopefully the country as whole can stabilize itself.</p>
<p><a href="http://nitawriter.wordpress.com/2006/09/05/indias-sex-ratio-a-sad-state-of-affairs/" rel="nofollow">http://nitawriter.wordpress.com/2006/09/05/indias-sex-ratio-a-sad-state-of-affairs/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gurpreet2:

Sorry about that, a genuine oversight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gurpreet2:</p>
<p>Sorry about that, a genuine oversight.</p>
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		<title>By: Indrak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indrak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not news to me. [Nor is the fact that the watertable, in Panjab of all places, is both plummetting and rendered  unusable from overuse + neglect of preservation systems.]

Should be an easy one for the market to correct, eh?
..on the other hand, along with 70million single unemployed chinese men, there would be a newer version of the suicide bomb developed by then...
On a 3rd limb, basic education correlates with staving off population growth.

@ #2: china already graduates far more students than there are jobs; what&#039;s wrong with  countries of more than a billion people coming down? Even in proto-fascist [wrt castes] india, the lower orders are no longer so quiescent I&#039;m glad to hear - &#039;can&#039;t get the staff, these days..&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not news to me. [Nor is the fact that the watertable, in Panjab of all places, is both plummetting and rendered  unusable from overuse + neglect of preservation systems.]</p>
<p>Should be an easy one for the market to correct, eh?<br />
..on the other hand, along with 70million single unemployed chinese men, there would be a newer version of the suicide bomb developed by then&#8230;<br />
On a 3rd limb, basic education correlates with staving off population growth.</p>
<p>@ #2: china already graduates far more students than there are jobs; what&#8217;s wrong with  countries of more than a billion people coming down? Even in proto-fascist [wrt castes] india, the lower orders are no longer so quiescent I&#8217;m glad to hear &#8211; &#8216;can&#8217;t get the staff, these days..&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup Halima, very true. Though, given the history of partition, surely it must be obvious by now. I was more surprised it wasn&#039; already classified as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup Halima, very true. Though, given the history of partition, surely it must be obvious by now. I was more surprised it wasn&#8217; already classified as such.</p>
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		<title>By: halima</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2087#comment-122196</link>
		<dc:creator>halima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While staying on the subject of gender, it was fantastic to hear news of the landslide action in the UN this week proclaiming the use of rape as an instrument of war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While staying on the subject of gender, it was fantastic to hear news of the landslide action in the UN this week proclaiming the use of rape as an instrument of war.</p>
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		<title>By: halima</title>
		<link>http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/2087#comment-122195</link>
		<dc:creator>halima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I saw a video in 1999 when I used to work with Action Aid on female infanticide - the video was showing a classroom with fewer girls than boys and the question was asked - where are all the girls? As well as child labour/housework accounting for girls not in school - a very large number were absent because &#039;they were killed at birth&#039;. 

It would be ever more interesting to see if both China and India lose their comparative advantage in demographics-  the population  bulge /growing youth population in South Asia is the region&#039;s biggest asset - without it, they may not be able to compete in the war of talent which economists say is where globalisation is at today. Economics isn&#039;t usually a good way to promote gender rights, but seems to me that it is a good enough way to convince governments of South Asia to stamp out infanticide through stringent campaigns on awareness raising than ever before. Otherwise they won&#039;t be able to compete in the global economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I saw a video in 1999 when I used to work with Action Aid on female infanticide &#8211; the video was showing a classroom with fewer girls than boys and the question was asked &#8211; where are all the girls? As well as child labour/housework accounting for girls not in school &#8211; a very large number were absent because &#8216;they were killed at birth&#8217;. </p>
<p>It would be ever more interesting to see if both China and India lose their comparative advantage in demographics-  the population  bulge /growing youth population in South Asia is the region&#8217;s biggest asset &#8211; without it, they may not be able to compete in the war of talent which economists say is where globalisation is at today. Economics isn&#8217;t usually a good way to promote gender rights, but seems to me that it is a good enough way to convince governments of South Asia to stamp out infanticide through stringent campaigns on awareness raising than ever before. Otherwise they won&#8217;t be able to compete in the global economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurpreet2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurpreet2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sickening practice.

However since when does one caste wholly occupy &quot;one area of punjab&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sickening practice.</p>
<p>However since when does one caste wholly occupy &#8220;one area of punjab&#8221;?</p>
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